Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Really now Anet? My charr is a male warrior. Killed 3 elder dragons (where i am in the story) and a God. Yet he says "awh" in his dialog?? Come on now... Don't get me wrong, I'm not that bothered about it, but it just doesn't fit my character AT ALL. It was really surprising to me. 1 1 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentMoore.9453 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Wait until you play a Sylvari and ask this NPC what the Pale Tree is like you don't know. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, AgentMoore.9453 said: Wait until you play a Sylvari and ask this NPC what the Pale Tree is like you don't know. lmaoo thats bad. that shouldnt be a thing O.o I remember when the story was suppose to branch based off your selections during character creation. I don't expect that, but this is just too much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionMasquerade.5283 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, AgentMoore.9453 said: Wait until you play a Sylvari and ask this NPC what the Pale Tree is like you don't know. ArenaNet is usually pretty good with racial differences in dialogue. Surprising this one didn't get the same treatment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionMasquerade.5283 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Beast Sos.1457 said: Really now Anet? My charr is a male warrior. Killed 3 elder dragons (where i am in the story) and a God. Yet he says "awh" in his dialog?? Come on now... Don't get me wrong, I'm not that bothered about it, but it just doesn't fit my character AT ALL. It was really surprising to me. Wait when do you say this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 hours ago, ChampionMasquerade.5283 said: Wait when do you say this? I think it was when we spoke to tiami about her health. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antycypator.9874 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Beast Sos.1457 said: My charr is a male warrior That's why. You shouldn't expect any smart words from someone who can only chop things like an animal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Antycypator.9874 said: That's why. You shouldn't expect any smart words from someone who can only chop things like an animal. Awh is a a soft word that shouldn't be in the charr's vocabulary. It's not about having smart words to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antycypator.9874 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Beast Sos.1457 said: Awh is a a soft word that shouldn't be in the charr's vocabulary So charr are not allowed to be something more than tough angry cats? The worst thing about creating a race in fantasy world is making it's people completly emotionless. How boring it would be to have only tough guys, that can't say a nice thing. 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yggranya.5201 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Antycypator.9874 said: So charr are not allowed to be something more than tough angry cats? The worst thing about creating a race in fantasy world is making it's people completly emotionless. How boring it would be to have only tough guys, that can't say a nice thing. How boring it is to make your own character that's actually what the writer wants them to be rather than what you want them to be. Anyway, maybe you are moved by all the pathetic sob stories in games, but i feel nothing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antycypator.9874 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Yggranya.5201 said: How boring it is to make your own character that's actually what the writer wants them to be rather than what you want them to be. Anyway, maybe you are moved by all the pathetic sob stories in games, but i feel nothing. Someone said, a soft word shouldn't be in a charr's vocabulary; not just for a particular character... for whole race. Creating an individual character isn't bad, but they're like music — you can play only on white keys and you will get something, but you need also black keys to create better music. Different musical scales don't sound just higher or lower. In fact... only C-maj and A-min uses white keys. Just because a writer wants something, doesn't mean it's good. If we're talking about what charr are like — they can actualy love, be nice, sad, cry etc. I think ANet never wanted to make them 100% angry tough guys. And yes, I love sob stories. I'm a writer and my characters are always dark-themed. Everyone has a sob story. There's probably a solid reason why someone is mad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quench.7091 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 With engines of destruction, we have killed our gods! Awe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yggranya.5201 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Antycypator.9874 said: Someone said, a soft word shouldn't be in a charr's vocabulary; not just for a particular character... for whole race. Creating an individual character isn't bad, but they're like music — you can play only on white keys and you will get something, but you need also black keys to create better music. Different musical scales don't sound just higher or lower. In fact... only C-maj and A-min uses white keys. Just because a writer wants something, doesn't mean it's good. If we're talking about what charr are like — they can actualy love, be nice, sad, cry etc. I think ANet never wanted to make them 100% angry tough guys. And yes, I love sob stories. I'm a writer and my characters are always dark-themed. Everyone has a sob story. There's probably a solid reason why someone is mad. You don't need to be an "angry though guy" just 'cause you don't feel empathy for a condescending narcissist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchme.1097 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 15 hours ago, Beast Sos.1457 said: Really now Anet? My charr is a male warrior. Killed 3 elder dragons (where i am in the story) and a God. Yet he says "awh" in his dialog?? Come on now... Don't get me wrong, I'm not