Legendary Armory: what about the "leftovers"?

[Ashantara.8731]

I assume that the Legendary Armory will work in a way that legendary armor, weapons and upgrades (i.e., runes and sigils) will get stored in an account-wide storage so that all characters will have access to them and be able to use them at the same time. (I hope that we will be able to give them different skins per character, but that's a different topic.)

 

Now, I was wondering: Will there be a way to salvage leftover weapons, upgrades and armor sets?

 

For instance, I have two Bolts, because I needed two legendary swords at one point (I might still need them in the future, it's just an example). Or all the legendary runes and sigils I crafted for use on separate characters that will now likely be shared, which means I will have many spare ones left in this new scenario.

 

It would be great if we got a way to dispose of them (apart from the delete option ) and get some valuable materials back.

 

Edited May 30, 2021 by Ashantara.8731

[Vegeta.2563]

42 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

I assume that the Legendary Armory will work in a way that legendary armor, weapons and upgrades (i.e., runes and sigils) will get stored in an account-wide storage so that all characters will have access to them and be able to use them at the same time. (I hope that we will be able to give them different skins per character, but that's a different topic.)

 

Now, I was wondering: Will there be a way to salvage leftover weapons, upgrades and armor sets?

 

For instance, I have two Bolts, because I needed two legendary swords at one point. Or all the legendary runes and sigils I crafted for use on separate characters that will now likely be shared, which means I will have many spare ones left in this new scenario.

 

It would be great if we got a way to dispose of them (apart from the delete option ) and get some valuable materials back.

 

 

I would assume you would need to contact support if something like this isn't added.  As far as two bolts, I don't think they would help considering two of the same 1 handed weapons gives you twice told legend when carrying both at once and talking to Historian Dozza in DR

Edited May 30, 2021 by Vegeta.2563

[Sarrs.4831]

I expect you will still need to actually own two Bolts if you want to use two Bolts in the same way as manually moving these items across characters would work with the Shared Inventory Slots.

[Evil.1580]

Will you (and everyone else) give away your legendary skins if you salvage that weapon? I don't think so. Legendaries are half skins, you know? A lot of players are crafting a legendary because of its look. Since they have unique look.

[Ashantara.8731]

 

I am getting the impression that none of you actually read/understood my question.

 

2 hours ago, Vegeta.2563 said:

 

I would assume you would need to contact support if something like this isn't added.  As far as two bolts, I don't think they would help considering two of the same 1 handed weapons gives you twice told legend when carrying both at once and talking to Historian Dozza in DR

 

Huh? I don't ask for compensation. I asked the devs whether there will be something we can do with the leftovers, like salvage them for legendary materials, as - for instance - two legendary heavy armor sets will become obsolete.

 

1 hour ago, Sarrs.4831 said:

I expect you will still need to actually own two Bolts if you want to use two Bolts in the same way as manually moving these items across characters would work with the Shared Inventory Slots.

 

???

 

42 minutes ago, Evil.1580 said:

Will you (and everyone else) give away your legendary skins if you salvage that weapon? I don't think so. Legendaries are half skins, you know? A lot of players are crafting a legendary because of its look. Since they have unique look.

 

?????

 

The skins are already unlocked. My question has nothing to do with skins...

 

Edited May 30, 2021 by Ashantara.8731

[Evil.1580]

3 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

???????

 

The skins are already unlocked. My question has nothing to do with skins...

 

What happens to people that have 2 legendary swords but different and they want to keep both skins but salvage 1 of the swords ?

[Ashantara.8731]

Just now, Evil.1580 said:

What happens to people that have 2 legendary swords but different and they want to keep both skins but salvage 1 of the swords ?

Legendary skins, like all skins, stay unlocked forever in your wardrobe, regardless of whether you destroy the item or not.

[Evil.1580]

17 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

Legendary skins, like all skins, stay unlocked forever in your wardrobe, regardless of whether you destroy the item or not.

