Double Scourge Speed Hack Duo - Anet Should Ban/Suspend Hack Users

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

1 hour ago, Bingus.4236 said:

Off topic but in the video at 9:18 the heal skill is used but nothing happens and it goes on full cool down. Why is there no healing?

 

Match timer ended. No healing after match timer ends.

[Khalisto.5780]

I have seen it many times, most of those players use several tiny ports so you think you lagging, but they are always faster than you no matter what.

 

[Paradoxoglanis.1904]

2 hours ago, Bingus.4236 said:

Off topic but in the video at 9:18 the heal skill is used but nothing happens and it goes on full cool down. Why is there no healing?

Cant heal after the timer goes to 0:00 in deathmatch

[Faux Play.6104]

On 5/18/2021 at 6:51 PM, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

This is ridiculous lately. Game is becoming unplayable. I've reported these Necros several times in the past couple of days and I know I am not the only one who has, so why are they still here blatant speed hacking in every game they are in? Population is small and it can't be hard for devs to see when a player has an overwhelming amount of "botting" reports being sent in about them. Take care of this garbage.

 

Here they are, speed hacking blatantly & shamelessly the entire match:

 

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1027561998

That is from a rune you can buy in the gemstone.

[Yakuzai.6593]

And here I am, once defending myself against pointless flaming by insulting someone with "suck my d*********K" xD and immedeatley after 5 min got banned for 2 weeks while obvious hacking seems to be allowed ... ........seems legit anet :') 

[TrollingDemigod.3041]

15 minutes ago, Yakuzai.6593 said:

And here I am, once defending myself against pointless flaming by insulting someone with "suck my d*********K" xD and immedeatley after 5 min got banned for 2 weeks while obvious hacking seems to be allowed ... ........seems legit anet :') 

You may had hurt someones "EmOtIoNs/FeElInGs" and that's 10000x times worse than cheaters ruining other people games, you know.
Current world is kinda snowflake^2 and people posses glass hearts that shatter when someone even dares to speak facts to them, so yea...

[Kuma.1503]

Sad thing you're more likely to get banned than they are by making this thread. 

 

Witch Hunting players is not allowed. 

 

Anet has their priorities I guess. 

[Kuma.1503]

Unrelated, but why doesn't your heal skill heal you at 9:20? I've watched it over and over again, and I can't figure it out. 

 

You may have won that 1v2 if not for that. 

 

Edit: Nvm just noticed that the match went to timer. This is why I play glass in 2v2 lul. Win or lose, at least it's over quick. 

Edited May 22, 2021 by Kuma.1503

[crewthief.8649]

3 hours ago, Yakuzai.6593 said:

And here I am, once defending myself against pointless flaming by insulting someone with "suck my d*********K" xD and immedeatley after 5 min got banned for 2 weeks while obvious hacking seems to be allowed ... ........seems legit anet :') 

Naughty words are way worse than someone hacking/cheating in a video game. What would we do without our nanny overlords to save us from bad words?

[Eugchriss.2046]

After reporting hackers again and again without them getting banned, I've reached to the conclusion that EVERYONE SHOULD IMMEDIATELEY START USING HACK. That way, the problem will be big enough for Anet to start taking actions...eventually.

So if you guys know some hack programs, please share. Ty

[Eddbopkins.2630]

Im a give anet 3-6 months then, im going to file a conplaint against them. About them not following their own TOS about getting ride of hackers and cheaters.  anet needs to take action against these cheaters in order to keep the game fair. The population is to small to have these kinds of people in the game even for a minute. And the same ppl have been doing it for years.

https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/bellevue/profile/computer-software-developers/arenanet-llc-1296-22017235

Edited May 22, 2021 by Eddbopkins.2630

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

19 hours ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said:

Im a give anet 3-6 months then, im going to file a conplaint against them. About them not following their own TOS about getting ride of hackers and cheaters.  anet needs to take action against these cheaters in order to keep the game fair. The population is to small to have these kinds of people in the game even for a minute. And the same ppl have been doing it for years.

https://www.bbb.org/us/wa/bellevue/profile/computer-software-developers/arenanet-llc-1296-22017235

 

The strange thing is, all of that stuff in their original TOS that used to say: "We promise to keep a fair & competitive environment for everyone, hacks not allowed, match manipulation not allowed" every single bit of it was removed from the TOS. I was amazed and appalled when I had recently reread the TOS myself, to see that it now says only this: "Arenanet has the right to take any action or no action based on reports and they don't need to explain why."

 

So legally, every time we reagreed to those small TOS changes over the years, at some point we all clicked and agreed that it was ok for Arenanet to do absolutely nothing about cheating. And make no mistake, those TOS changes were exactly that, a way to get out of obligation to keep the game clean. They did that on purpose and this is a very large indication that nothing will ever be done to clean up this pvp scene.

