My pvp bunkerish with collateral support build, herald...

[Crab Fear.1624]

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAYx7ldQKMHyi1QXsHCj9RisAqglyTarD-z5AfG9KFSZFIiB

I put a lot of thought into it, but that probably isnt saying much.

I actually do really well with it, and I bet if it is actually good, a really good player will be godly.

I choose retribution because increased endurance, and it is pretty good in overall damage negation, versed in stone for the condi redux because I use dwarf.

Salvation because I am being a support, get some vigor, and some ability to tank.

Herald, elders respite mixed with dwayna makes regen 40% effective, take the gm and I have netting I think about 600 hps overall per ally being passive with facet of light on.

good damage reduction, pretty good condi clear, good passive healing, good actgive healing and damage reduction, tanky.

you can still push out some damage, and in a battle of attrition, not many will prevail. (lb for lb)

I have played it against every meta, and they can not kill me solo, doesnt matter damage type, and I am garbage.

Maybe it is trash, maybe I am delusional, but I wanted to share, in case it is actually good.

[Crab Fear.1624]

Also, I choose stagnation sigils, so when I swap weaps, it makes it easier to kite lol

[Stand The Wall.6987]

huh, i never considered a rev support build without ventari. interest.

[FrownyClown.8402]

Correct me if I am wrong but outgoing healing also affects regen. If that is the case I feel this would provide much more heals with the cost of 15% damage reduction to yourself.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PmwAYx7ldQKMHyi1QXsHCj9RisAqglyTerD-z5AfG9KFSZF4rB

The condi removal for allies is also a bit on the weaker end for a support. My other concern is the cost of upkeep of staying in glint since that will benefit allies the most. I wouldn't pick this up over other support options in high ranked play unless you are playing vs a power heavy comp. It also seems much more like a bunker with some support healing. The build doesn't seem bad at all. Just not optimized for conquest since others support are better or can compete for a node.

[RedAvenged.5217]

These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

[Gamble.4580]

I would say it’s a more bunker build this that peels ok. A support build needs to have instant reaction I.e a instant heal combo or reset combo to team or team mate.

[Crab Fear.1624]

@Gamble.4580 said:I would say it’s a more bunker build this that peels ok. A support build needs to have instant reaction I.e a instant heal combo or reset combo to team or team mate.

Yeah, it's more bunker with collateral support.

At least 7k burns are only 3.5k when I pop the dwarf elite....lol

[Crab Fear.1624]

@RedAvenged.5217 said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

[ollbirtan.2915]

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@RedAvenged.5217 said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

[Crab Fear.1624]

@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@"RedAvenged.5217" said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

just a meme....

[Shao.7236]

I did this stuff before in PvE, it can be somewhat good but in PvP it gets a nono from me.

Healing Power on Revenant is not worth having because it scales badly besides Ventari skills. It also wastes a lot of stats without Ventari while the same is true for Salvation, if you're not using Ventari, you're wasting an entire specialization for 2 traits at best when you could Rapid Flow heals, Glaring Resolve to protect stunbreak investments with heals and have Sotm Barrier with Weakness, not depending from skills or passives but the flow of the profession instead.

At least use Marshal or Sage for Condition damage that is more meaningful than the weak Power.

Sure, you get like 500 tick when regeneration is up and at max boons it's like 2k barrier, but you're not gonna be like that forever, it's a very messy inconsistent amount of sustain.

Tanking on Berserker stats is just as possible while not losing the obvious damage. Because unless you're willingly taking damage, you don't need that much healing all at once because Dwarf tanking is the best tanking in the game and you can combine all of that with Herald protection as well as Infuse Light.

Planar Protection is a bad pick if using Herald because it applies Weakness in the radius which reduces damage from CQC healing and there's a high chance you'll be denying range damage that may benefit Infuse Light and if not using it right away you'll be in the dilema of wanting to keep from having it activated which could save your life and prevent passive Regen.

