Flauvious.6195 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 https://i.imgur.com/6HpWWqb.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Have had same thing happen to me, just do what I can and try to make it work. If I drop rating enough I will eventually reach a tier where I am no longer a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Don't mind the masses, play what you like. Unranked is more relaxing in this regard. I like having a rev by my side on my weaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten.4162 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 bahahhahahahahahaahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynz.9437 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Welcome to thief life in s1/2.... which was thanks to revs, ironically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Herald isn't bad though. It's just Renegade that is trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unholy Pillager.3791 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 @Cynz.9437 said:Welcome to thief life in s1/2.... which was thanks to revs, ironically.Heh. And mesmer before that, thanks to thieves. Everybody gets their turn, it seems. Except in PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBoopBop.5403 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 @Crinn.7864 said:Herald isn't bad though. It's just Renegade that is trash.Herald is pretty underwhelming after all the nerfs...Not to mention all the weakness flying around that gimps it's damage. So it's both paper and can only kill paper! Except the other paper class is thief which counters rev now thanks to bullshit 2x 4k essence sap hooray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amityel.5324 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 @BeepBoopBop.5403 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Herald isn't bad though. It's just Renegade that is trash.Herald is pretty underwhelming after all the nerfs...Not to mention all the weakness flying around that gimps it's damage. So it's both paper and can only kill paper! Except the other paper class is thief which counters rev now thanks to kitten 2x 4k essence sap hooray!thief and any condi class ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBoopBop.5403 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 @Amityel.5324 said:@BeepBoopBop.5403 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Herald isn't bad though. It's just Renegade that is trash.Herald is pretty underwhelming after all the nerfs...Not to mention all the weakness flying around that gimps it's damage. So it's both paper and can only kill paper! Except the other paper class is thief which counters rev now thanks to kitten 2x 4k essence sap hooray!thief and any condi class ;-)Haha and the funny thing is if you happen to be able to dodge or block EVERYTHING (you have to or you're dead) and do enough damage to win, revenant suddenly OP :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 @MyPuppy.8970 said:Don't mind the masses, play what you like. Unranked is more relaxing in this regard. I like having a rev by my side on my weaver.What's funny is this was in unranked. I play guardian in ranked but in the off-season I like to try new things and have fun but people still wanna try hard with their scourges and spellbreakers. Imagine how salty he would be if he knew I was also power rev heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 @Crinn.7864 said:Herald isn't bad though. It's just Renegade that is trash.The problem is unless you are demon condi build, or use ventari (and be completely useless otherwise), herald has literally 0 condi cleanse. You're supposedly "weak to heavy condi pressure", but you can't be weak to a thing 90% of people are using, this just means you're weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halikus.1406 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 It's sad but true. I made it into plat again with rev this season but it was 10x as hard with all the mess that is the new specs. I expected the new "playstyle" anet promissed with renegade but I'm still looking for it with no sucess :/ .What bother me the most is how this community never change when it comes to balance, instead of trying to learn how to counter class X they go straight to the forums asking for nerfs and anet grant it 60% of the time.Rev is still full of things that require fixes like UA for instance, poor synergy between specs, etc. It really feels like an unfinished class. I love rev but this situation is really awful cuz every class seems to be a counter to us these days. :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossun.2046 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Inb4 OP was the one who said that to a rev in his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ketsu.4569 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 ;____; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten.4162 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Even Herald is pretty useless if it fights against someone with condis. It's pretty bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Revenant is pure trash now.It hits as hard as paladin amulet revenant pre nerfs. Makes me bitter and angry that despite all this shit every single class got somewhat viable new elite spec and I am stuck with absolutely irrelevant Renegade and 12 core utility skills. Anet simply never finished this class and now done with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeepBoopBop.5403 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 @"Vasdamas Anklast.1607" said:Revenant is pure trash now.It hits as hard as paladin amulet revenant pre nerfs.There are still people out there that think revenant does too much damage for how much "defense" it has (2 blocks and 1 defensive evade...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shirlias.8104 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 So, ventari is not viable anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 @Shirlias.8104 said:So, ventari is not viable anymore?Not really, it had two strengths: the ability to not die in any 1v1's and the ability to decap most things quickly with aoe knock back spam and both things were effectively neutered. It was basically a spellbreaker that pushed far and knocked people off points instead of just killing them. The knock back effective cool down was nearly tripled dramatically lowering its decap capabilities and now scourges can easily kill it 1v1 which basically every team has at least 1. It has never really been competitive in its intended role of heal support because the tablet is too slow and clunky for the small area it affects to keep up with constantly moving teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasdamas Anklast.1607 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 @BeepBoopBop.5403 said:@"Vasdamas Anklast.1607" said:Revenant is pure trash now.It hits as hard as paladin amulet revenant pre nerfs.There are still people out there that think revenant does too much damage for how much "defense" it has (2 blocks and 1 defensive evade...)1 defensive evade which you cant use 50% of the time along with zero condi cleanse. Those haters come from WvW probably where it still does some decent damage (just like war) in FULL zerk gear. Can't do much shit against new specs even there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swagg.9236 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Revenant should never have been added to the game. This isn't a callout against people who play it. This is a statement about how much bloat the game had long, long before the first expac was even on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinn.7864 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 @Flauvious.6195 said:@Crinn.7864 said:Herald isn't bad though. It's just Renegade that is trash.The problem is unless you are demon condi build, or use ventari (and be completely useless otherwise), herald has literally 0 condi cleanse. You're supposedly "weak to heavy condi pressure", but you can't be weak to a thing 90% of people are using, this just means you're weak.Except only Necromancer and Mesmer are the only two classes that run condi right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I disagree. The PoF specs didn't change too much the landscape for power Herald. Some of the new ones are weaker than the HoT specs, and power Herald is still one of the strongest PvP builds in the game, albeit hard to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I find revenant to be a very binary class. It's damage and rotation has always been highly oppressive but they have real hard counters.Just a poorly designed class overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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