SpiderZ.9146 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Currently it can be traited to do almost everything but. Having every utility at single button press would be brainundead friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchoku.8142 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Because shroud is an invulnerability skill, loosely speaking, and Necro is supposed to be susceptible to control effects, Speed of Shadows seems fair enough. There are stun break utility skills for use outside of shroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yasai.3549 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 We....used....to have one......https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Foot_in_the_GraveIt was removed to give Necromancer Shroud a distinct weakness to their Shroud form, which is being weak to CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fueki.4753 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Given the nerfs and straight removals of stun breaks with the February patch, I doubt Shrouds will ever get a stun break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 maybe we can get a flat -4s cd decrease instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Shroud give already more to the necromancer than any other profession mechanism give to their own and, honestly, that's already problematic. Personally I'm against putting haphazardly more thing onto shroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Shroud does not need a stunbreak. CC is the intended counter to shroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderZ.9146 Posted December 29, 2020 Author Share Posted December 29, 2020 I am arguing for PvE/PvP split here. We are supposed to defeat NPC, so the "intended counter" logic should be applied only for the PvP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 @"paShadoWn.5723" said:I am arguing for PvE/PvP split here. We are supposed to defeat NPC, so the "intended counter" logic should be applied only for the PvP.I'd rather have some stability than another stunbreak in PvE. What's problematic in this gamemode isn't to be stuned (you can live with it) but to be pushed/pulled and stunbreak aren't really effective against that.The true issue is that ANet is against mechanical splits between gamemode and what you suggest is a mechanical split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Besides the mechanical split thing, a stunbreak in shroud is even less needed in PvE than in PvP/WvW. That game mode is too simple for any further training wheels.Stability: design wise, reaper as the necro melee spec has 2 stability sources with a baseline duration of 16 seconds in PvE (quite a lot, and onslaught's cooldown reduction even greatly improves this), while core and scourge are meant to go range when in doubt. I am not saying that they are super effective at range. That's a different topic, because just having the option to go range is already an argument against stability in terms of game design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadnir.5038 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 @KrHome.1920 said:Stability: design wise, reaper as the necro melee spec has 2 stability sources with a baseline duration of 16 seconds in PvE (quite a lot, and onslaught's cooldown reduction even greatly improves this), while core and scourge are meant to go range when in doubt. I am not saying that they are super effective at range. That's a different topic, because just having the option to go range is already an argument against stability in terms of game design.Oh, don't get me wrong, the only reason I'd rather get stability than stunbreak in PvE is to ease my way through some jumping puzzles (In metrica for example), and a single stack is kinda not enough for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levijeh.9643 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (sPvP POV) We had it in the past with FitG, stunbreak and 3 seconds stability on entering shroud. It was a strong grandmaster trait. Since then necros use two stunbreaks, wurm and spectral walk. Wurm is a nice stunbreak/port utility. Spectral walk is even better, can work as a double stunbreak and you return to your original point even if there is no valid path, pretty op. So, personally I don't think we need an extra stunbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrHome.1920 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 The stunbreak on Spectral Return has been removed ages ago. Smart opponents will stun you right after you popped Spectral Walk too keep you at range for the case that you try to avoid the burst with a Spectral Return cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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