Eugchriss.2046 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 The people who want guard to be buffed if anet remove trapper rune are killing me. Like really, we had the same thing with thief few months ago : take 3 defensive traitlines and 3 defensive utilities then QQ that you need buff because you do 0 dmg. Now we have the opposite with DH : take every %dmg modifier trait and a bererker amulet then QQ that you need buff because you have 0 sustain. L M kittening A O. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSH.6143 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, Eugchriss.2046 said: The people who want guard to be buffed if anet remove trapper rune are killing me. Like really, we had the same thing with thief few months ago : take 3 defensive traitlines and 3 defensive utilities then QQ that you need buff because you do 0 dmg. Now we have the opposite with DH : take every %dmg modifier trait and a bererker amulet then QQ that you need buff because you have 0 sustain. L M kittening A O. What we complain about, as any power guadian build, we *need* berserker to do dmg, but then we don't have enough health to be viable in sPvP. If we could take Marauder or even Valkrey and still have dmg we wouldn't complain. Other power dmg specs match or even surpass DH's/guardian's dmg on zerker while having more health, with equal or more sustain. Trappers are the only enabler of the low health and even then the build isn't strong. Everything that's supposedly strong on DH is stronger on Deadeye. Try to play any class with 11k health, a Reaper takes more than half your hp with just spamming marks. (Not claiming Reaper is op, just how absurd it is to run with so little health). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CutesySylveon.8290 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 6 hours ago, DanSH.6143 said: What we complain about, as any power guadian build, we *need* berserker to do dmg, but then we don't have enough health to be viable in sPvP. If we could take Marauder or even Valkrey and still have dmg we wouldn't complain. Other power dmg specs match or even surpass DH's/guardian's dmg on zerker while having more health, with equal or more sustain. Trappers are the only enabler of the low health and even then the build isn't strong. Everything that's supposedly strong on DH is stronger on Deadeye. Try to play any class with 11k health, a Reaper takes more than half your hp with just spamming marks. (Not claiming Reaper is op, just how absurd it is to run with so little health). Imagine playing a glass build and being frail? You seem to forget that DE dies to a swat of paper, especially a hit from DH, and doesn't have any blocks to speak of, it relies on blinds and stealth to not get clapped by everything. You have F2, F3, an invuln button that resets the former two and some of the craziest burst damage, as well as a ton of CC and area denial and you think you should be fast and stealthy? Try playing Berserker and you'll see what real frailty is and they don't get the privilege of on demand stealth and superspeed. They lose 300 toughness when they try to use their damage mode unless they trait for it and sacrifice a major perk they need. All that's happened is that too many people want to have their cake and eat it too. You want a high damage build without drawbacks and that's not how it's supposed to be. Trapper needs to go, it's carrying what is otherwise bad and poorly made builds because it's so vastly overtuned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guzzo.5274 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I agree that nerfing trapper rune will nerf dh badly. But the issue with trapper isn't with dh, it's with ranger. Anyway, guardian has several spec that are meta, even if dh is nerfed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald McDonald.8165 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 8 hours ago, DanSH.6143 said: What we complain about, as any power guadian build, we *need* berserker to do dmg, but then we don't have enough health to be viable in sPvP. If we could take Marauder or even Valkrey and still have dmg we wouldn't complain. Other power dmg specs match or even surpass DH's/guardian's dmg on zerker while having more health, with equal or more sustain. Trappers are the only enabler of the low health and even then the build isn't strong. Everything that's supposedly strong on DH is stronger on Deadeye. Try to play any class with 11k health, a Reaper takes more than half your hp with just spamming marks. (Not claiming Reaper is op, just how absurd it is to run with so little health). Literally every single top 10 streamer (including the ones who play the build): -one of the very best builds for ranked and extremely powerful Random guy on forums: -the build isn’t strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanSH.6143 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ronald McDonald.8165 said: Literally every single top 10 streamer (including the ones who play the build): -one of the very best builds for ranked and extremely powerful Random guy on forums: -the build isn’t strong Try it for yourself lol, if actually all top players say that, then yeah they're incorrec, so I doubt it's actually everyone and you're not just conflating someone saying "yeah it punishes noobs". You'll have more success with soulbeast, herald, daredevil, etc.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald McDonald.8165 Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, DanSH.6143 said: Try it for yourself lol, if actually all top players say that, then yeah they're incorrec, so I doubt it's actually everyone and you're not just conflating someone saying "yeah it punishes noobs". You'll have more success with soulbeast, herald, daredevil, etc.. I have over 300 matches on this build and have played it for the past 10 months or so. No, they are not saying it punishes noobs. They are saying it is an extremely powerful build. Get your head out of the sand and stop being disgustingly biased towards your own class. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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