Teratus.2859 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 @Leo G.4501 said:Some points of contention I have with your opinion:@Teratus.2859 said:I get it.. I'd like a Tengu or a Kodan or a Dwarf as well and I'd love for your race to actually matter and play some role in the game outside of defining your appearance and voice, but it's not happening.On one hand, you understand that race is mostly (if not completely) cosmetic. Ok, so what difference is there between asking for a new race and more skins? If it doesn't actually matter, why add any cosmetics at all? Adding new skins doesn't completely break the established lore of the game like adding new playable races would.The world was built the way it was to tell a story and that story dictated that certain races would be absent almost entirely from playing major roles like the 5 playable races do.You can't retcon 8 years of ongoing world building just because some people want a Tengu or Dwarf Commander.. it's such an unrealistic request and such a massive amount of work would be needed to implement something like that as well which could just as easily be replicated with a tonic item.New home hubs, new personal story missions, new or modified starter zones, new voice acting for 8 years worth of content, fine tuning every single existing armour and outfit skin across 2 genders and 3 armour classes for every new race added to ensure there are no major clipping problems and that's just the beginning.You don't have to be a developer nor even have a decent grasp on game design to have some idea of how much work would need to go into adding a new race like that.For the most part it's common sense to get an idea of the kind of workload something like this would require.. and like I said, the end result of doing all of that work is nothing more than a cosmetic benefit.. something you could just as easily get from a tonic toy.If your character's race actually mattered from a gameplay perspective (Which I do support they should) then there would be a hell of a lot more justification for adding new races to the game, but they don't matter like that and they are almost entirely cosmetic so the best option is to just give people a Tengu, Dwarf, Largos etc combat tonic.There's no point wasting months of developer's time screwing up the integrity of 8 years of game lore just so people can have a new cosmetic.. that time and effort is far better spent on other things like making new content or improving some areas of the existing game that could really use the time and attention.. hell even putting more shiny junk in the gem store is a better use of time and resources than doing this would be.. >.<@Teratus.2859 said:The only way I can see new races being added without completely screwing up the game is if they are added after! the Elder Dragon storyline is finished and we move on to a whole new isolated sequel storyline.. a GW2.2 if you will.That would mean the new races would not have access to the personal story nor any of the existing storyline up to this point, though they would be able to play on all existing maps etc.They would start their fresh new stories chronologically after the Elder Dragons have been dealt with.. and these new characters would not be "The Commander" either, though they might fill the role as a successor eventually.That's the only way this kind of thing will work right imo.There are many different avenues one could take. There is certainly more than just one. At this point, however, it's closer to a guessing game whether they add a new race or not, much less what probable ways do they have to implement it.Technically yes.. though i'd say the odds are definitely lopsided.It's certainly not a 50/50 and if Anet do decide this is something worth exploring it will come as a surprise to a lot of people, even those who want new races as many of them from what i've seen over the years also do consider new races to be a long shot.Also, curious: how many players are out there replaying/grinding the old story instances after they already beat them on their 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 12th alt? I'm sure there are some out there but I'm mostly wondering if a new race were added but could only play up to a certain point in the "Personal Story", how many would be disappointed compared to the amount estimated by forum posters trying to shoehorn their limited perspective on the matter?Logically it makes sense to do it as I suggested and add new races as a new generation of character's that start their journey after the Elder Dragon story ends.It's a sensible solution to avoid all of the conflicting lore problems, plus it gives both new and old players a new starting point so they can jump right into newer content with a fresh character without feeling like they have to play through the last 8 years of story content to "catch up".Anet has done this exact same thing before in Gw1 as well when they opted to make stand alone games instead of expansions.Both Factions and Nightfall were entirely self contained stories that you could start in as a new character and play through completely without needing to have played the previous release.So it is a tried and tested solution which could easily be applied to this problem in Gw2 as well.Personally I believe it's possibly the best way for Anet to give most people a win on this topic.. or at least a good compromise.By all means feel free to disagree though that's fine, but enough with the passive aggressive jabs.. no need for that crap. 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