Buff grieving and berserker Amulett

[Avatar.3568]

Since February 2020,i try to make a build with the grieving Amulett, 1k power 500 precision , 500 ferocity and 1k condi. 

Since this build has no sustain, it's comparable to berserker, but the dmg that it's outputting is to low. 

Where ever I use it, a pure berserker version works better even with the same sustain. Because the power scaling is atm waaay to low, running demolished and marauder is the same thing but they have at least defensiv stats. 

 

Idk raise ferocity for berserker and grieving both for 500? Than we still would have marauder and demo and paladin as defense power amuletts, berserker would be more offensive but also more high risk high reward and we could have an end of the bunkers

Edited July 26, 2021 by Avatar.3568

[DanAlcedo.3281]

Serious question. 

 

Has there ever been a build with grieving gear (all game modes) that was actually good? 

 

 

[Khalisto.5780]

It s not the amulet, you can't trait to have power condi and sustain.

[Blood Red Arachnid.2493]

20 hours ago, DanAlcedo.3281 said:

Serious question. 

 

Has there ever been a build with grieving gear (all game modes) that was actually good? 

 

 

 

In PVE there's two:  Firebrand and Weaver.  Both of their griever builds have competitive DPS with all of the others.  

[The Fear.3865]

21 hours ago, DanAlcedo.3281 said:

Serious question. 

 

Has there ever been a build with grieving gear (all game modes) that was actually good? 

 

 

The best PvE Weaver build is actually 11/14 grieving, it's basically the only class who can benefit from it. 

[Avatar.3568]

21 hours ago, Khalisto.5780 said:

It s not the amulet, you can't trait to have power condi and sustain.

Ofc you can, there are also multiple weapon sets that do both, on core ele and core Ranger I have kinda working builds, but non of them is competetiv since they loosing to much dmg spikes and can't survive longer 

[Genesis.5169]

You guys should ask your self is there an actual good condition build in pvp?

Even in the so called hay day of condition OP there were only 2 classes that were better in condition and one of them was arguable.

 

Which was Mesmer/and Burn Guardian.

And both of them had equally or better power specs.

And Mesmer at the time was very arguable with power shatter vs mirage.

What you should ask for is the reversion of the condition changes out of the game.

Edited July 27, 2021 by Genesis.5169

[Avatar.3568]

37 minutes ago, Genesis.5169 said:

You guys should ask your self is there an actual good condition build in pvp?

Even in the so called hay day of condition OP there were only 2 classes that were better in condition and one of them was arguable.

 

Which was Mesmer/and Burn Guardian.

And both of them had equally or better power specs.

And Mesmer at the time was very arguable with power shatter vs mirage.

What you should ask for is the reversion of the condition changes out of the game.

Fireweaver, Condi Rev, condi Thief and condi necro, Condi scourge, all last year and some currently. In the past we had even more before

[Genesis.5169]

6 hours ago, Avatar.3568 said:

Fireweaver, Condi Rev, condi Thief and condi necro, Condi scourge, all last year and some currently. In the past we had even more before

Power was still better, Condition rev last year was not OP at all people cried that it was, thief never ever had a good condition build.

Ill give you condition scourge but that was for other reasons like complete area denial.

Fire weavers don't exist they are traited to heal with water almost 100% of the time, if your were going to outright kill people back then it was Fresh air.

 

There was never ever a condition meta, there was never a time where condition was prevalent but the forums sure made it seem so.

[Khalisto.5780]

10 hours ago, Avatar.3568 said:

Ofc you can, there are also multiple weapon sets that do both, on core ele and core Ranger I have kinda working builds, but non of them is competetiv since they loosing to much dmg spikes and can't survive longer 

What i meant is, you can but it won't work, this will make you lack on one of those things, if not all of them, which end up being better to focus on just 2 of them.

[Avatar.3568]

3 hours ago, Khalisto.5780 said:

What i meant is, you can but it won't work, this will make you lack on one of those things, if not all of them, which end up being better to focus on just 2 of them.

There are good enaugh to kill bad people but not do anything against mediocre people

[Unknown.6851]

I like both of these amulets, I do wish grieving had more condition damage but until they allow us to customize our own amulets in PvP this is almost as good as it gets.

[Leonidrex.5649]

hybrids dont work, and glass cannon condi builds dont work, which is why grieving wont work as an amulet
there isnt many ways that can buff both condi and power damage ( mostly vuln and might )
you could try condi soulbeast as it has very good power damage traits
10% crit and damage from sides
10% after dodge
5% after hard CC
7% when you have fury ( 100% uptime )
10% when you have more HP then the enemy
and all of those despite going full condi, but even then the power damage wont be all that good, and you would be better off with carrion/rabid which lets you actually live long enough to see the condi actually deal its damage.

I also dont think buffing amulets will fix anything, classes that rely on those amulets will take them, and just slot more tankyness in their builds, and those that cant afford to take berserker and cant compensate with traits will just get kittened.
just fix the traits and skills, amulets are not the problem.
And if they want berserker like amulet for condi they could do something like carrion but with less HP and more power and condi
~500 vit
~1100 power
~1400 condi
I would use it on many builds.