Sunshine.5014 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Since Pistol is already taken by Necro, Ele only has a couple choices left: Mace, Rifle, Torch, Short Bow. Other weapons either are existed or conjurable. Among Mace, Rifle, Short Bow, the last one is the most plausible. Mace is a pure melee weapon, which Ele already has with Weaver Sword. Rifle is just not thematic with Ele. Torch is out because they can't make Water Attunement to work. Short Bow is now the best candidate. Conclusion: go buy your Short Bow precursor before it shooting up in price like Pistol precursor today. Edited July 28, 2021 by Sunshine.5014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downstate.4697 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Ice bow is a short bow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) Aye already have shortbow. I don't have much faith in conjured weapons becoming spec weapons so Axe, Shortbow, Hammer and Greatsword are weapons I'd be confident in ruling out although i'm not going to be adamant about it lol I think Longbow is more likely than Shortbow in this regard which would also be the better choice imo. Adding to that if Ele does get Longbow it will be the only!! light armour profession in the game that can actually use this weapon. The same is true for Shortbow too but again, conjured weapons do technically allow for Ele and other light professions to pick up and use one. Edited July 28, 2021 by Teratus.2859 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Well the "icons" dose look like a bow of some type. We are not sure that is ele or realty who is who but some one getting a bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elchicoque.1705 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I honestly like the idea of a rifle elementalist, it could be pretty special but yeah, I think it will be bow 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lan Deathrider.5910 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 9 hours ago, Sunshine.5014 said: Since Pistol is already taken by Necro, Ele only has a couple choices left: Mace, Rifle, Torch, Short Bow. Other weapons either are existed or conjurable. Among Mace, Rifle, Short Bow, the last one is the most plausible. Mace is a pure melee weapon, which Ele already has with Weaver Sword. Rifle is just not thematic with Ele. Torch is out because they can't make Water Attunement to work. Short Bow is now the best candidate. Conclusion: go buy your Short Bow precursor before it shooting up in price like Pistol precursor today. Weaver and Holo both got swords in PoF. Nothing says another profession can't also get pistols. That said one of the icons screamed Arcane Archer. My bet is Longbow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arheundel.6451 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 49 minutes ago, Lan Deathrider.5910 said: Weaver and Holo both got swords in PoF. Nothing says another profession can't also get pistols. That said one of the icons screamed Arcane Archer. My bet is Longbow. One can only pray...this community is hard tired of melee combat where you need to constantly hug your target for damage, let's ele players for once play like a classic glass cannon ranged mage like elementalist class is in all other MMOS, only in GW2 an elementalist has to go toe to toe melee range with enemies while still being an actual mage. 1) No hybrid weapon....full kitten power damage on all attunements, no half baked skils , half condi, half power BS where you need to use cele gear to max anything 2) No long kitten casting time with rooting bullcrap, after cast and snail moving animations 3)An actual scary elite to slot and something people are constantly afraid of..like they are of rampage, lich form etc etc I pray for all of this...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Arheundel.6451 said: One can only pray...this community is hard tired of melee combat where you need to constantly hug your target for damage, let's ele players for once play like a classic glass cannon ranged mage like elementalist class is in all other MMOS, only in GW2 an elementalist has to go toe to toe melee range with enemies while still being an actual mage. 1) No hybrid weapon....full kitten power damage on all attunements, no half baked skils , half condi, half power BS where you need to use cele gear to max anything 2) No long kitten casting time with rooting bullcrap, after cast and snail moving animations 3)An actual scary elite to slot and something people are constantly afraid of..like they are of rampage, lich form etc etc I pray for all of this...... The tone is salty and I have to say sword weaver and dagger ele feel pretty fantastic to me, but I agree with the overall message. It's time for ele to have a new ranged weapon with a more mobile play style than staff allows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josspai.4356 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 And, by the love of Dwayna, give us utilities that can be used at range too. I don't wanna end like druid with a 1,200 range staff and yet glyphs with a 300 radius around me... