Revenant elite spec for end of dragons

[Aeolus.3615]

melee longbow or main hand shield.

 

 

jk asside, will be daggers or GS i was pondering a rifle but 2 spec tied to range while shiro needs  good friend to pair with... so ence the dagger or gs setup.

It will be something mobility based shiro is a bit to heavy e-management.

Edited July 21, 2021 by Aeolus.3615

[Telgum.6071]

11 hours ago, serow.6524 said:

I want Greatsword as a ranged spellcaster. A Legend that full-on casts elemental attacks through the GS. 

I really would like this. I'll raise it to a legend that allows you to switch between ranged and melee mode.

 

Just bring Balthazar legend and his sword, which was both ranged and melee.

[Dadnir.5038]

On 7/21/2021 at 6:47 AM, LucianTheAngelic.7054 said:

I don’t think anyone can make this claim about Glint since both her and her legacy are of central importance to both ls2/HoT/LS3. Tarir is explicitly created to serve Glint’s Legacy.  Maguuma definitely had big ties to Glint because of this.  Glint is definitely more expansion relevant than say, Chronomancer. 
 

Renegade definitely isn’t relevant to PoF though, outside of a few thematic similarities. I’d say it’s about 50/50 whether or not the next legend will be Canthan related or not 

 

You could say that renegade is relevant to PoF because PoF is about Krakaltoric and Krakaltoric have a lot to do with the chaars. So it made sense that a chaar legend come to give a hand against him.

[Fueki.4753]

4 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said:

 

You could say that renegade is relevant to PoF because PoF is about Krakaltoric and Krakaltoric have a lot to do with the chaars. So it made sense that a chaar legend come to give a hand against him.

Yet Kalla is completely unrelated to the Kralkatorrik problem.

Her legend is all about the rebellion against the Flame Legion and the freedom of the Charr women.

 

Saying that Kalla has something to do with Kralkatorrik merely because she's Charr is like saying Shiro has something to do with Kralkatorrik because he is human.

Edited July 22, 2021 by Fueki.4753

[Aeolus.3615]

3 hours ago, Dadnir.5038 said:

 

You could say that renegade is relevant to PoF because PoF is about Krakaltoric and Krakaltoric have a lot to do with the chaars. So it made sense that a chaar legend come to give a hand against him.

 

Well being lore friendly there should be more renegades way before Uncle trombone became a Herald.

Being LS after PoF towards renegades and charr lore, kinda makes sense to get a renegade to players for PoF(since we gained nothing in this so called expantion level living story!!!! 🥴).

 

Turai, Nika, Vizu, Togo, even Kanaxai for a axe axe build wich make rev players play it only if its condi broken, so wont be popular to play it unless that.

 

 

Envoy's  stance based utilites while legend being tied to the celestial dragon.

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by Aeolus.3615

[Touchme.1097]

I want to see double GS Revenant Elite spec with Giant stance, I bet the animations would look fantastic, this is the kind of GS power build Rev deserves.

[Dadnir.5038]

1 hour ago, Fueki.4753 said:

Yet Kalla is completely unrelated to the Kralkatorrik problem.

Her legend is all about the rebellion against the Flame Legion and the freedom of the Charr women.

 

Saying that Kalla has something to do with Kralkatorrik merely because she's Charr is like saying Shiro has something to do with Kralkatoriik because he is human.

I would say that you give to much importance to the tale and not enough to the identity.

 

Kalla is character that led the chaar to what they are now, it feel natural that she make use of the revenant as a springboard to help the chaars in their current predicament. Bringing the fight to krakaltoric is a nice opportunity for her to be more "active" as a helper so that what she strive in her life isn't reduced to cristals by a hungry flying lizard.

 

45 minutes ago, Aeolus.3615 said:

Turai, Nika, Vizu, Togo, even Kanaxai for a axe axe build wich make rev players play it only if its condi broken, so wont be popular to play it unless that.

 

From my point of view it will depend on the situation in Cantha.

 

I doubt any of these human characters will make it to the legend, as for Kanaxai, it's like the white mantle, it's a convenient foe to bring back and thus might be inappropriate to have as a legend.

 

For a Human legend, it could be someone that managed to bring together the luxon and the kurzik bringing an end to their everlasting fight. This legend would wield both the spear of archemorus and the urn of saint viktor. Could make something pretty nice.

