floppypuppy.5789 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 The siege turtle mentioned in the livestream has great potential, but it definitely needs player collision and knockback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkpile.7439 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Maybe it could be like artillerys in world of tanks. Player could shoot missiles from spawn and one hit blob other side of map. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredevil.2745 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) It will move across maps and players will have to defend or kill the turtle. When turtle reaches any gate, it oneshots the gate and moving to the next gate. All current sieges are deleted with the introduction of a turtle. Pleyrs will not be able to sit on arrow carts all day long, you eiter kill enemy turtle or your precius SM will be opened for open field fight. The more skilled players win. Low skill servers like Aurora Glade, Drakkaer Lake, Desolation and Piken will be destoyed with the introduction of a turtle, becasue they will have to fight while not being skilled enough for that. Edited July 27, 2021 by Daredevil.2745 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I bet: It takes less damage from players and siege (like Iron Hide, and will stack with Iron Hide) Will be SLOW AF Can damage Walls and gates, but takes supply Can't be unmounted by Warclaw Lance Can carry other players Other player's can fire canon with their supply Forums will QQ hard and its damage reduction and siege attack will be nerfed to nothing because we cannot have nice things apparently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floppypuppy.5789 Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: I bet: It takes less damage from players and siege (like Iron Hide, and will stack with Iron Hide) Will be SLOW AF Can damage Walls and gates, but takes supply Can't be unmounted by Warclaw Lance Can carry other players Other player's can fire canon with their supply Forums will QQ hard and its damage reduction and siege attack will be nerfed to nothing because we cannot have nice things apparently. Well, I'm actually hoping for smash up derby Siege Turtles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroud.2307 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I'm having an internal battle between "this is gonna be cool af", and "why do you torture us, ANet?" If I can some how use it to pester blobs while solo, I'll be over the moon. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) sounds like a mobile arrow cart, a joke i made a while ago. Edited July 27, 2021 by Stand The Wall.6987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Stand The Wall.6987 said: sounds like a mobile arrow cart, a joke i made a while ago. I bet it will be more like a mobile catapult though. GASP, what if it where a mobile platform that you could build any siege on?!?!?! Mobile Trebuchets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigo.9037 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Anet needs to remove EWP or increase the cooldown of EWP by like 200%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: I bet it will be more like a mobile catapult though. GASP, what if it where a mobile platform that you could build any siege on?!?!?! Mobile Trebuchets. stahp lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derlistigeuhu.1658 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Why anyone here thinks the Siege Turtle is a WvW thing? Did I miss the announcement on this? It sounded like a new PvE mount. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikory.6871 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, derlistigeuhu.1658 said: Why anyone here thinks the Siege Turtle is a WvW thing? Did I miss the announcement on this? It sounded like a new PvE mount. The wording of the first beta weekend. Something like "you'll be able to play with the elite specs and the siege turtle in existing pve content, wvw, and pvp". I doubt its a WvW mount but i dno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, Zikory.6871 said: The wording of the first beta weekend. Something like "you'll be able to play with the elite specs and the siege turtle in existing pve content, wvw, and pvp". I doubt its a WvW mount but i dno. That might as well imply the siege turtle is for sPvP. Which I highly doubt, meaning the sentence is quite loosely connected on what belongs where. Regardless if this is for WvW its yet another "why the kitten do you invent new things when we havent even gotten the old things" moment. There's already a perfectly good golem model thats never been used in WvW that could be made into a mobile artillery variant. But having seen the clip of it while writing this, its obvious it has nothing to do with WvW. Its a PvE mount. You dont "explore the map" in WvW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash.9213 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 13 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: That might as well imply the siege turtle is for sPvP. Which I highly doubt, meaning the sentence is quite loosely connected on what belongs where. Regardless if this is for WvW its yet another "why the kitten do you invent new things when we havent even gotten the old things" moment. There's already a perfectly good golem model thats never been used in WvW that could be made into a mobile artillery variant. But having seen the clip of it while writing this, its obvious it has nothing to do with WvW. Its a PvE mount. You dont "explore the map" in WvW. I can't imagine it would be for open pve instead of WvW unless it's another pve map with quasi WvW mechanics. But then you're probably right since