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lLobo.7960 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Arheundel.6451 said: One can only pray...this community is hard tired of melee combat where you need to constantly hug your target for damage, let's ele players for once play like a classic glass cannon ranged mage like elementalist class is in all other MMOS, only in GW2 an elementalist has to go toe to toe melee range with enemies while still being an actual mage. 1) No hybrid weapon....full kitten power damage on all attunements, no half baked skils , half condi, half power BS where you need to use cele gear to max anything 2) No long kitten casting time with rooting bullcrap, after cast and snail moving animations 3)An actual scary elite to slot and something people are constantly afraid of..like they are of rampage, lich form etc etc I pray for all of this...... I'd lower your expectations. Historically, melee combat is higher dmg. And even if bow is best dps, you'll still stack in melee for high end PvE content (fractals, raids, strikes). High ranged dmg will be great for open world and PvP/WvW if, and that is a big if, ele gets weapon swap if it to be able to deal with melee situations. Keep in mind though, the elite spec is more than just the weapon. The bow can be a great addition, but the spec could also have great synergy with core weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanhawk.3806 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 19 hours ago, Sunshine.5014 said: Since Pistol is already taken by Necro, Ele only has a couple choices left: Mace, Rifle, Torch, Short Bow. So, I'm confused. Why does Necro getting a Pistol mean Ele can't? HoT gave a Shield to both Rev (albeit it was introduced in HoT) and Mesmer. Both Ranger and Thief gained Staff as a weapon. PoF gave Guardian and Mesmer an Axe, both Engi and Ele Sword mh, and while Warrior got both Main and off hand, it and Ranger both got Daggers. I can't see why Ele can't have a pistol outside of players just not wanting it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyp.6295 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 48 minutes ago, Xanhawk.3806 said: So, I'm confused. Why does Necro getting a Pistol mean Ele can't? HoT gave a Shield to both Rev (albeit it was introduced in HoT) and Mesmer. Both Ranger and Thief gained Staff as a weapon. PoF gave Guardian and Mesmer an Axe, both Engi and Ele Sword mh, and while Warrior got both Main and off hand, it and Ranger both got Daggers. I can't see why Ele can't have a pistol outside of players just not wanting it. This. I don't understand why Necro getting Pistol immediately means Elementalist wont. There is clearly an upcoming spec that is going to be using some sort of gun-based projectile. I know people are automatically assuming the Super Sayian hair icon is the new Ele Spec, but again, if we didn't know about Virtuoso, I'm sure people would have been saying the three dagger icon was for Thief. Nothing is set in stone yet, so lets not act like it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Xanhawk.3806 said: So, I'm confused. Why does Necro getting a Pistol mean Ele can't? HoT gave a Shield to both Rev (albeit it was introduced in HoT) and Mesmer. Both Ranger and Thief gained Staff as a weapon. PoF gave Guardian and Mesmer an Axe, both Engi and Ele Sword mh, and while Warrior got both Main and off hand, it and Ranger both got Daggers. I can't see why Ele can't have a pistol outside of players just not wanting it. You could kind of use your imagination that scepter is a type of "gun" much like ppl are looking at necro pistol as another axe main hand lol. We need a scepter that looks like a ray gun or something hehe. Weapons dont seem that important for the ele class any way (there realty no attk ranged type the class is missing atm) lets hope the F5 or atument base effects are something better then overloads and dule atuments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 10 hours ago, fuzzyp.6295 said: This. I don't understand why Necro getting Pistol immediately means Elementalist wont. There is clearly an upcoming spec that is going to be using some sort of gun-based projectile. I know people are automatically assuming the Super Sayian hair icon is the new Ele Spec, but again, if we didn't know about Virtuoso, I'm sure people would have been saying the three dagger icon was for Thief. Nothing is set in stone yet, so lets not act like it is. I'm betting the projectile icon will be the Necro's since we know that one is getting a pistol. I have a feeling that their lifeforce mechanic will also be themed around a gun this time too. The "Super Sayian hair icon" as you put it looks a lot like an oncoming flaming arrow to me which is why I think it definitely belongs to the ele and why I think ele will be getting a longbow this time around. Just all fits. I've done a little image on what profession I think each new spec icon goes with.https://imgur.com/bRvlGL8 Looking forward to finding out how many I got right or not lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodama.6453 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Teratus.2859 said: I'm betting the projectile icon will be the Necro's since we know that one is getting a pistol. I have a feeling that their lifeforce mechanic will also be themed around a gun this time too. The "Super Sayian hair icon" as you put it looks a lot like an oncoming flaming arrow to me which is why I think it definitely belongs to the ele and why I think ele will be getting a longbow this time around. Just all fits. I've done a little image on what profession I think each new spec icon goes with.https://imgur.com/bRvlGL8 Looking forward to finding out how many I got right or not lol My brother.... finally