now what?

[Mugsie.4903]

Played for just over a year and the people i joined because of, virtually never play now.  They did tell me about GW2 Wiki which i've seemingly spent as much time going thru as trying to play this game.  Did not realize how limited solo mastery points are and now grouping is required to progress.  but my friends quit.  Be nice if there was some way to re-assign mastery points so that at least 1 track could be completed.  account wide, so the entire account is screwed.  also see that "stuff" is gated behind buy more content.  It appears that no agony resistance is required for L123 of fractals.  really loathing all the mario brothers* crap.  Maybe pvp is better in gw2 then wows, but that is like comparing getting shot with a 45 or a 357....either way sucks.  and after wow pvp, zero interest in trying anyone elses.  lots of rants, but if content pisses a customer off, sure go play something else, but why have CUSTOMERS pooping all over your game else where?

 

I'm sure a disclaimer in GW2 advertising would not help entice people in.   LOTS of EXACT jumping required.  REALLY great motor skills also required.  ALL the cool stuff is expensive, time gated and gated behind MUST BUY content.  Yep, basic game is free, but quality of life features like storage are not.  All the "make tons of gold" videos all presume finishing all the must buy content, but at that point....what's the point of 10's of thousands of gold?  

 

So i've run out of solo mastery points in the basic game, so doing more of that content to fill up the mastery experience bar is pointless.  finished PoF story so grinding hearts etc. SCREAMS boring to level up the remaining mount bars.  Leaves BUYING more content to access the gated Ascended crafting materials.  and the ramp up in difficulty is INSANE.

 

So perhaps AreaNet could post a link to a Wiki introduction to GW2 in their advertisement.  Let prospective players know WHERE they can go to read up and watch videos and get guild (need a group for a lot of content) information, BEFORE committing to a "profession" and diving in.  I feel that would make the ENTIRE experience vastly more enjoyable.

[Lizardguard.2860]

Hey there,
If you want to, you can add me ingame.
I should be around tomorrow towards the evening and maybe i can help you out with some of your problems.

Unrelated: Wiki is indeed a valuable source for this game, and while it sucks to have to look at it now and then, its also unrealistic to expect everything to be displayed at a glance.
Try using the chat command /wiki "Whatever you want to look for" ingame, maybe this will help you already.
For the Mastery points, asking in map chat for help often does the trick, if you cannot handle some bosses on your own. Maybe checking out some dedicated solo PvE builds might help as well.
Most jumping puzzles are objectively easy, just a few are either long/hard, so if you have a hard time with one, just move on to the next, or find a freindly mesmer who can help!

Regarding Fractals: This might be an unpopular opinion, but don´t worry too much about fractals. If you wanna get into high end pve, i´d rather go to strikes and raids before going to fractals. both are more fun and easier to gear for imo. You can drop ascended stuff or currency to get ascended stuff there, without needing ascended equipment.

[Vayne.8563]

Sounds to me like you need to make friends with a mesmer if the jumping stuff is a problem for you. Most of the stuff can be bypassed if that's your major problem.

 

But if you absolutely insist on soloing and that's it, that's on you.  Most people assume at some point in an MMO there'll be some group content.

[Tokugawa.1268]

You can get to Thunderhead peaks without buying the requisite Living World 4 story mission. Just do the DRM for Thunderpeaks and it unlocks it. That's how I ended up there completely on accident, lol

[Veprovina.4876]

5 hours ago, Mugsie.4903 said:

Played for just over a year and the people i joined because of, virtually never play now. 

That sucks, i know the feeling. My entire guild once quit GW2 to play another game, which i didn't want to play. I quit the game then because of that, it felt weird...

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They did tell me about GW2 Wiki which i've seemingly spent as much time going thru as trying to play this game.  Did not realize how limited solo mastery points are and now grouping is required to progress.  but my friends quit.  Be nice if there was some way to re-assign mastery points so that at least 1 track could be completed.  account wide, so the entire account is screwed.  also see that "stuff" is gated behind buy more content.