a multiple player mount can make money off of skins on the store. I can definitely imagine Anet saying something like "explore the map" in a WvW add being tone def to just how small and routine this mode ends up being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Marshal.4098 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I hope siege turtles are the first step to mount combat for any content. Now imagine the warclaws with ammunition lances range attacking while running, without dismounting unless the players chooses the correct ammunition for the lances. Then you get both a light (warclaw) and a heavy (siege turtle) mount to fight. Unless siege turtles are the tip of the iceberg and a full 5 man party mount is brought over, as well as the TB Tanks we used in IBS. That plus the very light Dune rollers which already exists as tanks. perfection. World of Tanks for wvw pls xd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenesisII.1540 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Just a few years ago we were mad and rejected mobile cannons, oh how times have changed. 🤭 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAlcedo.3281 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 If you Need 2 players to even use the cannons, can be dismounted by the warclaw and killed. + Only mount up ooc. I could see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, derlistigeuhu.1658 said: Why anyone here thinks the Siege Turtle is a WvW thing? Did I miss the announcement on this? It sounded like a new PvE mount. Because of the name and because it makes sense. There isn't a single PvE mount that makes sense in WvW: Raptor: we have Warclaw Rabbit: could jump over walls Jackal: there are no sand portals Skimmer: simply useless Roller Beetle: maps aren't big enough Flying mounts: self-explanatory But a mount which main ability seems to be SIEGING structures? Which also is presumably slow so it can't be used to travel or escape from enemies? Add something like supply requirements or 30-60s CD to mount on it and you have a perfect mount for WvW that can be used to take down walls and gates. Edited July 28, 2021 by Telgum.6071 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Telgum.6071 said: Because of the name and because it makes sense. There isn't a single PvE mount that makes sense in WvW: Raptor: we have Warclaw Rabbit: could jump over walls Jackal: there are no sand portals Skimmer: simply useless Roller Beetle: maps aren't big enough Flying mounts: self-explanatory But a mount which main ability seems to be SIEGING structures? Which also is presumably slow so it can't be used to travel or escape from enemies? Add something like supply requirements or 30-60s CD to mount on it and you have a perfect mount for WvW that can be used to take down walls and gates. Except its a GW1 thing. Which didnt have WvW. Its a PvE mount 99% certain. If you want to know why then more than likely they are expanding the "prototype" PvEvWvW Drizzlewood map into larger scale maps that probably involves assaulting Canthan fortresses. Edited July 28, 2021 by Dawdler.8521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telgum.6071 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Dawdler.8521 said: Except its a GW1 thing I fail to see how is this an impediment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Telgum.6071 said: I fail to see how is this an impediment. You where talking about the "name" and how it "makes sense". If it was in GW1, it literally dont in relation to WvW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Trejgon.2809 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Dawdler.8521 said: You where talking about the "name" and how it "makes sense". If it was in GW1, it literally dont in relation to WvW. SIEGE turtle. where else you can actually "siege" things? theme: a giant turtle with huge guns on it's back, mobile artillery bits. even if you ignore where it was used before, those seems fitting to wvw setting. As for where it was actually used, well they were mainly seen in two places: canthan story (pve) and canthan PvP modes. One of which is precedessor to current conquest mode, and other is precedessor to, lo and behold, WvW. Not to mention same expansion giving alliance battles, which again was conceptually pretty darn close to what wvw ended to be. That being said I dunno if they would actually do it, as there are some... technicalities, that would need to be worked around to even think of making it work. So I think I will await for more info before I get hyped.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawdler.8521 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lord Trejgon.2809 said: SIEGE turtle. where else you can actually "siege" things? ... in PvE. Drizzlewood literally have WvW siege brought over to PvE. If its going to be available in WvW then oh boy are people going to be disappointed because you know we can already siege with our mounts right? Its absolute garbage. Its not going to make normal siege redundant because that would severely imbalance WvW - its just going to be a complete waste of supplies. And I am still 99% certain its PvE only. Edited July 28, 2021 by Dawdler.8521 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stand The Wall.6987 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 yo maybe they bringin back jade quarry + fort aspenwood. that would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Well the 'siege' that the current mount does is only to gates. If we get a second mount in WvW, I'd like it to be able to hit the walls. Also, getting JQ and FA back would be freaking sweet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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