Eye for an Eye has no real benefit unlike Dwarf Battle Training that gives you just as much damage based on Weakness which is more sustain too.

Also those sigils are pretty goofy, Escape is what you'd want on Staff to increase chances of proper clear with the skills that follow it, Cleansing added will guaranteed a damaging condition to be removed.

Have Intelligence and Energy on S/Sh so every legend swap is a burst of damage and increased sustain.

The best rune for what you're trying to achieve would be Hoelbrak or Melandru depending on what you care the most. However with Hoelbrak you can stack up to 90% condition damage reduction which is near immunity.

Finally to add up since I recommend against Menders, Elder Respite would have to be switched, Core Value doesn't say it but Stability from Jalis is also increased by the stack and the in time it lasts to 6 seconds instead of 4. You can also be clever with Glint and extend Stability with Retaliation for just as long. Also to point out Elevated Compensation only affects allies, not the player itself.

The general idea is that even if you're using all the support stuff of Revenant in the vain of healing others and yourself, there's too much stuff going on for it to actually be valuable where as Rite of the Great dwarf is extremely powerful to have all alone and it can carry pretty much any stats by itself.

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@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@"RedAvenged.5217" said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

Serious question - what do people actually mean when they say a build is a "meme"? Just saying it's a joke, a gimmick build that only does one thing? Or is it just shorthand for "any build I find annoying to play against?" Something else?

[ProverbsofHell.2307]

@"Kunzaito.8169" said:

@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@"RedAvenged.5217" said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

Serious question - what do people actually mean when they say a build is a "meme"? Just saying it's a joke, a gimmick build that only does one thing? Or is it just shorthand for "any build I find annoying to play against?" Something else?

The former

[HokenPWNZ.7628]

Meme? Thats a meme: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PawAgqZlZwEZgsOWJW2TXNbA-z5AfCCdAI call that build "Vampire"Kappa(Actually i play this build =)=) =)=) =)=) =)=) =)=) =)=) =)=) g3)

[ollbirtan.2915]

@"Kunzaito.8169" said:

@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@"RedAvenged.5217" said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

Serious question - what do people actually mean when they say a build is a "meme"? Just saying it's a joke, a gimmick build that only does one thing? Or is it just shorthand for "any build I find annoying to play against?" Something else?

To me, any 'one-trick pony' build is a meme build. Trapper DH is in this category, and is easily countered with a bit of brain power. Also, fun fact, meta battle has some meme builds as 'meta' because everyone and their grandmother are playing them. Doesn't mean the build is super effective in ATs / any sort of organised pvp outside your average gold solo queue.

[Ragazm.6018]

Yeh, but who cares about AT or some organized pvp? Solo queue is where most peoples live.You can have "brain power" as much as you want, but you will be burned from AA and capture point still be main :DOf course it's exaggerated, but it works most of time, so its MEETAAA!! :D

[Master Ketsu.4569]

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@"RedAvenged.5217" said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

just a meme....

There really is no difference between the "Great" and "Meta" category on metabattle. It's just what the curator personally feels, which hasn't been accurate for the last year or so of balance patches.

[lare.5129]

so you put build but not put some videos? looks bored for me.

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

@"Kunzaito.8169" said:

@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Crab Fear.1624 said:

@"RedAvenged.5217" said:These types of post should be in sub forums unless your actually memeing

It may not be a meme, it may be a meme.

When sephi posted the stealth dragon hunter a long time ago, people thought it was a meme too.

Lol

But trapper DH is still a meme - shrug-

Serious question - what do people actually mean when they say a build is a "meme"? Just saying it's a joke, a gimmick build that only does one thing? Or is it just shorthand for "any build I find annoying to play against?" Something else?

95% of them don't even know what a "meme" actually is.

Go GOOGLE: Richard Dawkins The Selfish Gene - Dawkins Meme Definition

How the term "meme" is changing and being used to describe things is intrinsically a perfect example of how memetics actually work, as describe by Dawkins.

[Kuma.1503]

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