Most masteries can be done solo. And since there are more mastery points than required to master everything, you can just pick the ones that you can do easily over the ones that require grouping... You'll never "screw" your mastery point allocation, it's impossible.

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It appears that no agony resistance is required for L123 of fractals.

You can do entire Tier 1 fractals without agony resistance. Even the last T1 fractal, which requires some, can be done without. But by then, you'll probably have enough fractal currency and gold to buy some ascended stuff and agony infusions. It's really not that hard...

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really loathing all the mario brothers* crap. 

In fractals? Just type /gg when your party reaches the next checkpoint. Only 1 person needs to reach the checkpoint, everyone else can skip the super mario stuff if you want. Open world super mario stuff is optional and only "required" for some achievements.

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Maybe pvp is better in gw2 then wows, but that is like comparing getting shot with a 45 or a 357....either way sucks.  and after wow pvp, zero interest in trying anyone elses.  lots of rants, but if content pisses a customer off, sure go play something else, but why have CUSTOMERS pooping all over your game else where?

Not into PvP in this game so i can't comment.

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I'm sure a disclaimer in GW2 advertising would not help entice people in. 

Yeah, this game needs literally ANY advertising...

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LOTS of EXACT jumping required.

Not really, it's all optional. Where do you need to jump that's required? You can skip fractal jumping, and open world jumping, as i said, is totally optional. Mesmers are also a thing in this game, and so is the Prototype Position Rewinder. Wiki is your friend. 🙂 View it as kind of an official "help" for the game.

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REALLY great motor skills also required. 

Eehh, depends... You can reassign keys to fit your motor skills better, i did it and it helped a ton.

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ALL the cool stuff is expensive, time gated and gated behind MUST BUY content.  Yep, basic game is free, but quality of life features like storage are not. 

This game is NOT FREE. Didn't anyone ever hear of a "demo"? No? I'm just old?

The "base game" is free, but only to an extent, you still can't use some of the basic features even if you play the base game. This game is buy to play, meaning, just like every other game on Steam. The fact that "the base game is free" means you just got a huge demo to try the game out, and if you like it, you buy the entire game.

 

Plus, you picked a great time to paly because all the living world episodes are going to be free, just log in. So you don't have to buy those either. Just the expansions (which are what basically amounts to a full game, while the "base game" is just a demo).

 

QoL stuff can be bought with gold, as can everything on the gem store. You can convert gold to gems and vice versa. Most of it isn't even that expensive though the price varies as the conversion rate fluctuates.

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All the "make tons of gold" videos all presume finishing all the full game content, but at that point....what's the point of 10's of thousands of gold?  

Fixed that for you. "Must buy content" is actually the full game. You want to play idk, Cyberpunk on steam, you buy it. You want to play GW2 fully, you buy the full game. After you finish the "full game" you'll still have uses for gold, don't worry.

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So i've run out of solo mastery points in the basic game, so doing more of that content to fill up the mastery experience bar is pointless.  finished PoF story so grinding hearts etc. SCREAMS boring to level up the remaining mount bars.  Leaves BUYING more content to access the gated Ascended crafting materials.  and the ramp up in difficulty is INSANE.

Season 2 offers core tyria mastery points and it's free now.

Also, do the acheivements? Most require you to do world bosses that are literaly always full, just show up, hit the boss with autoattack the entire fight and get the mastery point, others are just awarded for completing the story. You can even solo dungeons with a good build...

If you're grinding hearts in PoF for experience, you're doing it wrong, you only grind them to unlock the vendor if you need it. I can't remember when i last finished a heart "just because" in PoF and i have all PoF masteries, including Skyscale.

Do events, do bounty trains, do meta trains use LFG, it's really not that difficult. You can level up one mastery in one meta train or so... You might even meet interesting people you like playing with, who knows.

The difficulty is adequate for highest level content. If you find it too difficult, you might want to check your build. Search for a solo build in your profession subforum, people will gladly help you.

