Damage in WvW

[Stormtrooper.5976]

Haven't played for years, why it feels like everyone's burst is so big compared to mine?

[saerni.2584]

What are you running build wise?

[Stormtrooper.5976]

1 minute ago, saerni.2584 said:

What are you running build wise?

D/P Daredevil, Marauder plus a little Berserker

[saerni.2584]

Ok, and what are you comparing your damage to? Other thief builds or other professions?

[Stormtrooper.5976]

1 minute ago, saerni.2584 said:

Ok, and what are you comparing your damage to? Other thief builds or other professions?

Other professions

[saerni.2584]

Ok, so my explanation is a combo of:

 

Dagger main hand was nerfed a lot compared to other thief options. Dagger can still hit hard but it takes more effort. Also, everyone was nerfed so you will find your damage probably dropped a fair bit while others have adapted to increase their damage back up to the point where they are comfortable. 
 

Other professions, although that's an overly broad category, can still achieve one shots against glassy targets (although much less damage since the universal damage nerf for all professions). 
 

Overall, I'd say it's probably about 75% nerfs to Dagger and 25% the universal damage nerf patch.

[Stormtrooper.5976]

5 minutes ago, saerni.2584 said:

Ok, so my explanation is a combo of:

 

Dagger main hand was nerfed a lot compared to other thief options. Dagger can still hit hard but it takes more effort. Also, everyone was nerfed so you will find your damage probably dropped a fair bit while others have adapted to increase their damage back up to the point where they are comfortable. 
 

Other professions, although that's an overly broad category, can still achieve one shots against glassy targets (although much less damage since the universal damage nerf for all professions). 
 

Overall, I'd say it's probably about 75% nerfs to Dagger and 25% the universal damage nerf patch.

Guess that's why my dagger feels like a toothpick while revs and eles almost oneshot.

Anet hates thief, nothing changed in that regard.

Edited May 1, 2021 by Stormtrooper.5976

[Sobx.1758]

On 5/1/2021 at 9:18 PM, Stormtrooper.5976 said:

Anet hates thief, nothing changed in that regard.

 

How about you stop repeating these random claims made specifically for the sake of playing a victim when you're not one? Read through other professions' subforums and there are people that keep saying the same about their professions. None of that has anything to do with reality, so just stop.

And thief is fine, it's probably an l2p issue on your side. If you think other professions are better, then reroll I guess.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Sobx.1758

[kash.9213]

If you're a couple years out play some large pve events and bosses and watch how other players there are working with the mechanics of the fight. Look up about Break Bars and also observe target resource and health pools, indicator icons, and buffs. You have to build to dismantle targets in any part of the game to defend yourself and to open up their mitigation. I try to crit consistently and while my power is passable and not great, I'm taking health and boons using Control skills and utilities which interrupt a lot and some conditions like Vulnerability you might not think about much can be be set up for takedowns through traits and utilities. I build kind of generically but I like to take it easy and not rely heavily on trying to connect every step of a clutch sequence all of time, although it's nice to have some combos packed away that can jump on an opening. 

[pureskullz.7536]

Thing is thief is one of the few classes where you can choose to reroll a fight. Over and over and we can stealth to lower cooldowns and avoid incoming damage or at the very least mitigate it. That's part of the reason the damage was lowered so much and the mobility/utility that our class has is kittening insane. It'd be over powered for thief to get all of that and then also get the huge damage/burst. I just hope this person returning realizes that this class wasn't meant to be an easy one and ANET is not out to get this kittening class.

[Zacchary.6183]

Anet isn't out to get thief, the other professions are. :)

[DeceiverX.8361]

If you were dealing damage primarily via backstab, it's because its damage is down a lot.

 

The coefficient was nerfed by 25% in Feb. 2019 and a bunch of traits saw their coefficients nerfed or removed in terms of WvW/sPvP.

If you aren't using Tier7 food, it's also probably why.  T7 food is so broken it was a pretty large basis for why they nerfed all profession damage across the board two years ago.

 

Signet burst from pre-HoT had its backstab damage dropped by over 60% across its traits, and MH dagger AA chain has been nerfed a fair number of times, so you may have missed one or two instances of that.

 

Spam Shadow Shot, use an Air sigil, and abuse stealth via SA for maximum effect in terms of damage.  Or reroll a different class like I did.

Edited May 4, 2021 by DeceiverX.8361