 

If there were legal measure that could be taken, it is possible that users who purchased the game long ago before these new TOS changes, who had agreed to the original TOS statements, could possibly push for refunds because the TOS was changed out from under them in a very sneaky way, and that TOS change was no small change either, it was a change that changed everything about the game we had purchased and our reasons for purchasing it. That TOS change essentially turned a serious game that was originally designed for clean esport play into a a nasty bad game that is now ruined due to unbelievable amounts of cheating in all forms.

 

Normally I wouldn't believe there to be any real legal case in something like this, but there could be considering how sneaky the change was and how largely it altered everything about the product to the point that it is no longer the same product at all. There could be a real case for mass refund in that.

 

Either way, it's good to see more people taking their consumer rights more seriously. Gamers need to start doing it more often.

 

 

Edited May 23, 2021 by Trevor Boyer.6524

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

6 minutes ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

 

The strange thing is, all of that stuff in their original TOS that used to say: "We promise to keep a fair & competitive environment for everyone, hacks not allowed, match manipulation not allowed" every single bit of it was removed from the TOS. I was amazed and appalled when I had recently reread the TOS myself, to see that it now says only this: "Arenanet has the right to take any action or no action based on reports and they don't need to explain why."

 

So legally, every time we reagreed to those small TOS changes over the years, at some point we all clicked and agreed that it was ok for Arenanet to do absolutely nothing about cheating. And make no mistake, those TOS changes were exactly that, a way to get out of obligation to keep the game clean. They did that on purpose and this is a very large indication that nothing will ever be done to clean up this pvp scene.

 

If there were legal measure that could be taken, it is possible that users who purchased the game long ago before these new TOS changes, who had agreed to the original TOS statements, could possibly push for refunds because the TOS was changed out from under them in a very sneaky way, and that TOS change was no small change either, it was a change that changed everything about the game we had purchased and our reasons for purchasing it. That TOS change essentially turned a serious game that was originally designed for clean esport play into a a nasty bad game that is now ruined due to unbelievable amounts of cheating in all forms.

 

Normally I wouldn't believe there would be any 

 

 

So if you cheat/bot then no action will be taken.

 

But heaven forbid you dupe an item or say a naughty word or post screenshots and videos of cheaters.

[Trevor Boyer.6524]

1 minute ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

So if you cheat/bot then no action will be taken.

 

But heaven forbid you dupe an item or say a naughty word or post screenshots and videos of cheaters.

 

Yeah man, that's where it gets so weird and highly questionable.

 

It actually looks like they defend the cheaters, as if they were somehow making money off of them, or had some other kind of agenda behind it that was helping their company in some way. Because you're right, you can make a swear word in /m chat and get suspended in less than 5 minutes. You can post not even an accusation but like sheer raw incriminating evidence of players boldly and shamelessly hacking, post immediately removed, sweep it under the rug. But for some reason people can go into the game and hack and/or match manipulate as freely as they wish and no moderation is ever taken against it.

 

Something isn't right here.. and it feels dirty & unfair to the community who have supported this game all of these years. I myself as a consumer, have probably spent around 800.00 - 900.00 USD on this game over the past 9 years. When you read my previous post about a legal case, I'm not as much concerned with the usual things people complain about, I'm concerned with being treated fairly as a consumer.

 

So my big question is this: Are some consumers being given more rights than I am? Why are some other consumers being allowed to cheat everyone in the community without any repercussions? Why are some other consumers given the right to ruin my play experience? This is certainly a form of discrimination, harassment, and false commercialism.

 

This is not fair that a small group of players are allowed the right to do this. More players should be taking their rights as consumers much more seriously here.

[Lan Deathrider.5910]

2 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

 

Yeah man, that's where it gets so weird and highly questionable.

 

It actually looks like they defend the cheaters, as if they were somehow making money off of them, or had some other kind of agenda behind it that was helping their company in some way. Because you're right, you can make a swear word in /m chat and get suspended in less than 5 minutes. You can post not even an accusation but like sheer raw incriminating evidence of players boldly and shamelessly hacking, post immediately removed, sweep it under the rug. But for some reason people can go into the game and hack and/or match manipulate as freely as they wish and no moderation is ever taken against it.

 

Something isn't right here.. and it feels dirty & unfair to the community who have supported this game all of these years. I myself as a consumer, have probably spent around 800.00 - 900.00 USD on this game over the past 9 years. When you read my previous post about a legal case, I'm not as much concerned with the usual things people complain about, I'm concerned with being treated fairly as a consumer.

 

So my big question is this: Are some consumers being given more rights than I am? Why are some other consumers being allowed to cheat everyone in the community without any repercussions? Why are some other consumers given the right to ruin my play experience? This is certainly a form of discrimination, harassment, and false commercialism.