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So perhaps AreaNet could post a link to a Wiki introduction to GW2 in their advertisement.  Let prospective players know WHERE they can go to read up and watch videos and get guild (need a group for a lot of content) information, BEFORE committing to a "profession" and diving in.  I feel that would make the ENTIRE experience vastly more enjoyable.

What this game needs is a short tutorial about how to use the /wiki command in game.

You can type /wiki in the chat, space, then shift-click on any item to automatically open up the wiki page for it to see what it's for and what its uses are. If more people knew that, they'd probably be way less confused about certain stuff.

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[Danger Ferret.6342]

19 minutes ago, Veprovina.4876 said:

That sucks, i know the feeling. My entire guild once quit GW2 to play another game, which i didn't want to play. I quit the game then because of that, it felt weird...

Most masteries can be done solo. And since there are more mastery points than required to master everything, you can just pick the ones that you can do easily over the ones that require grouping... You'll never "screw" your mastery point allocation, it's impossible.

You can do entire Tier 1 fractals without agony resistance. Even the last T1 fractal, which requires some, can be done without. But by then, you'll probably have enough fractal currency and gold to buy some ascended stuff and agony infusions. It's really not that hard...

In fractals? Just type /gg when your party reaches the next checkpoint. Only 1 person needs to reach the checkpoint, everyone else can skip the super mario stuff if you want. Open world super mario stuff is optional and only "required" for some achievements.

Not into PvP in this game so i can't comment.

Yeah, this game needs literally ANY advertising...

Not really, it's all optional. Where do you need to jump that's required? You can skip fractal jumping, and open world jumping, as i said, is totally optional. Mesmers are also a thing in this game, and so is the Prototype Position Rewinder. Wiki is your friend. 🙂 View it as kind of an official "help" for the game.

Eehh, depends... You can reassign keys to fit your motor skills better, i did it and it helped a ton.

This game is NOT FREE. Didn't anyone ever hear of a "demo"? No? I'm just old?

The "base game" is free, but only to an extent, you still can't use some of the basic features even if you play the base game. This game is buy to play, meaning, just like every other game on Steam. The fact that "the base game is free" means you just got a huge demo to try the game out, and if you like it, you buy the entire game.

 

Plus, you picked a great time to paly because all the living world episodes are going to be free, just log in. So you don't have to buy those either. Just the expansions (which are what basically amounts to a full game, while the "base game" is just a demo).

 

QoL stuff can be bought with gold, as can everything on the gem store. You can convert gold to gems and vice versa. Most of it isn't even that expensive though the price varies as the conversion rate fluctuates.

Fixed that for you. "Must buy content" is actually the full game. You want to play idk, Cyberpunk on steam, you buy it. You want to play GW2 fully, you buy the full game. After you finish the "full game" you'll still have uses for gold, don't worry.

Season 2 offers core tyria mastery points and it's free now.

Also, do the acheivements? Most require you to do world bosses that are literaly always full, just show up, hit the boss with autoattack the entire fight and get the mastery point, others are just awarded for completing the story. You can even solo dungeons with a good build...

If you're grinding hearts in PoF for experience, you're doing it wrong, you only grind them to unlock the vendor if you need it. I can't remember when i last finished a heart "just because" in PoF and i have all PoF masteries, including Skyscale.

Do events, do bounty trains, do meta trains use LFG, it's really not that difficult. You can level up one mastery in one meta train or so... You might even meet interesting people you like playing with, who knows.

The difficulty is adequate for highest level content. If you find it too difficult, you might want to check your build. Search for a solo build in your profession subforum, people will gladly help you.

What this game needs is a short tutorial about how to use the /wiki command in game.

You can type /wiki in the chat, space, then shift-click on any item to automatically open up the wiki page for it to see what it's for and what its uses are. If more people knew that, they'd probably be way less confused about certain stuff.

ArenaNet should offer you a job. Seriously. This post was a great explainer to help diffuse frustrations for newer players. I wish I'd had it to read it when I first started.

