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2 minutes ago, Lithril Ashwalker.6230 said:

This lore is a cliffhanger for years and last we heard it was being repaired. I want a dev to touch base on this! 

Malyck and Laranthir play with it in the realm of the Discarded with Zojja watching them while sipping her tea.

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I imagine that Magdaer may return alongside King Adelbern's crown and the Krytan royal locket once/if we continue the idea of ending the Foefire curse with Rytlock's Sohothin, Magdaer (preferably wielded by Logan as he's long overdue the sword), and the Heir of Ascalon wearing the crown.

 

Time will tell whether the Heir ends up being someone from Krytan royalty such as Jennah as Logan speculated in "Return to Camp Resolve"  or even from King Jadon's lost legitimate family (as devs stated that the fate of Jadon and his family, apart from his daughter born out of wedlock Salma who founded the Salmaic dynasty, has not yet been explored); possibly the other unnamed heir to the Krytan throne that Agent Ihan hints at in "The Sad Tale of the 'Ravenous'"; some Ascalonian descended from kings like Duke Wade Samuelsson of Ebonhawke who was sadly not referenced as the commander of the Ebon Vanguard during "Champions" and did not send us mail during "Champions", having some new unseen captain named Thaddeus Soren contact us instead; or even some secret heir of Barradin or Adelbern (as the GW1 manual mentions that Rurik was Adelbern's firstborn son, which might suggest other children even though Logan thinks that the Ascalon line is dead in the Camp Resolve instance).

 

There are still some unresolved issues on the charr story that GW2 might explore in the future, and that way the writers could bring back Adelbern and the Heir of Ascalon subplot.

 

After all, we witnessed various United Legions charr throughout Drizzlewood Coast (note that these were charr who didn't defect to the Dominion) treating Seraph badly and even with some barely veiled hostility in ambient dialogue in claimed camps while stating that the alliance between humans and charr is only temporary. If even some of our allied charr who didn't join Bangar's supremacist faction think so badly of humans, it wouldn't surprise me if the story explored the dealings of the popular Iron Tribune Fume Brighteye who is said to despise humans (but not necessarily other races) due to her sad backstory involving her sire and who might eventually challenge current Imperator Mia Kindleshot's politics in some manner while promoting the idea that Fume should become imperator instead.

 

We also got Malice stating in "Revels & Rivals" that the Separatists are having a resurgence, and it should've only gotten worse once news broke out about Bangar's treaty-violating insurrection and how several charr warbands from all legions joined his supremacist faction and slaughtered the human population on Drizzlewood Coast. Even if Logan, Jennah and Kasmeer did their best to keep the more volatile human political factions in line in Divinity's Reach and Ebonhawke and even if Crecia's actions during the destroyer invasion of Ebonhawke warmed up some Ascalonians to the current Blood Legion regime, I wouldn't be surprised if the Separatists continue gaining support and funding (sadly we don't yet know who is funding them after Caudecus and White Mantle's demise to enable their resurgence) and how they could become a notable threat in the future with legitimate grievances (if Bangar violated a treaty he signed, who knows if Crecia will do the same if she decides, in humans' minds, to try to become Khan-Ur; especially with Smodur dead and Mia assuming the Iron throne, humans can't know for certain what Mia's stances on Smodur's treaty are either even if we as players know that Mia is fully pro-treaty).

 

We still don't know why the charr easily accepted Efram, Crecia and Mia as imperators if the charr are supposed to follow the rule from charr blog posts such as "The Legions of the Charr" and "The Ecology of the Charr" that only confirmed descendants of the Khan-Ur can become imperators. Perhaps the implication is that Crecia and Efram are related to some high-ranking charr bloodline (we never got to meet Crecia's evil Flame shaman sire after all) that allows them to lead their respective legions undisputed, while Mia could be revealed as Smodur's daughter for all we know, unless the charr have abolished this ancient ascendancy rule due to their recent political upheavals. Fume could be using this argument against Mia, though, by either claiming Mia is not a legitimate descendant and thus unfit to wield the Iron crown, or alternatively Fume might belittle Mia's supposed legitimacy (as either Smodur's daughter or as a descendant of Khan-Ur) by stating that relying on old bloodlines didn't work so well for charr (look at Bangar and Smodur) and, just like the seemingly unrelated Efram and Crecia ascended to the throne, Iron should also embrace new leadership with a new, fresh bloodline that Fume represents. I'm sure Fume would be a clever enough populist politician (she's confirmed to be among the top three most popular Iron tribunes alongside Mia and Bhuer Goreblade) to twist such clauses to promote her agenda and sway charr masses behind her while being popular enough that Mia can't simply remove Fume from tribune office without causing more upheavals in the already weakened and divided Iron Legion.

 

Finally, the deaths of Kralkatorrik and Jormag/Primordus sent a lot of ambient magic into the environment. Even if most of the magic from "Dragonstorm" just went south rather than dispersing through the ley lines somehow (as opposed to how magic spread out after Kralk and Mordremoth's deaths), Adelbern and his Foefire ghosts were directly on the ley line going through Ascalon, so they should've received a magical power boost from the deaths of Zhaitan, Mordy and Kralk at minimum (including some of Balthazar's latent magic which might allow Adelbern some Mists traversal powers just like Aurene, Kralk, Jormag and presumably Primordus and deep sea dragon also got Mists traveling powers from Balthy's demise). We've seen ghosts become empowered and leycrazed as seen with Elonian bounties, so the Foefire ghosts should likewise become enraged and far more dangerous than before. Adelbern's madness and fury might only increase, and this time he'd finally have enough power to make his threat real and begin a truly massive invasion of the surface world and add all the living to his undead army. Perhaps the Sorcerer-King could even utilize the Golem's Eye, a "self-replicating ambient thaumaturgic construct" which uses any available material (stones, bones etc.) to create a "golem" body for itself and assaults anything its wielder deems a threat, as his doomsday weapon as that thing is nigh indestructible, as he did swear in Ghosts of Ascalon to wield the Eye's power one day. It could make for a great major world boss in Plains of Ashford or even a harrowing story instance/DRM/strike encounter.

 

All of these plots (empowered Adelbern's revenge, potential return of ghost Rurik and Althea to talk some sense into Adelbern and Barradin, Separatist resurgence and growing human unease about the changing charr regime, Mia vs. Fume charr politics and the potential charr ambitions for Khan-Ur, and the Heir of Ascalon and Forefire ending plot with Magdaer, Sohothin and the crown) could be tied together for a truly intriguing storyline in Ascalon and perhaps settle the dispute between humans and charr once and for all while maybe even ending the Khan-Ur ambitions and abolishing the imperator rank for an Ascalon that might become a joint human/charr Republic of Ascalon with senate representatives from all charr and human social ranks (so not just tribunes and human nobility, but plebeians and gladiums get representation too!) for a truly united and democratic coexistence (as a reverse historical development of Roman Republic becoming the Roman Empire). 🙂

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15 hours ago, anninke.7469 said:

Malyck and Laranthir play with it in the realm of the Discarded with Zojja watching them while sipping her tea.

 

Ah yes. I believe they call that place The Dominion of Winds.

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Likely amongst many open plot threads which will never get resolved.  It's not like something like this is unexpected as seeding these open plot threads provides options later down the road if you don't have a clear idea what you're going to do with the story at the time.

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Considering humans are my favorite faction and Ascalon regaining their former glory would be my absolute fanboy-dream, I am quite happy current Anet not touching this story-thread. I would only end in tears and disappointment.

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