 

This is not fair that a small group of players are allowed the right to do this. More players should be taking their rights as consumers much more seriously here.

This is more to do with a prior comment of mine I think.

The PvP community has gotten so small (for whatever reasons anyone cares to debate) that in order to keep games going Anet is either looking the other way in regards to the bots/hackers and/or is running the bots themselves.

 

I think they are looking the other way on the hackers and are running bots directly to keep games flowing tbh. Though they should be upfront about any Anet run bots and be honest about it. That is something that I think people can forgive so long as a long term solution is being worked on.

[Eddbopkins.2630]

2 hours ago, Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

 

The strange thing is, all of that stuff in their original TOS that used to say: "We promise to keep a fair & competitive environment for everyone, hacks not allowed, match manipulation not allowed" every single bit of it was removed from the TOS. I was amazed and appalled when I had recently reread the TOS myself, to see that it now says only this: "Arenanet has the right to take any action or no action based on reports and they don't need to explain why."

 

So legally, every time we reagreed to those small TOS changes over the years, at some point we all clicked and agreed that it was ok for Arenanet to do absolutely nothing about cheating. And make no mistake, those TOS changes were exactly that, a way to get out of obligation to keep the game clean. They did that on purpose and this is a very large indication that nothing will ever be done to clean up this pvp scene.

 

If there were legal measure that could be taken, it is possible that users who purchased the game long ago before these new TOS changes, who had agreed to the original TOS statements, could possibly push for refunds because the TOS was changed out from under them in a very sneaky way, and that TOS change was no small change either, it was a change that changed everything about the game we had purchased and our reasons for purchasing it. That TOS change essentially turned a serious game that was originally designed for clean esport play into a a nasty bad game that is now ruined due to unbelievable amounts of cheating in all forms.

 

Normally I wouldn't believe there to be any real legal case in something like this, but there could be considering how sneaky the change was and how largely it altered everything about the product to the point that it is no longer the same product at all. There could be a real case for mass refund in that.

 

Either way, it's good to see more people taking their consumer rights more seriously. Gamers need to start doing it more o

Omg they really removed it? Then pvp competitive ranked que it nothing but a lie. A net is lieing and and has been lieing to me for years about them careing and wanting this game mode in their game....

I can not in good conscious recommend this game to any one not for pve and certainly not for pvp. Anet has ignored and disrepected the player base and the pvp community for long enough. Removal of the tos hack/cheat disciple statement is the last straw for me.

Holy moly if it isnt staed in the TOS anymore then anet 100% encourges people to hack and cheat in there game mode.....to allow that to happen just goes to show their own massive level of incompetence and disrespect to the people who play this game honestly. Plain and simple.

Anet does not care about its pvp community. Change my mind.

 

Cant wait for a new mmo and to leave this anet driven pvp disaster behond and never ever look back again.....mark my words anet your days are numbered. You have done it to your self. I loved this game but anet it self is destroying the game mode.

Edited May 23, 2021 by Eddbopkins.2630

[Boggs.6482]

I've beeeeen trying to tell ya'll, Anet programmed some super simple state machine AI bots to fill games to keep queue times steady.

[Master Ketsu.4569]

I'm 100% sure that hacker is trolling to get a reaction. At the 12 minute mark he starts spewing racial slurs ( Calls your duo partner a s**c ), which are generally not tolerated by anets GMs.

 

This will continue until Anet starts also banning their mains in addition to the hacker accounts. Twats will always be twats for as long as they think they can get away with it. The only way to stop it is to drop the hammer.

 

 

[Crystal Paladin.3871]

On 5/22/2021 at 7:45 PM, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

You may had hurt someones "EmOtIoNs/FeElInGs" and that's 10000x times worse than cheaters ruining other people games, you know.
Current world is kinda snowflake^2 and people posses glass hearts that shatter when someone even dares to speak facts to them, so yea...

Pls don't consider inappropriate language should be tolerated... End result would be so ugly... First you tolerate insult against yourself, then do you intend to ignore insults against your parents, brothers, sisters? If you are okay with others insulting your family, idk what to say and if more ppl decide to tolerate such behavior , idk what the world has come to?

I for one sure not ready to accept such kind of environment to exist in gw2 . I'd rather get snowballed by cheaters and hackers who don't speak at all... At that point, I'd consider playing AT or something... So the situation get noticed by so many ppl and might get a response from anet

Atleast the hacker got exposed by Trevor in his twitch vod... Now the hacker can't brag about himself since we know he's a cheater and if he makes himself visible anywhere in-game, ppl would outright reject him... So he gained nothing from all victories he had by cheating.