So why not:

1. Make a legendary -> unlock its skin

2. Salvage this legendary -> gain mats back

3. Make next legendary with the mats from the 1st -> unlock its skin

4. Repeat to unlock all legendary skins with just the mats req for 1 legendary.

Edited May 30, 2021 by Evil.1580

[Pifil.5193]

5 minutes ago, Evil.1580 said:

So why not:

1. Make a legendary -> unlock its skin

2. Salvage this legendary -> gain mats back

3. Make next legendary with the mats from the 1st -> unlock its skin

4. Repeat to unlock all legendary skins with just the mats req for 1 legendary.

I don't think Ashantara was asking for all the mats to be returned. Like when you salvage an Exotic or Ascended item you get some materials back not all.

 

Getting some, for example, Mystic Clovers back from salvaging an extra/duplicate Legendary would be worth something at least. 

[Ashantara.8731]

35 minutes ago, Evil.1580 said:

So why not:

1. Make a legendary -> unlock its skin

2. Salvage this legendary -> gain mats back

3. Make next legendary with the mats from the 1st -> unlock its skin

4. Repeat to unlock all legendary skins with just the mats req for 1 legendary.

 

1. You cannot currently salvage legendaries, hence this thread.

2. see below

 

23 minutes ago, Pifil.5193 said:

I don't think Ashantara was asking for all the mats to be returned. Like when you salvage an Exotic or Ascended item you get some materials back not all.

 

Thank you.

 

24 minutes ago, Pifil.5193 said:

Getting some, for example, Mystic Clovers back from salvaging an extra/duplicate Legendary would be worth something at least. 

 

Exactly!

[Astralporing.1957]

 

3 hours ago, Sarrs.4831 said:

I expect you will still need to actually own two Bolts if you want to use two Bolts in the same way as manually moving these items across characters would work with the Shared Inventory Slots.

 

1 hour ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

???

 

It means, that in order to use two swords in one equipment tab, you will almost certainly still need 2 legendaries. The same way you currently can't link a single item from one gear tab to two slots in the same, other tab at the same time.

 

[Ashantara.8731]

1 hour ago, Astralporing.1957 said:

It means, that in order to use two swords in one equipment tab, you will almost certainly still need 2 legendaries.

 

I know that. It still has zero to do with this topic, and it is starting to annoy me that people keep derailing from the actual topic.

[Sarrs.4831]

1 hour ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

 

I know that. It still has zero to do with this topic, and it is starting to annoy me that people keep derailing from the actual topic.

You brought it up specifically in your OP that you have two Bolts with the insinuation that you would not be able to use the extra one, but they would not be useless which I understood to be the thrust of the issue: that you want to have a way to get some value out of useless legendaries.

If you have more than 7 runes or 8 sigils it makes sense as those items would become literally useless. If you could salvage them into one of the crafting steps that you might be able to sell, that'd be nice. Alternatively they could de-bind them and let you sell them with the release of the Armory.

Edited May 30, 2021 by Sarrs.4831

[Zaxares.5419]

This is a question I hope ANet will answer in the near future too. Ideally there should be some way to salvage or recycle unnecessary Legendaries. Naturally I wouldn't expect the ENTIRE cost of the Legendary to be returned (if it were up to me, salvaging a Legendary returns the Gift of Fortune/Mystic Tribute, but nothing else. This move would help keep the price of Mystic Coins from going stratospheric if the Armory is a hit), but there should be SOMETHING we can do, considering that currently Legendaries can't be salvaged and so if you have multiple copies of a similar Legendary, one of them is just going to wind up gathering dust in the bank.

 

Restrictions on the Armory that I'm sure will come to pass:

1. You will need at least one set of Legendary armor for each weight. A Light armor user still cannot wear a Legendary heavy armor set.
2. If you build uses two identical weapons, like Sword/Sword, you will need two Legendary swords. You can't just make Bolt and get to use 2 Bolts out of it.

[Katary.7096]

7 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

I assume that the Legendary Armory will work in a way that legendary armor, weapons and upgrades (i.e., runes and sigils) will get stored in an account-wide storage so that all characters will have access to them and be able to use them at the same time. (I hope that we will be able to give them different skins per character, but that's a different topic.)