[Veprovina.4876]

8 hours ago, Danger Ferret.6342 said:

ArenaNet should offer you a job. Seriously. This post was a great explainer to help diffuse frustrations for newer players. I wish I'd had it to read it when I first started.

Thank you! 😃

Yeah, the amount of stuff in this game can be overwhelming at times, and some systems aren't explained the best in game.

At the very least, the /wiki command should be tutorialized, i think that a lot of players would find it helpful early on.

[Sobx.1758]

14 hours ago, Mugsie.4903 said:

Played for just over a year and the people i joined because of, virtually never play now.  They did tell me about GW2 Wiki which i've seemingly spent as much time going thru as trying to play this game.  Did not realize how limited solo mastery points are and now grouping is required to progress.  but my friends quit.  Be nice if there was some way to re-assign mastery points so that at least 1 track could be completed.  account wide, so the entire account is screwed.  also see that "stuff" is gated behind buy more content.  It appears that no agony resistance is required for L123 of fractals.  really loathing all the mario brothers* crap.  Maybe pvp is better in gw2 then wows, but that is like comparing getting shot with a 45 or a 357....either way sucks.  and after wow pvp, zero interest in trying anyone elses.  lots of rants, but if content pisses a customer off, sure go play something else, but why have CUSTOMERS pooping all over your game else where?

 

I'm sure a disclaimer in GW2 advertising would not help entice people in.   LOTS of EXACT jumping required.  REALLY great motor skills also required.  ALL the cool stuff is expensive, time gated and gated behind MUST BUY content.  Yep, basic game is free, but quality of life features like storage are not.  All the "make tons of gold" videos all presume finishing all the must buy content, but at that point....what's the point of 10's of thousands of gold?  

 

So i've run out of solo mastery points in the basic game, so doing more of that content to fill up the mastery experience bar is pointless.  finished PoF story so grinding hearts etc. SCREAMS boring to level up the remaining mount bars.  Leaves BUYING more content to access the gated Ascended crafting materials.  and the ramp up in difficulty is INSANE.

 

So perhaps AreaNet could post a link to a Wiki introduction to GW2 in their advertisement.  Let prospective players know WHERE they can go to read up and watch videos and get guild (need a group for a lot of content) information, BEFORE committing to a "profession" and diving in.  I feel that would make the ENTIRE experience vastly more enjoyable.

Basically you want to rush through the content but at the same time you complain about difficulty ramp up. If you slow down and think for a moment, you might notice how your goals and expectations work against each other.

 

Most of the mastery points are achievable by running solo. For others you can easly join random lfg groups and still get them without a problem. If you don't like grinding, you don't need to, but this is still an mmorpg, at least here you don't have the gear treadmill, so you don't need to be worried about constantly grinding to stay relevant -if that's still not enough, then I don't know what mmorpgs you were playing before that to develop the expectations you're describing here.

 

That "must buy content" (living world seasons, I assume?) is currently becoming temporarily free every week. We're currently on the season 2 episodes 5 and 6 (which you can still get for free for the next... 6 days or so). You've picked a weird time to complain about this one tbh 😛

[Zereqiel.8249]

i did all masteries solo. youtube and tekkit taco are all i needed. the must buy content is getting "re-relased" for free. you just need to log in once very week. that shouldnt be hard. i also abhor.the jumping puzzles. i found a yt vid that skips majority of the jumping parts but it required a skyscale. so i got that and breezed through it all.

[Tiamat.8254]

I think the only jumping puzzle that really irked me was the one in Gendarren Fields. But managed with a mesmer and necromancer, albeit very slowly. And then the jumping goggles 😱

[Mugsie.4903]

on part 7 of season 2 now.  HATING every bit of it, but a source of mastery points which is the only reason i am still forcing myself thru this garbage.  joined a guild, but discord required and i could not get it to work, so quit that guild.  discord kept refusing to validate my e-mail and phone number which i have had for almost 2 decades.  more garbage.  tough to join a dungeon/raid/fractal group when they require voice chat.  oh well.  most of regular content is fun, but i do hate all the jumping crap.  my fingers do not work as well being almost 70.

