Off-line

[Astralporing.1957]

2 hours ago, Acelidon.1358 said:

The change we didn't need (or want), but the one we deserved

I don;t think i've done anything that was so bad to deserve it 😞

[Flip.9230]

The OCD in me wants them to align. I'd prefer offline/online, but will take off-line/on-line if needs must.

 

Off-line/online however is an abomination and should be raised as a Priority 1 defect.

[T G.7496]

12 hours ago, Linken.6345 said:

Is this an american thing?

No, this is a great day for hyphens everywhere.

#hyphenlivesmatter

[Lottie.5370]

I really hate this change, it looks so odd and I wish they'd revert it.

 

The only positive I can draw from it, is that it makes it really obvious whether a person went online or offline from a quick glance.

[Fire Attunement.9835]

Good-morning! I am looking into this. 

[Asum.4960]

1 hour ago, Fire Attunement.9835 said:

Good-morning! I am looking into this. 

Thank-you!

[MokahTGS.7850]

18 hours ago, Linken.6345 said:

Is this an american thing?

This is not an American thing...this is a developer doesn't know how to grammar thing.

[Excursion.9752]

I-have-to-say-this-is-the-update-we-have-been-waiting-for!  Ninja-update-F-T-W!

[MokahTGS.7850]

Guil-d-War-s-2

 

This has got to be the dumbest thing we as a community have complained about...also #hyphen-gate

[Ayrilana.1396]

2 hours ago, MokahTGS.7850 said:

This is not an American thing...this is a developer doesn't know how to grammar thing.

Before criticizing the dev on grammar, realize that it can be spelled with or without the hyphen and still be correct. 

[iKeelMellow.8315]

Please bring back Offline instead of Off-line :(

[Fire Attunement.9835]

I heard back from the editing team. 

 

Short version from them:

They did it as part of some editing clean-up (clean up? cleanup? I don't even know at this point) to make it grammatically correct. 

 

Long version from them:

GRAMMAR CONTROVERSY AT ARENANET

 

The editing team struggled mightily with the weighty decision to add a hyphen in the term "off-line." After a heated debate that included no small amount of name-calling, tears, and even a little bloodshed (from an accidental, self-inflicted paper cut), they came to the not-entirely-unanimous decision that matching the spelling prescribed by Merriam-Webster outweighed the aesthetics and character-limit savings of the nonhyphenated spelling. One valued member of the team is contemplating leaving their highly sought-after Assistant to the Junior Editor position over the entire affair. The harmony of the editing team has been forever upset, but it's a worthy sacrifice in the name of proper grammar.

[Infusion.7149]

Well I guess if you use Webster as the reference that makes sense. Other dictionaries include offline as an acceptable spelling:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/offline
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/offline

[Jin.8501]

Sad-news-this-is-it-looks-atrocious-eye-sore-in-the-game

Edited May 12, 2021 by Jin.8501

[Siryx.5124]

Would be nice if the editors would care more about their playerbase than their sense of grammar. But checks out with the general neglect for the actual players of the game I guess.

[Danikat.8537]

Does the dictionary also say it should be capitalised when it appears at the end of a sentence?

[AgentMoore.9453]

1 hour ago, Fire Attunement.9835 said:

I heard back from the editing team. 

 

Short version from them:

They did it to make it grammatically correct.

It wasn't broken and shouldn't have been fixed. Offline is the current market and consumer-friendly term. Off-line is an obtuse and "technically" correct usage.

 

Like, I'm glad you leaned into the meeting room and asked them what was up (we like dev communication), but this is the last thing they should have been fiddling with. If the team was more concerned with optics than grammar, they'd have realized how it looks for devs to be squinting at something like this when the community has been told for the past year that all staff focus is on the upcoming expansion and therefore to expect thin effort on the rest of the game. If you're picking at trivial line items in the game that don't appear to improve anything for the players, you give the impression that all hands are not actually on deck.

 

At the end of the day, this particular matter is of very little concern - but the optics aren't.

Edited May 12, 2021 by AgentMoore.9453

[Dondarrion.2748]

OK A-net.

[Novus Angellite.6589]

You won't fix the audio bug that makes combat grunts and groans and various /emote sounds overpower actual in-instance dialogue (Because it's on the dialogue slider instead of the effects slider), or just annoying in overworld combat (Such as the obnoxiously loud grunts and groans during the Svanir shaman chief world boss) but this was of dire importance?

 

This is the equivalent of refusing to respond to someone's argument/question/general comment, and instead just replying:

 

*their

[kbae.5790]

The dash hurt my eyes to an extent I had to turn contact notifications off. I would like the toggle contacts again but only when the dash is removed or toggle-able. 

[Raizel.1839]

It's just a hyphen, I know players are mostly conservative but c'mon, who cares of a simple " - "?!  It's not changing anyone's playstyle. 

[JustTrogdor.7892]

I think this video explains the change to Off-line and the reason why best:

 

 

Seems clear after watching that video Taimi did it.   😄

Edited May 13, 2021 by JustTrogdor.7892

[Belisaria.8136]

People wonder why the devs don't interact with the community more, just look at this thread. World's tiniest issue, devs having fun with it, bunch of emotionally stunted people exploding. Don't blame 'em.

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

Just now, kbae.5790 said:

toggle-able. 

Good god what have you done

[Tanith.5264]

As a member of the playerbase who sees the game through older eyes, I am perfectly happy with the change. It's nice to be able to easily see which of my friends are"Online" and which are "Off-line".  :)