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June 8th Patch for Warriors.


Lan Deathrider.5910

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I don't know about you guys, but I liked the changes.

 

I loved the focus on a rework of Defense and Arms and don't get me started with all the self-root and clunky weapons skills. 

 

Also, time to have banner support warriors in zergs yay!!!!

 

Berserker is finally in a good place with strong condition, power and support builds which are succesful in all content!

 

And spellbreakers finally hitting 36k benchmarks along with core !

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13 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

I'd rather receive nothing, than receive nerfs at this point but two straight updates with warrior receiving nothing? That Defense rework most be pushing the envelope.

Hey at least we didn't suffer the Elementalist fate, no info 1 patch, 1 nerf next patch. Superspeed FA may be a buff, but that's def an indirect one which anet didn't do for the sake of ele gameplay.

 

At least now I can stack Berserk and Featherfoot grace without worrying about superspeed. 

 

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1 hour ago, DKRathalos.9625 said:

So anyone wants to share their mind about why Anet hates Warrior?

I think warrior has to be a bit hard to balance.

Yes, the class is truly limited compared to guardian, elementalist or revenant. But as berserker you are still able to deal ~20k AoE damage with one single skill if you wield a greatsword, while being the class with highest HP. Plus tons of mobility, dodges, and CC. Warrior has great potential but requires too much effort when you can do the same with other classes, easier and with better results.

 

Competent spellbreakers are disgusting to play against because they are unkillable. If they win you, good. But if they don't they'll simply start running away and there is no way you can catch them, not even thief can.

 

And then there is this boon strip meta. Corruption is hardly a thing anymore since it is easily countered by scrappers converting conditions into boons, but spellbreakers can remove boons, reducing a part of the scrapper power.

 

But then you have some problems like being only decent at melee (sorry rifle/bow lovers), so if your zerg doesn't rush melee you can only watch your ranged allies doing your work. You can't properly manage conditions. You have serious sustain problems and Defense is a thrash trait line. Discipline, while good for weapon swapping got a huge nerf the last patch. Greatsword is a mandatory weapon and it's meh, since your stronger attack roots you and the 1# skill hits like spaghetti.

 

So the average warrior, instead being a immobile beast who can resist everything, is doomed to run away and gain time to recover because is unable to match the enemy sustain. And IMO berserker is kitten for competitive, never liked it, in a PvE environment where you know what is going to happen during the next 20 seconds berserker state can work. But in PvP/WvW you never know, and therefore most times you will rarely reach the full berserker potential. Also you are doomed to either lose 300 toughness and have some damage, or don't lose any toughness but losing part of your damage. Plus Headbutt deals like 7 damage?

 

Berserker in raid is very good. Can deal a fair amount of damage while empowering the entire squad with banners. And Spellbreaker could be a decent tank or might sharing class IMO, if:

 

1.- Enemy bosses had high boon generation, requiring a high boonstrip pressure.

2.- There weren't overperforming classes like firebrand, chronotank or druid (25 might + absurd healing, c'mon).

 

So I think is not hate, is more like Anet doesn't play warrior at all or not enough. And is not necessarily a warrior problem, is more like other classes overperform on what they do so they let no room for alternatives (have you seen a quickness scrapper in your raid replacing a firebrand yet?). 

 

This is just assumption. The only thing I'm 100% sure is they don't play WvW, hence my signature and the 300s CD on that Defense trait for more than a year.

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Ngl, I'm still impressed by how people cannot read warriors in competetive. Story time from yesterday!!!!

 

NE SM, 3 blues. Harrassing anyone coming by on the way to fight a red zerg around ogres. Busted meme builds. 2 Shiro Heralds abusing Impossible Odds + Sword 2 (that's some of the most absurd spike dmg with 0 prep whatsover and unblockable from Phase Traversal) and a trapper DH hitting some 11k trueshots and stabbing people with SoJ from stealth.

 

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PKwAElflJwmYisEGKOWL2LfA-w on marauder gear, zerker trinkets and warrior runes, cleansing, energy, absorbtion and strength sigils. A strong might build, one I didn't want to run shield  with. Kinda meme-ish build, cause the 2nd weapon set is very difficult to land properly, either strong skull crack or pommel bash and then axe bursts. You know, melee.

 

The number of times the one herald and the dragonhunter stayed in range of skullcrack amazed me. I had a bit of a high diff match with this build and figured I should play seriously (which I wasn't very happy about) and go for the normal Strength Spellbreaker and oh my god, did they MELT!

 

Imagine dropping AoEs when you see a warrior coming at you with FC. Or not kiting towards the warrior when magebane has connected...

 

Stuff like this will continue to undermine warrior performance for the years to come. People can't read what's coming. Unless they cloud with another 10 people and others can focus you before you get to the target.

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On 6/9/2021 at 10:44 AM, Aaron.1294 said:

@DKRathalos.9625Anet doesn't hate warriors... The problem is that they want to keep it as simple as possible. Sadly it only works for PvE so guess we're doomed in PvP and WvW 🙂

I really want to agree but i can’t. Especially when my smartwatch giving high heart rate alerts when i play it. Using a melee soulbeast for similar pve roles however, i don’t really break a sweat. It feels like every class other than warriors have an “I escape, tnx bye” button.  Making skill tooltips easier to read don’t necessarily make meta damage rotations any simpler.  I find berserkers’ high dps rotations are pretty darn intense. Almost as if i’m playing dragonforce’s speed metal songs on my keyboard with no mistake. 😂😂

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@Gorem.8104 actually i like how some guys said oh yea this class is op cause it could solo the entire boss ...... bruh in pve warrior is broken too .... actually only if you play it as tactics core pvp warr xD trust me you could easily solo clean champs or higher bosses on it. (only if you dodge right of course xd)

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