Noktus.8506 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I think this is one of those skills that would not only make these mounts that much more valuable/worthwhile in getting, but would also provide quality-of-life changes for players who wish to help newcomers/friends get around the maps more quickly. I'm frustrated about not being able to offer a seat to my friend, who's a player of WoW/FF14 (both of which offer multi-seat mounts), as I show him around the world/help him along the way of leveling. It's also just downright fun to be able to do so, nevermind the practicality of it.I specify adding a "2-seater" skill to Skyscales and Griffons, only because they are the 2 mounts that you don't really need to go after, but offer more luxurious and versatile means of travel - having the ability to mount 2 players would further accentuate these values. I look at the brilliant implementation of the diving skill for skimmer - an ability that wasn't exactly necessary, but definitely well received and logical - and cant help but wonder why this trend of expanding pre-existing mounts' abilities and uses wouldn't continue?Finally, I understand that new players can just start PoF and get a raptor and continue on exploring the world with one, but arguing that is just blatantly ignoring the opportunity for fun and new ways of enjoying a game where the community is pretty much the fabric of the game's content to begin with. More interactivity is hardly a bad thing.Gw2 mounts destroy those of competitor mmo's in terms of their gameplay mechanics and world implementation with regards to map design, yet this seems to be a disappointing miss in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a flesh wound.3589 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Allegedly they tried however the player becomes a single entity ‘mountplayer’ and they can’t easily get a second player to sit on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knite.1542 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Good idea mate. I would love to use this feature to kill many unsuspecting players."What's that friend? You need a ride? No worries, hop on my griffon. Why are we going so high? No reason, just trust me. Oh, you needed to go that way? It's okay"DIVE BOMBhehehe, I hope they implement this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunjiKugashira.9754 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I'm not opposed to adding multiseated mounts, but please don't add more seats to the existing ones. Have you ever seen a Charr riding a griffon? Now imagine two Charr riding the same griffon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Only if they figure out how an Asura can carry a Norn. And how a Skyscale can carry another Skyscale.Mounts and players are not two separate models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyncale.1629 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 This could be something for a new mount then. Maybe a wyvern? How about a big caterpillar that you could ride with 5 people, a whole group? I can see a Falkor like Mount (dragonlike) originating from Kantha.https://artstation.com/artwork/Dx3210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noktus.8506 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 @Just a flesh wound.3589 said:Allegedly they tried however the player becomes a single entity ‘mountplayer’ and they can’t easily get a second player to sit on this. Thats interesting, I wondered what sort of obstacles they might face if they ever did try implementing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noktus.8506 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 @BunjiKugashira.9754 said:I'm not opposed to adding multiseated mounts, but please don't add more seats to the existing ones. Have you ever seen a Charr riding a griffon? Now imagine two Charr riding the same griffon.@"Inculpatus cedo.9234" said:Only if they figure out how an Asura can carry a Norn. And how a Skyscale can carry another Skyscale.Mounts and players are not two separate models.Good points, I hadn't realized the fact that mounts and player models are one, makes sense considering different races' mounts vary in size. This should be true even if an entirely new mount was conceptualized with multi-seats in mind, so I now wonder if this system would ever work, given that the skeleton of "mounts" would always be more of a player transformation as opposed to 2 or more separate models interacting with each other.Unless you could somehow "sync" players together in a transformation/animation, similarly to the way players can sync up dancing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @Noktus.8506 said:@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:Allegedly they tried however the player becomes a single entity ‘mountplayer’ and they can’t easily get a second player to sit on this. Thats interesting, I wondered what sort of obstacles they might face if they ever did try implementing thisOne obstacle was that there was no reason for it. It fit no game mechanics and so they redesigned The Behemoth to become The JackalIt’s been requested for years - eg a Dolyak mount and it would be a lot of fun, but it seems unlikelyThe full quote about it is below” And then there’s the Jackal, which lets you make up to two instant teleport dashes and can also access Sand Portals that are found throughout Path of Fire’s zones. But it took a long time to take this role. For a start, it was originally going to be a huge mount that could seat several players at once.“But we after prototyped it, it was going to be fairly hard to make it look convincing with the tools we had, and we were concerned about people parking on vendors with a giant mount so you couldn’t see them,” says Helmich.