Prediction: The New Warrior sub-class will be Staff Monk

[Yerlock.4678]

I'm making this prediction now because I want this to happen lol. Imagine a Monk themed Wu Kong inspired staff Warrior. Lots of evades and crazy animations with mobility would be sick.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

@gmmg.9210 said:I'm making this prediction now because I want this to happen lol. Imagine a Monk themed Wu Kong inspired staff Warrior. Lots of evades and crazy animations with mobility would be sick.

Please no. There is Daredevil for that. That would be a straight copy of another e-spec's playstyle.

[Dadnir.5038]

My own prediction:

Warrior next e-spec won't have any change to it's burst/adrenaline mechanic but to it's weaponswap mechanic. One of the weaponset will be replaced by a banner that will have spear like animation/skills. Skin and burst of the banner will change based on the GM trait taken (Base burst will deal damage around you and heal allies, GM1 will make banner burst's add Barrier, GM2 will make it add Unblockable, GM3 will make it add Alacrity). Swaping weapon to banner will grant regen (5s) to the warrior and up to 9 other allies / 4 in WvW (2nd minor trait), the warrior will have increased concentration while wielding a banner (3rd minor trait).

sPvP/WvW will hate this e-spec because it will be to tanky.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

@Dadnir.5038 said:My own prediction:

Warrior next e-spec won't have any change to it's burst/adrenaline mechanic but to it's weaponswap mechanic. One of the weaponset will be replaced by a banner that will have spear like animation/skills. Skin and burst of the banner will change based on the GM trait taken (Base burst will deal damage around you and heal allies, GM1 will make banner burst's add Barrier, GM2 will make it add Unblockable, GM3 will make it add Alacrity). Swaping weapon to banner will grant regen (5s) to the warrior and up to 9 other allies / 4 in WvW (2nd minor trait), the warrior will have increased concentration while wielding a banner (3rd minor trait).

sPvP/WvW will hate this e-spec because it will be to tanky.

That is actually a pretty neat idea. Spear people get their spear, supports get their support. But what actual weapon would be gained since E-Specs grant new weapons? Also I'm picturing here an actual long spear with a Pennon attached to it and not the current banner skins.

[Sobx.1758]

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@gmmg.9210 said:I'm making this prediction now because I want this to happen lol. Imagine a Monk themed Wu Kong inspired staff Warrior. Lots of evades and crazy animations with mobility would be sick.

Please no. There is Daredevil for that. That would be a straight copy of another e-spec's playstyle.

True, that would be disappointing

[Dadnir.5038]

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@"Dadnir.5038" said:My own prediction:

Warrior next e-spec won't have any change to it's burst/adrenaline mechanic but to it's weaponswap mechanic. One of the weaponset will be replaced by a banner that will have spear like animation/skills. Skin and burst of the banner will change based on the GM trait taken (Base burst will deal damage around you and heal allies, GM1 will make banner burst's add Barrier, GM2 will make it add Unblockable, GM3 will make it add Alacrity). Swaping weapon to banner will grant regen (5s) to the warrior and up to 9 other allies / 4 in WvW (2nd minor trait), the warrior will have increased concentration while wielding a banner (3rd minor trait).

sPvP/WvW will hate this e-spec because it will be to tanky.

That is actually a pretty neat idea. Spear people get their spear, supports get their support. But what actual weapon would be gained since E-Specs grant new weapons? Also I'm picturing here an actual long spear with a Pennon attached to it and not the current banner skins.

I thought of a main hand or off hand pistol. Mainly because it's a weapon that got the "officer" vibe and a standard bearer got the military vibe itself..

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

@Dadnir.5038 said:

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@Dadnir.5038 said:My own prediction:

Warrior next e-spec won't have any change to it's burst/adrenaline mechanic but to it's weaponswap mechanic. One of the weaponset will be replaced by a banner that will have spear like animation/skills. Skin and burst of the banner will change based on the GM trait taken (Base burst will deal damage around you and heal allies, GM1 will make banner burst's add Barrier, GM2 will make it add Unblockable, GM3 will make it add Alacrity). Swaping weapon to banner will grant regen (5s) to the warrior and up to 9 other allies / 4 in WvW (2nd minor trait), the warrior will have increased concentration while wielding a banner (3rd minor trait).

sPvP/WvW will hate this e-spec because it will be to tanky.

That is actually a pretty neat idea. Spear people get their spear, supports get their support. But what actual weapon would be gained since E-Specs grant new weapons? Also I'm picturing here an actual long spear with a Pennon attached to it and not the current banner skins.

I thought of a main hand or off hand pistol. Mainly because it's a weapon that got the "officer" vibe and a standard bearer got the military vibe itself..

Gotta be both hands. It's the warrior thing.

[Dadnir.5038]

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@"Dadnir.5038" said:I thought of a main hand or off hand pistol. Mainly because it's a weapon that got the "officer" vibe and a standard bearer got the military vibe itself..

Gotta be both hands. It's the warrior thing.

