Low lvl map completion e.g doing key run

[GolgoXIII.8536]

My question is have they changed the whole chance or even removed it entirely when doing the starter map now?. As when I have been doing the completion of the map so I am the correct lvl to start doing the introduction quest for the past 8 or so weeks I have only ever gotten a transmutation stone. This isn't a complaint I am just wondering if Anet have changed this as this is the longest time I have gone not getting a key usually if I was lucky I would get one every 3 weeks or so but now I haven't gotten one for some time I was wondering if they have changed it so you just don't get one period now until later in the whole lvling process of your character.

[Randulf.7614]

If they have, it's not an advertised change. The only known BL key change happened about 5-6 years ago when they changed it to 1 key a week from the level 10 personal story.

I went years without getting a key from any map completion. As far as I know, it was just bad luck though

[Linken.6345]

Got a key 2 days ago map completing a path of fire map so they do still drop.

[Dawdler.8521]

The level 10 story still gives a guaranteed key (takes about 15m to do once a week) and map completion keys are totally random.

[mercury ranique.2170]

@"GolgoXIII.8536" said:My question is have they changed the whole chance or even removed it entirely when doing the starter map now?. As when I have been doing the completion of the map so I am the correct lvl to start doing the introduction quest for the past 8 or so weeks I have only ever gotten a transmutation stone. This isn't a complaint I am just wondering if Anet have changed this as this is the longest time I have gone not getting a key usually if I was lucky I would get one every 3 weeks or so but now I haven't gotten one for some time I was wondering if they have changed it so you just don't get one period now until later in the whole lvling process of your character.

There is a difference between the level 10 story award and the map completion award. Allthough you can combine them they are two different things with different mechanics.

1: When you finish the level 10 story line you recieve a key. This is limited to once per week per account.2: When you complete a map (excluded special maps like cities) by doing all hearts, wp's, poi's, vistas and HP's you have about 25% change of recieving a key. This is not limited, but truly based on chance.

When the first is not happening and you qualify for the once per week key, it is clearly a bug. Even if it was intended it should have been in the update notes.When the key is removed from doing maps or the droprate is decreased, it can be done as a undocumented chance as loottables are not public. The 1/4 number comes from drop research done by players https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_completion/Drop_Rate

It sounds like you complain about the map completion reward. A big mistake with chance calculation is that a droprate of 1/4 you should have 2 keys when you complete 8 maps. This is not the case. You chance are always the same. So when doing the first map you have a 1/4 chance of getting a key. If you do the second map, this chance is not increased. So you can be lucky and get more keys and unlucky and recieve less. In statistics, when reaching very big numbers you should see a pattern. When you look at the map completion droprate on the wiki, you see that a number of 1600 map completions numbers is not enough to give a conclusive image. It is an educated guess it is 1/4

tl;dr: 8 is not a number of map completions to draw conclusions from

[Danikat.8537]

Map completion does still award keys, but it's more likely you'll get a transmutation charge. The Wiki drop rate research says there's a 28% chance to get a key. (And the most recent data was added to that table yesterday.)