Edited May 24, 2021 by Crystal Paladin.3871

[TrollingDemigod.3041]

1 hour ago, Crystal Paladin.3871 said:

Pls don't consider inappropriate language should be tolerated... End result would be so ugly... First you tolerate insult against yourself, then do you intend to ignore insults against your parents, brothers, sisters? If you are okay with others insulting your family, idk what to say and if more ppl decide to tolerate such behavior , idk what the world has come to?

I for one sure not ready to accept such kind of environment to exist in gw2 . I'd rather get snowballed by cheaters and hackers who don't speak at all... At that point, I'd consider playing AT or something... So the situation get noticed by so many ppl and might get a response from anet

Atleast the hacker got exposed by Trevor in his twitch vod... Now the hacker can't brag about himself since we know he's a cheater and if he makes himself visible anywhere in-game, ppl would outright reject him... So he gained nothing from all victories he had by cheating.

I'm pretty sure I've trashtalked with inappropriate language quite often if not always, yet I was banned only 3 times for a single word, sorry, what? If A-net want to ban for "bad wurdz" then they either ban for everything that is "bad" or nothing, not some few specific words that may offend like 0.5% of human population, get real here.
You ignore insults, since they're, you know, worthless words at most? If you get offended by words, are you sure about playing MMO games in the first place?
I'm pretty sure that cheater doesn't really care about his "face" in the game if he already decided to use cheats, like, where's a logic here? He gained a lot from victories by cheating, he ruined games for others, which you somehow missed.
Beside that lack of logic that you showed there, cheaters should be dealt immediately, not "maybe within next 6 months they may get banned for 2 weeks", but A-net deals with mere "bad words" within days or even hours here. Sorry, but their "priority list" is kinda screwed up.

[Crystal Paladin.3871]

32 minutes ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

If you get offended by words, are you sure about playing MMO games in the first place?

If u get offended by someone cheating in a video game are you sure about playing mmo games in the first place? If u ask me to lose a part of myself and become something else, I'd suggest u do the same...

 

32 minutes ago, TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

I'm pretty sure that cheater doesn't really care about his "face" in the game if he already decided to use cheats, like, where's a logic here? He gained a lot from victories by cheating, he ruined games for others, which you somehow missed.

If he doesn't care about the face in-game, why does he even wear the title? Why does he try to brag when he defeated his opponents? Why does he even play PvP? I'm sure if he just want rewards, he can do legitimate pve or even other illegitimate item duping hacks and other stuff to accrue wealth as you mentioned "gained a lot from victories"

And yes he ruined a lot of games for others he even used inappropriate language in the end of the fight he ruined the experience of other players... I don't support him at all... I didn't defend him in any way...

 

I was merely pointing out inappropriate language is not healthy and I don't wish to face it anywhere in gw2 and your opinion on the subject was leading to an unhealthy environment that the future might bring us within gw2.

 

A little offtopic:

Is it a fashion thing to use bad words now and then to get acknowledgement among others and to get self satisfaction?

Maybe some people do love being called out with bad words after all? Idk

And your forum name "trollingdemigod" what prompted to create such a name?

 

Note: this already seems like derailing the original topic... I don't wish to continue this side topic any further... This topic should not compare another violation term with the one discussed in topic a violation is a violation

This topic/thread should focus only on the subject : "hacking and cheating should be punished by anet" sorry if I diverted the focus of this thread

Edited May 24, 2021 by Crystal Paladin.3871

[Zizou.2358]

4 hours ago, Master Ketsu.4569 said:

I'm 100% sure that hacker is trolling to get a reaction. At the 12 minute mark he starts spewing racial slurs ( Calls your duo partner a s**c ), which are generally not tolerated by anets GMs.

Nah, he is just a poor, nolife, garbage human. 

[Twilight Tempest.7584]

This is pretty demoralizing. As if balance and population weren't problems enough.

[Rukia.4802]

1 drunk night for me in spvp was guarantee to catch a ban, my last ban on my main acc was 6 months for hurting someone feelers. And to think, I could have gotten away with botting & usage of hacks this whole time instead of submitting myself to the cancur that is spvp.

 

Take a couple dummy accounts and on one of them insult people all day and the other use bots and hacks all day see which one gets you banned first.  The silent hacker is guaranteed untouchable while the other will get the sjw banhammer faster than you can say beam me up scotty.

[Grand Marshal.4098]

Is it a fashion thing amongst hackers? You know speed hacks on Necro. I mean I can see why the less mobile tank class with speed sounds OP (have seen several of those myself), but kitten if I hacked I would use more and different classes. Imagine conquest with a mesmer speedhacking sidenoding.

 

Or perhaps a sluggish full stances warrior with speedhacks. Possibilitites are endless!

 

Talk about hacking having more theorycrafting than the game we mortals play.