 

But you could have a naga legend, a tengu legend, ... etc. Or even something that feel totally ridiculous like an Asura legend due to the fact that the asura are the one that have been the most invested into bringing an end to the dragon and the title of the expansion is literally: "End of Dragon".

[Grand Marshal.4098]

MH axe, Legendary Mursaat Stance, Power focused. Optimus Caliph channeled, name Subjugator. 

Edited July 24, 2021 by Grand Marshal.4098

[Buran.3796]

   I dreamed that EoD was released and our new spec legend was Shiro, which provided us quickness on demand and featured as a new weapon an off hand sword with blocks...  I woke up drenched in sweat: was only a nightmare...

[Savoren.3910]

I'm not really interested in any weapon other than a greatsword for the next elite spec. I would love to have a revenant elite spec that uses greatsword as it's main weapon and focuses on melee power dps. Balthazar or Asgeir would work perfectly as a legend for that elite spec, but I wouldn't mind if Anet came up with a tengu hero we haven't heard of before either.

[GonzoNeo.4965]

GS with Menzies legend. So we can have our Balthazar twin legend without break the plot pre-path of fire.

 

Flying GS  using the Balthazar animations, instead Fire, we use shadow theme attacks. The reason to "Help us" is truce with the mortal races until we died for thanks kill Balthazar and because he is boref now that can conquest Foe easily.

 

 

[Fueki.4753]

6 hours ago, GonzoNeo.4965 said:

GS with Menzies legend. So we can have our Balthazar twin legend without break the plot pre-path of fire.

 

Flying GS  using the Balthazar animations, instead Fire, we use shadow theme attacks. The reason to "Help us" is truce with the mortal races until we died for thanks kill Balthazar and because he is boref now that can conquest Foe easily.

 

 

Or he could be channelled unwillingly, like Shiro or Mallyx.

[draxynnic.3719]

We'll possibly see what it is within the next 12 hours, so it's not worth arguing about - but I really hope that they pick a solid legend first and choose the weapon to fit rather than choosing a weapon and then trying to find a legend to fit the weapon.

 

And for any future revenant elite specialisations going forward.

[GonzoNeo.4965]

5 hours ago, Fueki.4753 said:

Or he could be channelled unwillingly, like Shiro or Mallyx.

I would like he help us willingly being a evil god would be a good twist. And he have a lot of reason to be happy with us. We basically killed Balthazar and did a  better job than all his Shadow/demon army in Guild Wars 1.

[Fueki.4753]

1 hour ago, GonzoNeo.4965 said:

I would like he help us willingly being a evil god would be a good twist. And he have a lot of reason to be happy with us. We basically killed Balthazar and did a  better job than all his Shadow/demon army in Guild Wars 1.

We killed a massively powered down version of Balthazar though.

It's likely that the Balthazar we fought had just a tiny fraction of the power he possessed in his prime.

[Mediahead.3542]

I posted here some time ago, but frankly I don't care what weapon(s) it gets, I just want a golemancer-themed revenant

[vilesoldier.9826]

After a fairly considerable focus on "breaking rules" when mentioning new elite specs and even with the new spec Virtuoso (tho to be fair "no clones" feels more like a sidestep than a break), I'm going to go out on a limb and say that we could be gearing up for a Rev elite with more than 3 utilities. 

 

definitely a stretch goal, but more options makes me a happy rev

Edited July 27, 2021 by GeneralBM.5781

[SidewayS.3789]

If we look at this image : https://preview.redd.it/xbzon8xixsd71.png?width=731&format=png&auto=webp&s=282cdceed3900d88495edd0e0846995e6e213d63

 

We can see that eye for reve and little daggers. So we will get dagger/dagger. I hope it will be a power elite spec.

[Oldyoung.6109]

https://i.imgur.com/6FOXB2M.png

 

looks more like this than dagger imho.

[Datarus.9871]

I hope for true summoning e-spec. Summiong other (core) legends as mist creatures to help you in battles. 

 

[Kodama.6453]

6 hours ago, Oldyoung.6109 said:

https://i.imgur.com/6FOXB2M.png

 

looks more like this than dagger imho.

This symbol is so highly stylised that many different people can see alot of different things in it, haha.

 

I personally see it as a vajra, which is a ritual weapon used in Buddhism and Hinduism, so I thought that revenant might become a ritualist with focus as their weapon this time. Maybe with Master Togo as their legend.