[Vayne.8563]

6 minutes ago, Mugsie.4903 said:

on part 7 of season 2 now.  HATING every bit of it, but a source of mastery points which is the only reason i am still forcing myself thru this garbage.  joined a guild, but discord required and i could not get it to work, so quit that guild.  discord kept refusing to validate my e-mail and phone number which i have had for almost 2 decades.  more garbage.  tough to join a dungeon/raid/fractal group when they require voice chat.  oh well.  most of regular content is fun, but i do hate all the jumping crap.  my fingers do not work as well being almost 70.

I have a lot of older people in my guild including quite a few over 70. If you want help with the stuff you're having problems with, hit me up in game. I'm 59 myself and I'm happy to help people get through stuff.

That said, it would go a lot faster if we could get voice to work. 

[Veprovina.4876]

10 hours ago, Mugsie.4903 said:

on part 7 of season 2 now.  HATING every bit of it, but a source of mastery points which is the only reason i am still forcing myself thru this garbage.  joined a guild, but discord required and i could not get it to work, so quit that guild.  discord kept refusing to validate my e-mail and phone number which i have had for almost 2 decades.  more garbage.  tough to join a dungeon/raid/fractal group when they require voice chat.  oh well.  most of regular content is fun, but i do hate all the jumping crap.  my fingers do not work as well being almost 70.

Just curious... What jumping stuff are you having problems with? What are you trying to accomplish?

Also, if you need help, there's a lot of people that would love to help.

Just post your region here, is it EU or NA? Cause, you can't play with the "other" region, so post what region you're in so people know they can join you.

 

Also, did you check this out?

 

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Prototype_Position_Rewinder

 

It saved me a lot of sanity when attempting the jumping puzzles, and i've been able to complete the most difficult ones with it, and i'm not a great jumper either.

 

Another thing i recommend if you're intent on doing jumping puzzles, but it's also a great help in general is TacO.

 

http://www.gw2taco.com/

 

Also, download and put in Taco folder this (there's a guide on the page on how to do it, it's easy):

http://tekkitsworkshop.net/index.php/gw2-taco/download

 

This will overlay markers and routes over your game in the exact 3D adaptive way, so as you play, you can just follow the markers and arrows. It has routes for map completion, festivals, jumping puzzles, collections like Skyscale, Gleam of Sentience, farming routes, you name it. It's amazing!

 

Every jumping puzzle i finished, i finished with this.

 

I'm not sure it works in fractals, but fractals are just repetition, you can learn them in a few tries, or party with someone who already knows what to do.

 

It supposedly works for raids but i don't raid so haven't tried it.

 

It's an amazing tool to help you and i highly recommend it!

 

About discord - did you try contacting Discord help? I know it's probably more trouble than it's worth, but for some (and i say this with the biggest quotes ever) "advanced content" like raids or WvW, it's really helpful to have a voice chat so you can coordinate with your team. And if you plan to do either, most will require a Discord.

Though - you can try to find a guild that uses Teamspeak. TS doesn't require you to log in with an email or anything, you can just log in as guest. One of my WvW guidls uses TS exclusively and it's perfecly fine.

 

Also who requires voice chat for fractals lol, they're not rocket science, i completed most of my runs with random people most of which didn't even have enough Agony Resistance... Oh well...

 

Anyway...

 

Which region are you in, post it so that people can help you if you want. There's a lot of helpful people in this game.

Also, use TacO, it's amazing!

[Khisanth.2948]

On 6/9/2021 at 10:51 AM, Tiamat.8254 said:

I think the only jumping puzzle that really irked me was the one in Gendarren Fields. But managed with a mesmer and necromancer, albeit very slowly. And then the jumping goggles 😱

That is one of the handful of JPs that actually requires a significant amount of precise jumping. The majority of JPs do not or have maybe 1 or 2 jumps(Aetherblade JP has at least 10) .