 

Now, I was wondering: Will there be a way to salvage leftover weapons, upgrades and armor sets?

 

For instance, I have two Bolts, because I needed two legendary swords at one point (I might still need them in the future, it's just an example). Or all the legendary runes and sigils I crafted for use on separate characters that will now likely be shared, which means I will have many spare ones left in this new scenario.

 

It would be great if we got a way to dispose of them (apart from the delete option ) and get some valuable materials back.

 

Your question is something that no player can be expected to answer and the developers will likely not make a statement here, since they have already announced that more information on the legendary armory would be revealed later. (Probably in the form of another news post.)

 

Apart from that: Why should Arenanet even want players to get back some materials from salvaging legendary items?

[Raizel.1839]

I own Twilight, if I add it to the Armory, will I be able to craft Eternity later if I'd wish to?

[Veprovina.4876]

2 hours ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

 

I know that. It still has zero to do with this topic, and it is starting to annoy me that people keep derailing from the actual topic.

Get used to it. 99% of the time anyone posts anything, people just zone in on one (and probably only) thing they read and even though you just used it as an example, they'll start babbling about it as if it's the focus of the thread.

 

Like this for example.

You specifically said 2 Bolts are an example, you don't intend to delete any, you know you'll probably need them for the future, and you know that in order to use them in the armory, you still need 2 of them.

 

People in this thread:

- but you still need 2 bolts if you want to use them in the armory, you can't just use one in 2 slots

- oh so you want ALL mats back to make more legendaries and repeat the process???

- the skins? or something???

 

 

I swear, this forum sometimes...

 

  

1 hour ago, Sarrs.4831 said:

You brought it up specifically in your OP that you have two Bolts with the insinuation that you would not be able to use the extra one, but they would not be useless which I understood to be the thrust of the issue: that you want to have a way to get some value out of useless legendaries.

If you have more than 7 runes or 8 sigils it makes sense as those items would become literally useless. If you could salvage them into one of the crafting steps that you might be able to sell, that'd be nice. Alternatively they could de-bind them and let you sell them with the release of the Armory.

He also just used it as an example. The fact that you can't or wont read is not OPs fault. There was no insinuation, he specifically said he'll save both if in the future he needs to dual wield them.

 

Edited May 30, 2021 by Veprovina.4876

[Dawdler.8521]

49 minutes ago, Raizel.1839 said:

I own Twilight, if I add it to the Armory, will I be able to craft Eternity later if I'd wish to?

That is an interesting question, but I dont really see a problem with it. Such functionality is trivial - just check amount of legendaries available on the account/armory at character logon.

 

IE if you use twilight on one character to make eternity, your account now has 1 less twilight. If that number is less than the number of twilights on any other character you logon to (0 < 1), that character cant "take it out" from the armory at logon and thus any template which had it just get nothing. Guessing we will see a prompt with oops you had a legendary no longer in the armory, review your gear setup as it has been removed or whatever.

 

Fairly certain Anet has planned this out.

Edited May 30, 2021 by Dawdler.8521

[Obtena.7952]

A reasonable question: ... there are ways to do this for Ascended so I am hoping Anet considers how leftovers are handled. 

[Vavume.8065]

As someone that made 2 x Incinerators back in the CoF farm days I will never salvage one of them, they will stay with me forever.  

[Inculpatus cedo.9234]

I doubt any recompense will be forthcoming; just as there wasn't when Shared Inventory Slots were released (and players were lamenting having more than one Salvage-o-Matic, etc.)

[Ashantara.8731]

2 hours ago, Veprovina.4876 said:

Like this for example.

You specifically said 2 Bolts are an example, you don't intend to delete any, you know you'll probably need them for the future, and you know that in order to use them in the armory, you still need 2 of them.

 

People in this thread:

- but you still need 2 bolts if you want to use them in the armory, you can't just use one in 2 slots

- oh so you want ALL mats back to make more legendaries and repeat the process???

- the skins? or something???

 

I swear, this forum sometimes...