[genjonah.1253]

I’d love Togo, but I’d actually rather see Razah as the legend, maybe even Xei Ri. And what’s with the warhorn hate? I’d like one haha

[ScottBroChill.3254]

So does anyone in their right mind think rev isnt getting a ritualist-esque profession? the logo is definitely a combo of rit and rev, id be highly suprised if they used that logo and didn't apply it to rev. Plus, a lot of rev players from gw1 are banking on it, anet would be shooting themeselves in the foot if they gave it to say, guard, and not rev. Tthe big argument was whether rev or necro were gonna get it, lily has championed hard for necro to get it but we now know necro is definitely not getting it now. I think its pretty plain and clear, but i guess we'll have to wait for the preview to know for a shadow of a doubt. Praise be the lordt its razah and channeling magic tho. 

[draxynnic.3719]

3 hours ago, ScottBroChill.3254 said:

So does anyone in their right mind think rev isnt getting a ritualist-esque profession? the logo is definitely a combo of rit and rev, id be highly suprised if they used that logo and didn't apply it to rev. Plus, a lot of rev players from gw1 are banking on it, anet would be shooting themeselves in the foot if they gave it to say, guard, and not rev. Tthe big argument was whether rev or necro were gonna get it, lily has championed hard for necro to get it but we now know necro is definitely not getting it now. I think its pretty plain and clear, but i guess we'll have to wait for the preview to know for a shadow of a doubt. Praise be the lordt its razah and channeling magic tho. 

Rev already had a ritualist-esque elite specialisation. Renegade. It just has charr-associated graphics rather than classic ritualist graphics.

 

And that's as close as revenant can ever realistically become to ritualist. It's always going to revert to spending a substantial amount of time using one of the core legends, which means a melee-oriented legend unless you go support with Ventari. I'd also note that one of the strengths of ritualist was that you could pick and choose from a wide range of skills - anyone looking for ritualist to come out of revenant where it would be one fixed set of five utilities is just doomed to disappointment. Literally any other profession would be a better chassis for reintroducing ritualist than revenant.

 

Revenant is its own profession with its own lore, themes, and playstyle. It deserves to grow on its own.

[draxynnic.3719]

Now that I've got a bit of time, let's break this down.

 

First, the ritualist symbol can be viewed here.

 

It's a fairly simple symbol. The outline of the eye is formed by two crescents, which cross over at the corners of the eye in a manner that's reminiscent of certain makeup styles. The pupil/iris is a circle at the centre. It's all curves, apart from the points of the crescents.

 

Similarly, the core revenant symbol can be viewed here.

 

This symbol is more jagged and complex. The upper part is all straight edges and corners. The pupil is represented by a triangle shape, with a long spike extending downwards from the pupil. The bottom part of the eye is the only significantly curved region, albeit with the bottom of the curve interrupted by the aforementioned spike.

 

In comparison with the elite specialisation symbol, the central eye is pretty clearly closer to the revenant style. The upper portion has an extra bend near each end, the lower curved sections now have bends that appear to fold under the upper section, and instead of the triangular pupil with a spike, there's a single inverted triangle to represent the pupil. It's pretty clearly a modification of the revenant eye symbol, and that's why the general consensus is that it's the revenant elite specialisation.

 

I think it's double dipping to claim that it's an eye, and therefore it's revenant, but also that it's an eye, and therefore it's ritualist. The central eye part bears about as little resemblance to the ritualist eye as two different stylised representations of an eye can.

 

Now, we do have those extra bits on the top and bottom, which some people have likened to insectoid mandibles. Now, if those extra bits had been on the sides, in an equivalent position to the 'makeup lines' on the ritualist icon, then maybe that would be conclusive. But they're not. I guess an argument could be made that if you tipped the ritualist icon on its side, cut off the makeup lines, and placed the revenant eye in the place of the ritualist eye's pupil, you'd get something somewhat close to the elite specialisation symbol... but I think that's a really big stretch. The top and bottom bits appear to be separate elements (even if they have some degree of symmetry) rather than being parts of the same crescent just obscured by the central revenant eye, and the 'makeup lines' formed by the crossover of the crescents - which is one of the main things that distinguishes the ritualist symbol from other depictions of eyes in the Guild Wars universe - are completely missing. If the intent really was to be reminiscent of the GW1 ritualist symbol, then suffice it to say that they could have made it a LOT clearer with fairly minor modifications.

 

And again, revenant is meant to be its own thing, not a refugee camp for ritualist players who don't like the aesthetics of engineer. Path of Fire didn't have any elite specialisations that were bending over backwards trying to revive dervish or paragon, after all.