someone who agrees with me on all the elite spec icon predictions. :') 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeTect.5918 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) On 7/28/2021 at 5:17 AM, Sunshine.5014 said: Since Pistol is already taken by Necro, Ele only has a couple choices left: Mace, Rifle, Torch, Short Bow. Other weapons either are existed or conjurable. Among Mace, Rifle, Short Bow, the last one is the most plausible. Mace is a pure melee weapon, which Ele already has with Weaver Sword. Rifle is just not thematic with Ele. Torch is out because they can't make Water Attunement to work. Short Bow is now the best candidate. Conclusion: go buy your Short Bow precursor before it shooting up in price like Pistol precursor today. Dont do this. Please. There are chances that it will be rifle or sth. Dont make people buy sth for 100-600 Gold thats maybe useless after official news. Just Imagine people buy shortbow precursor and its not shortbow after. I am a big friend of theory crafting but theories are theories and not official. Dont make people lose Gold because of your personal theories. I wont hate u if its not shortbow because i will not buy anything before sth official comes out. But people that buy sth bc of u, will ofc hate u. Obv I could be wrong but there is a CHANCE that it will be shortbow and its not 100% Chance. Its a high Chance that it will be rifle or sth imo. Magic Bullet shooting and sth yk. Edited July 29, 2021 by SeTect.5918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddbopkins.2630 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Id say its torch off hand. Hot we got warhorn offhand, pof we got sword mainhand, this time around its gana be offhand and its torch. I feel ele should already be able to use it. A torch is fire on a stick endless fire on a stick and your telling me a magic user cant make that work for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jski.6180 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eddbopkins.2630 said: Id say its torch off hand. Hot we got warhorn offhand, pof we got sword mainhand, this time around its gana be offhand and its torch. I feel ele should already be able to use it. A torch is fire on a stick endless fire on a stick and your telling me a magic user cant make that work for them? I would love an off hand torch! (It would have to change flames base off of your atument.) The ele classes 4 and 5 skills are far more importen then its 123 (unless the 3 is different over all like what we saw with weaver). Off hand torch that is base off of making combo fields and doing combos! The dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Kodama.6453 said: My brother.... finally someone who agrees with me on all the elite spec icon predictions. :') Great minds eh 😄 haha I can't wait to see them all and find out how many we got right XD Edited July 29, 2021 by Teratus.2859 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Or one handed crossbow mainhand... Would look epic with dagger offhand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyp.6295 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Teratus.2859 said: I'm betting the projectile icon will be the Necro's since we know that one is getting a pistol. I have a feeling that their lifeforce mechanic will also be themed around a gun this time too. The "Super Sayian hair icon" as you put it looks a lot like an oncoming flaming arrow to me which is why I think it definitely belongs to the ele and why I think ele will be getting a longbow this time around. Just all fits. I've done a little image on what profession I think each new spec icon goes with.https://imgur.com/bRvlGL8 Looking forward to finding out how many I got right or not lol Personally, I think a safer bet for Necromancer would be the distorted potion that has the evil looking eye in the center considering the teaser picture shows green orb looking potions, leaving the gun icon still up for debate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine.5014 Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 57 minutes ago, fuzzyp.6295 said: Personally, I think a safer bet for Necromancer would be the distorted potion that has the evil looking eye in the center considering the teaser picture shows green orb looking potions, leaving the gun icon still up for debate. The gun icon can also be a Rifle. Maybe I should buy a Rifle precursor too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 57 minutes ago, fuzzyp.6295 said: Personally, I think a safer bet for Necromancer would be the distorted potion that has the evil looking eye in the center considering the teaser picture shows green orb looking potions, leaving the gun icon still up for debate. Could very well be 🙂 I also think the Warrior and Thief icons could be switched as well and still make sense haha I really can't wait to find out ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anduriell.6280 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Ele seems to be getting a torch, if the flame Ivón is for the e-spec. it does not need to be bad thou. A shortbow or longbow would be definitely better thou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Hunter D.5037 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Honestly I'd be most pumped for a Rifle. It's what I've wanted on an elementalist since beta. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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