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How warrior got to the state it is in now


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On 5/30/2021 at 2:23 AM, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

Is there one running around with a name like 'buff teef'

 

So... I've started playing condi thief in sPVP, partly because I want to know how to beat them, and also because of PVP week (I didn't want to stress out farming pvp so I tried other classes). 

 

I know my early impressions are invalid when it comes to concepts of balance and such, but from a new player perspective, having zero experience with thief, to be able to comfortably 2v1 at about my 3rd match with it after having basic understanding of my escape options, p/d skill3 and steal to do most of the work, it's almost like I'm playing with my food.  I'd say the spvp skill floor on it is very low, coming from warrior pvp.

 

I'm still a warrior main, playing it feels most natural to me.  Warrior can be aggressive if it wants to be, or stay alive and be defensive if it wants to, but it's always give and take, and I always have to play my brains out.

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18 hours ago, CaffeeCup.5742 said:

 

So... I've started playing condi thief in sPVP, partly because I want to know how to beat them, and also because of PVP week (I didn't want to stress out farming pvp so I tried other classes). 

 

I know my early impressions are invalid when it comes to concepts of balance and such, but from a new player perspective, having zero experience with thief, to be able to comfortably 2v1 at about my 3rd match with it after having basic understanding of my escape options, p/d skill3 and steal to do most of the work, it's almost like I'm playing with my food.  I'd say the spvp skill floor on it is very low, coming from warrior pvp.

 

I'm still a warrior main, playing it feels most natural to me.  Warrior can be aggressive if it wants to be, or stay alive and be defensive if it wants to, but it's always give and take, and I always have to play my brains out.

I've been playing P/D thief for months so I can say you are 100% right about that. It seems like in this game every class overperforms on its particularity except warrior.

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that ID is most likely from 2013.

 

funny how you still think this current situation for warrior is new.

as old time warrior i can tell you this situation is literally the norm for pvp warrior since 2013

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On 5/30/2021 at 3:19 PM, Infusion.7149 said:

Lol wasn't CMC playing spellbreaker in WVW?

if you can call being carried by a ton of players, playing. Being a Zerg-serfer doesn't in my eyes consist of playing the class. Play it in small-scale/PvP to really get a feel for it. What he is doing is basically being a bubble bot, which is the WvW equivalent to being a banner-slave.

Which is all the class is reduced to in any high end content/competitive scene. (Im not even sure what he's been doing. Guys been pretty quiet of late.)

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2 hours ago, Thornwolf.9721 said:

if you can call being carried by a ton of players, playing. Being a Zerg-serfer doesn't in my eyes consist of playing the class. Play it in small-scale/PvP to really get a feel for it. What he is doing is basically being a bubble bot, which is the WvW equivalent to being a banner-slave.

Which is all the class is reduced to in any high end content/competitive scene. (Im not even sure what he's been doing. Guys been pretty quiet of late.)

because he isnt allowed to change anything other then numbers so he hates his job now.

when he got the job he's always online and he's happy

and now he is not.

 

because when mechanics are broken, numbers arent going to fix anything, the least he could do was add 300 CD on some traits, but he can't put that on broken class mechanics.

 

class designers never cared about pvp/wvw to begin with,

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Just now, felix.2386 said:

because he isnt allowed to change anything other then numbers so he hates his job now.

when he got the job he's always online and he's happy

and now he is not.

Id be unhappy too if they shoved me in a closet, and told me my job is to fix the mess they left him. I'd also be unhappy they deny me resources to fix it, or make stuff Id like to see. Im pretty sure the convo goes something like this.

CmC: "I'd like to make some changes, and rework some of these specs to be more fun. Warrior looks like some of its stuff could use some love, and druid is a meme. We need to fix some of these and make sure they are viable, so here is my plan..."

The guy in charge: "Yea, so Im going to need you to not? Just make minor adjustments to their numbers. We have gem-store stuff to finish and pump out for people to buy more shinnies."

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