 

😂 Thank you so much! I was starting to doubt my communication abilities. 😆

 

2 hours ago, Veprovina.4876 said:

He also just used it as an example. The fact that you can't or wont read is not OPs fault. There was no insinuation, he specifically said he'll save both if in the future he needs to dual wield them.

 

She, not he. 😉 And yes, that's exactly what I said. But I guess I used too many words and confused some people. 🙈🙉🙊

 

42 minutes ago, Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:

I doubt any recompense will be forthcoming

 

I don't want a recompense per se, just something useful to do other than delete - let's say - a full set of legendary armor you will no longer need. Would be a shame.

 

If no dev replies to this thread, I guess I'll have to wait and see. 😉

Edited May 30, 2021 by Ashantara.8731

[Veprovina.4876]

53 minutes ago, Vavume.8065 said:

As someone that made 2 x Incinerators back in the CoF farm days I will never salvage one of them, they will stay with me forever.  

Well since 2 incineraors have uses as some classes can dual wield daggers your comment has nothing to do with this thread really...

Better question would be - what if you crafted 2 Bifrosts? And even what if you crafted a Bifrost and Nevermore? You'll only be able to use one because they're both mechanically the same, and since you unlocked both skins, any one of those 2 can look like the other. So what do you do with the spare legendary that won't get used?

Is it now just a junk item in your bank that you had to craft just for the skin? Or can you get some clovers or whatever out of it if they let you salvage it.

[Veprovina.4876]

3 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

 

😂 Thank you so much! I was starting to doubt my communication abilities. 😆

No, your communication skills are fine it's just that some people start arguing way too soon and their attention span when reading seems wonky so they don't even read the whole thing. I understood it and so did some other people in this thread so it's definitely not you. 😛

3 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

 

She, not he. 😉 And yes, that's exactly what I said. But I guess I used too many words and confused some people. 🙈🙉🙊

Ah, didn't know. Noted. 🙂

Yeah, attention span and all that. It's like they read "leftovers" and "2 bifrost" and that's it, let's go argue which inevitably led to "you know you can still use 2 bifrost" because that's all the information they got from 2 words they read. What's worse is they try to flip it on you then "ooh you didn't make yourself clear or whatever", but still won't go and read the OP and will continue arguing just those points. 🤦‍♂️

 

3 minutes ago, Ashantara.8731 said:

 

I don't want a recompense per se, just something useful to do other than delete - let's say - a full set of legendary armor you will no longer need. Would be a shame.

 

If no dev replies to this thread, I guess I'll have to wait and see. 😉

Yeah. I mean, i don't have multiple same legendaries myself but i can see how it would be annoying. Every other item, even if you craft it just for the skin, is salvageable. I've done this myself multiple times. Some are still in my bank but i crafted some items just for the skin and immediately salvaged it because they had like Soldier's or Settler's stats or some kitten i'll never use. Legendaries so far didn't have to be because they were the ultimate item and each one was usable just for one character at a time.

Now that that's changing, well, the "excess" ones will become inventory/bank junk without a use. And deleting 2000g worth of trouble seems wonky lol, i hope they give back at least some clovers or other materials - but not something insulting like 2 clovers per legendary, that would be a "weiner" move.

[Astralporing.1957]

3 hours ago, Raizel.1839 said:

I own Twilight, if I add it to the Armory, will I be able to craft Eternity later if I'd wish to?

Depends on whether you will be able to remove things from Armory.

 

 

19 minutes ago, Veprovina.4876 said:

Better question would be - what if you crafted 2 Bifrosts? And even what if you crafted a Bifrost and Nevermore? You'll only be able to use one because they're both mechanically the same, and since you unlocked both skins, any one of those 2 can look like the other. So what do you do with the spare legendary that won't get used?

Is it now just a junk item in your bank that you had to craft just for the skin? Or can you get some clovers or whatever out of it if they let you salvage it.

In case of Nevermore and Bifrost, nothing should happen. Remember, that Anet cannot (well, not easily at least) remove wardrobe unlocks from accounts. If someone would want a recompense for Nevermore (or for Bifrost), it would require them removing the wardrobe unlock from account as well (because otherwise you would be receiving a compensation while still getting the goods). So, that's not likely to happen.