weaponwh.9810 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 i like the staff mirage, and since i have most the gear, curious after current patch whats the condi mirage dps look like? i heard condi mirage is the top condi build in term of dps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 9 hours ago, weaponwh.9810 said: i like the staff mirage, and since i have most the gear, curious after current patch whats the condi mirage dps look like? i heard condi mirage is the top condi build in term of dps? When you're asking theese questions it's probably best to specify what content is this for. Raids? Sure, it's still strong but only on certain bosses - that's how raids work - you need different builds for different bosses. Fractals? People have different opinion on what's good. Some say yes, some no. Open world? Anything's good. Staff mirage was strong in PvE even before the alacrity, don't see why it would be bad now just because they nerfed it. WvW zerg? Lmao no... WvW roaming? Still no as long as it has 1 dodge. PvP? No idea, i don't play PvP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandamanno.4136 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Veprovina.4876 said: When you're asking theese questions it's probably best to specify what content is this for. Raids? Sure, it's still strong but only on certain bosses - that's how raids work - you need different builds for different bosses. Fractals? People have different opinion on what's good. Some say yes, some no. Open world? Anything's good. Staff mirage was strong in PvE even before the alacrity, don't see why it would be bad now just because they nerfed it. WvW zerg? Lmao no... WvW roaming? Still no as long as it has 1 dodge. PvP? No idea, i don't play PvP. Except for events in PvE. If you are doing events you really can't use Staff effectively at all. Mesmer is already hard enough in events with phantasms and clones that die when your target dies, never mind dealing with slow staff as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moradorin.6217 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I would say its much too slow in fractals. Yes you could play it but it would be slow and suck other then on a few bosses. As with meta events staff is not good for doing things like clearing fractals, nor is axe rly, which is why mirage isnt part of its meta. Raids, sure just like before the patch it will be useful on SH, Mathias, etc, but its not good on most. It also will never offer the utility that alac can offer a party or raid. Its nice that they did somthing for staff, but well Meh, who cares rly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kondor.2904 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 It's 27k+ with 43 avg confusion without boon duration swaps, pre patch it was ~30k with 48 confusion. So it's still a top dog for high attack rate bosses. And with those numbers it should still be among top dogs on anything that doesn't require immediate burst, considering you also supply might and alacrity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moradorin.6217 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 In fractals things will die before your your staff hits with a good group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moradorin.6217 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 rene onthe other hand can supply might f2 and alac f4 and have real actual bursts well over 30k on clearing trash while also being able to supply party with protection, massive cc, stability + even heals and damage reduction with things like soulcleave. Mirage is a very kitten option in comparison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaponwh.9810 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 yea forgot its mainly for raid on certain boss, like dhuum/mat/largo/sabir/cari i have other condi dps firebrand/soulbeast, but want to find another condi dps for boss thats not too good for other condi dps such as soulbeast/FB. for example largo, i find myself always lagging in term of dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veprovina.4876 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, dandamanno.4136 said: Except for events in PvE. If you are doing events you really can't use Staff effectively at all. Mesmer is already hard enough in events with phantasms and clones that die when your target dies, never mind dealing with slow staff as well. I have no problem doing events whatsoever, don't know why people have such hard time with them. Chaos storm (?) staff 5 can tag just fine if you need to target trash mobs, and you can even add that mirage AOE if you really need to tag more. Staff ambush goes through mobs and doesn't require a target so you can just free aim it if necessary and bosses don't die immediately anyway. Plus, for the most part you only need to be in the area to get gold participation so idk... And sure, its tagging power isn't that great, but then again, all classes have dedicated tagging builds, and mirage has one too, just swap to greatsword. But every class has to build specifixally for that, meaning its only use is tagging and nothing else. Besides, WvW staff build will also be different, you can't really compare it. So idk why you're comparing tagging builds to this one, their purposes are different... But like i said, I don't have any problems doing events with a staff, it's fine. Edited May 27, 2021 by Veprovina.4876 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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