that bothered about it, but it just doesn't fit my character AT ALL. It was really surprising to me. What's wrong with that exactly? I am male and I say Awww everytime I see a cub. It's very manly to be an adult and have a tender heart for young and cute creatures 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 17, 2021 Author Share Posted May 17, 2021 Saying awh has nothing to do with empathy or whatnot. I'm not syaing that if someone says awh they can't manly. I am saying that a CHARR shouldn't be sayin awh. Charr are not human. Go look into the Charr lore and show we a place where they are soft. Love and empathy does not make someone soft. It shows they have emotions. On the other hand, a race of massive cats who are a warring race saying awh just doesn't fit. The charr are a warrior race. Best humans to compare to charr would be Spartans. Go look at spartan history and then tell me if they would be saying awh or not. People are to stuck in the present day politics. "Men can be super soft too!". If you guys want to believe that, thats totally fine but don't assume thats how men were along all of history. Also, using the word awh now is a bit different, its become very common in the western vocabulary. We live in the most soft and peaceful countries. Don't compare ourselves to what a Charr would be like/say. This is a fantasy game, which should be taking place in times where being PC doesn't apply. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola.6197 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Beast Sos.1457 said: This is a fantasy game, which should be taking place in times where being PC doesn't apply. Try not to strain any muscles when reaching this far! ❤️ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greyhawk.9107 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I don't get it, what exactly is the problem this time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchme.1097 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Think of Charrs as metalheads, they smash guitars, they brawl into mosh pits, they bang their heads, they listen to heavy metal and some of the most brutal songs out there but when they see a little kitten they show their soft side and say: "Awh, look at that dear little thing, that is so cute" 😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
particlepinata.9865 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Not only the Charr, but characters of all the races seem to have devolved to cw network level. They all changed into modern day teen soap humans . With emotional soap drama interactions. And there are people who are fine with that? The standards seem to have dropped over time. From characterfull stories and characters (also counting gw 1 with this) to oversensitive, emotional unstable immature characters. Not my cup of tea. I hope EOD gets new characters and story who are more mature written (like for example the Castlevania animation, or at least at the level of Avatar with deeper and enough fleshed out characters if age rating is a thing). Edited May 18, 2021 by particlepinata.9865 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, particlepinata.9865 said: Not only the Charr, but characters of all the races seem to have devolved to cw network level. They all changed into modern day teen soap humans . With emotional soap drama interactions. And there are people who are fine with that? The standards seem to have dropped over time. From characterfull stories and characters (also counting gw 1 with this) to oversensitive, emotional unstable immature characters. Not my cup of tea. I hope EOD gets new characters and story who are more mature written (like for example the Castlevania animation, or at least at the level of Avatar with deeper and enough fleshed out characters if age rating is a thing). Its things like all of this that make me suspect that "The Commander" from Anet's perspective and storytelling, has always been a human and that the other races are just along for the ride regardless of personality. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenom.9457 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Is this sarcasm? Are you actually so upset your character made a grunting noise that you made a forum post to complain? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 20 hours ago, Zola.6197 said: Try not to strain any muscles when reaching this far! ❤️ so thats all you got out of what i said? cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Fenom.9457 said: Is this sarcasm? Are you actually so upset your character made a grunting noise that you made a forum post to complain? you clearly didnt read what my first post so theres no point in going any further with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Sos.1457 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, particlepinata.9865 said: Not only the Charr, but characters of all the races seem to have devolved to cw network level. They all changed into modern day teen soap humans . With emotional soap drama interactions. And there are people who are fine with that? The standards seem to have dropped over time. From characterfull stories and characters (also counting gw 1 with this) to oversensitive, emotional unstable immature characters. Not my cup of tea. I hope EOD gets new characters and story who are more mature written (like for example the Castlevania animation, or at least at the level of Avatar with deeper and enough fleshed out characters if age rating is a thing). As a charr playing Icebrood saga, I can, without shadow of doubt, say that youre right. Literally feels like I'm a outsider. Theres small mentions here and there about me being a charr but outside of that it feels like I don't have any say in charr politics. Being the commander/dragon/god slayer who is a charr, I should be running the show. Edited May 18, 2021 by Beast Sos.1457 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rukia.4802 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Voicing the player character is always a bad idea imo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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