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve The Cynic.3217 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @"knite.1542" said:Good idea mate. I would love to use this feature to kill many unsuspecting players."What's that friend? You need a ride? No worries, hop on my griffon. Why are we going so high? No reason, just trust me. Oh, you needed to go that way? It's okay"DIVE BOMBhehehe, I hope they implement this.More likely:"What's that friend? You need a ride? No worries, hop on my griffon. Why are we going so high? No reason, just trust me. Oh, you needed to go that way? It's okay"BOND OF FAITHpassenger makes like Gonzo the Great, and plummets. Griffin owner remounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noktus.8506 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 @Randulf.7614 said:@Noktus.8506 said:@Just a flesh wound.3589 said:Allegedly they tried however the player becomes a single entity ‘mountplayer’ and they can’t easily get a second player to sit on this. Thats interesting, I wondered what sort of obstacles they might face if they ever did try implementing thisOne obstacle was that there was no reason for it. It fit no game mechanics and so they redesigned The Behemoth to become The JackalIt’s been requested for years - eg a Dolyak mount and it would be a lot of fun, but it seems unlikelyThe full quote about it is below” And then there’s the Jackal, which lets you make up to two instant teleport dashes and can also access Sand Portals that are found throughout Path of Fire’s zones. But it took a long time to take this role. For a start, it was originally going to be a huge mount that could seat several players at once.“But we after prototyped it, it was going to be fairly hard to make it look convincing with the tools we had, and we were concerned about people parking on vendors with a giant mount so you couldn’t see them,” says Helmich.”Ahh, very insightful. I feel silly not knowing about this beforehand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friday.7864 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I believe this was already considered and they gave up due to technical limitations and/or issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knite.1542 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @Steve The Cynic.3217 said:@"knite.1542" said:Good idea mate. I would love to use this feature to kill many unsuspecting players."What's that friend? You need a ride? No worries, hop on my griffon. Why are we going so high? No reason, just trust me. Oh, you needed to go that way? It's okay"DIVE BOMBhehehe, I hope they implement this.More likely:"What's that friend? You need a ride? No worries, hop on my griffon. Why are we going so high? No reason, just trust me. Oh, you needed to go that way? It's okay"BOND OF FAITHpassenger makes like Gonzo the Great, and plummets. Griffin owner remounts.lol. Gonzto the great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solanum.6983 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @"Tyncale.1629" said:This could be something for a new mount then. Maybe a wyvern? How about a big caterpillar that you could ride with 5 people, a whole group? I can see a Falkor like Mount (dragonlike) originating from Kantha.https://artstation.com/artwork/Dx3210Dragon tour bus, Yes please :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qori.9671 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I don't like the idea because part of getting your own mounts usually involves getting around to places that already having them makes it trivial. We already have mesmers with portal and the portal item people can use to skip a lot of the content. Having Dial-a-Skyscale selling rides to every player doesn't sound like a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echosera.5497 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 It's time we added the turtles into the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @jungsowon.2074 said:It's time we added the turtles into the game.Yep I'm def all for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @"jungsowon.2074" said:It's time we added the turtles into the game.it is already here.https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/go-for-a-swim-with-the-shell-surfer-skimmer-skin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 @Linken.6345 said:@"jungsowon.2074" said:It's time we added the turtles into the game.it is already here.https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/go-for-a-swim-with-the-shell-surfer-skimmer-skin/They are hoping for the Siege Turtle from Factions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hayes.6890 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 A mount where the player characters don't need to be visible could solve some mechanical issues but the size would still be a problem. I personally like the junundu worms from the desolation but lorewise they cannot travel through rocky terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Mounts are not so hard to get, if one doesn't mind breaking the story (that's for another thread - search for it). Other than having their work (play?) done for them, I don't see how it would be fun for the passenger. If anything, perhaps a new basic mount more like the warclaw that new players who have purchased the expansions can acquire? (Ugh, now I', slipping into that other post...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naxos.2503 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Alternative : Instead of it being a mount, have it be a Novelty, and not necessarily an animal. It could just as well be a construct, or a moving chair, in the line of the Inquest chair.Since it's purpose is not clearly established, it actually belongs in the items that are fun but otherwise pointless. Hence, a Novelty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blude.6812 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 This has been discussed before. Mods please merge recycled suggestions that have already been dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayra.7405 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Max load for flying: 1/2 a Charr or Norn1 Human or Sylvari2 AsuraIf overloaded, you have a 50% change of falling to dead and you need to redo the quests to reacquire the mount :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanBB.4268 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 @Dayra.7405 said:Max load for flying: 1/2 a Charr or Norn1 Human or Sylvari2 AsuraIf overloaded, you have a 50% change of falling to dead and you need to redo the quests to reacquire the mount :) So....it'd have to be more like a Transformer then? Two (or more?) Norn combine their mounts into MegaMount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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