I'm not sure that's "definite". After all, there is shield and torch.

[Vancho.8750]

Wish it is something like this

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

@Dadnir.5038 said:

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@Dadnir.5038 said:I thought of a main hand or off hand pistol. Mainly because it's a weapon that got the "officer" vibe and a standard bearer got the military vibe itself..

Gotta be both hands. It's the warrior thing.

I'm not sure that's "definite". After all, there is shield and torch.

But those aren't MH weapons. Warriors can use MH weapons in both hands.

[Grand Marshal.4098]

I'd personally love for some form of capable duelist warrior with great support capabilities at the same time to cater to both groups.

A warrior with 2 new burst mechanics up to tier 3. Namely f1 for normal burst, f2 for OH burst (and given how offhand works probably supportive bursts, like placing down fields or pulsing some boon in an area depending on the weapon) and an f3 which would change the adrenaline into a different resource (maybe different color for the bar) which gradually increase and give better support or offensive capabilities according to the traits the warrior has chosen.

Just some random ideas, weapon can be anything, skills as well. Maybe for this idea glyphs work well, but I've always thought of a spectral skills "dark theme" warrior to be an interesting idea too.

I try not to support either Staff or Pistols , because the one feels and sounds like DD and the other as a mix of core engi and core thief. And there is no tell if Anet will be successful with implementing the new weapon anyway and we may end up with Torch 2.0, a basically subpar weapon for competetive.

EDIT: fixing Core would be the step 1, before any espec and warrior mains have made all sort of good ideas in the Warrior Changes Omnibus Thread already.

[Telgum.6071]

We already have a monk specialization with a staff, lots of evades and crazy animations with mobility.

Something new would be better.

[Kodama.6453]

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@Dadnir.5038 said:

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@Dadnir.5038 said:I thought of a main hand or off hand pistol. Mainly because it's a weapon that got the "officer" vibe and a standard bearer got the military vibe itself..

Gotta be both hands. It's the warrior thing.

I'm not sure that's "definite". After all, there is shield and torch.

But those aren't MH weapons. Warriors can use MH weapons in both hands.

The question is if Anet really considers this to be a hard rule or not.Has there ever been the definite statement that this will always apply to warrior? And by that I mean a direct quote from one of the devs.

[Dadnir.5038]

@Kodama.6453 said:

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@"Dadnir.5038" said:I'm not sure that's "definite". After all, there is shield and torch.

But those aren't MH weapons. Warriors can use MH weapons in both hands.

The question is if Anet really considers this to be a hard rule or not.Has there ever been the definite statement that this will always apply to warrior? And by that I mean a direct quote from one of the devs.

Exactly, that's what I meant. I don't take spellbreaker giving 2 daggers as an absolute proof that warrior's futur e-specs will follow this patern that a part of the warrior community seem to take as a definite rule.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

@Dadnir.5038 said:

@Kodama.6453 said:

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@Dadnir.5038 said:I'm not sure that's "definite". After all, there is shield and torch.

But those aren't MH weapons. Warriors can use MH weapons in both hands.

The question is if Anet really considers this to be a hard rule or not.Has there ever been the definite statement that this will always apply to warrior? And by that I mean a direct quote from one of the devs.

Exactly, that's what I meant. I don't take spellbreaker giving 2 daggers as an absolute proof that warrior's futur e-specs will follow this patern that a part of the warrior community seem to take as a definite rule.

Its more to do with them being masters of weaponry and having greater access to weapons than any other profession, which is what they are billed as. That said, if warrior does get Pistol, it will either be just the MH or both MH and OH, but not OH only. Warrior needs a 1H range option, but it also needs something to potentially replace Shield in competitive play.

[Dadnir.5038]

@Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

@"Dadnir.5038" said:Exactly, that's what I meant. I don't take spellbreaker giving 2 daggers as an absolute proof that warrior's futur e-specs will follow this patern that a part of the warrior community seem to take as a definite rule.

Its more to do with them being masters of weaponry and having greater access to weapons than any other profession, which is what they are billed as. That said, if warrior does get Pistol, it will either be just the MH or both MH and OH, but not OH only. Warrior needs a 1H range option, but it also needs something to potentially replace Shield in competitive play.

Beting that an OH will potentially replace Shield in competitive play is a bit unreasonable. If Mace off hand, Sword off-hand and even Axe off hand can't manage to do it, why would another off hand manage to do it? Shield is a defensive weapon, a pistol OH wouldn't really strike me as a defensive weapon, (maybe it might be more realistic if I had suggested a focus)? I mean, if Pistol OH were to compete against another core weapon it would probably be against either sword or mace that both have ranged option.

More importantly, the goal behind the rough draft that I gave is not to have a "gunslinger" but a "support" that mainly think of the best way to use it's banner. The pistol is meant to be "flavor" more than a mastered weapon.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

I can see on OH pistol having an evade skill and an interrupt on it. If the evade had reasonable damage then it would very easily compete with shield.