Burning Speed delay on evade is god awful.

[Shao.7236]

Has it ever been mentioned that you can't reliably evade anything right unless you wing it randomly? Literally a sitting duck at the start of that skill, majority of the dazes in this game are instant. That would be a great core buff to fix that, all skills that are a carbon copy of the animation have better evade.

Edited August 2, 2021 by Shao.7236

[Swagg.9236]

Putting a fixed, 0.75s-long, damage negation period on a scripted movement that also deals a large AoE which can crit in the 5-6k range is what's really god awful about Burning Speed.

[Jski.6180]

The timing of ele effects have always been off. Weaver dule skills barrier never where on the skill them self but after the skills making them bad for def over all.

[Zhaid Zhem.6508]

I didn't play since a month but If I remember right all leaps on dagger  (earthen rush, mud slide, steam surge...) have a cast + after-cast. It's true it's often unsettling, mostly when you want to chain them.

[Sunshine.5014]

They really should fix all the after-cast from Ele. Dagger has it bad, but Staff is even WORSE. Ele could be much more enjoyable with their cast time fix.

[Shao.7236]

On 8/2/2021 at 11:10 PM, Swagg.9236 said:

Putting a fixed, 0.75s-long, damage negation period on a scripted movement that also deals a large AoE which can crit in the 5-6k range is what's really god awful about Burning Speed.

Missing the point, I don't care how long is the evade. The whole ordeal is jank, if I press the button, that's because I want to evade the incoming pressure at the time it's pressed, not be standing for half of a second to get absolutely destroyed before it's actually effective.

[Shao.7236]

23 minutes ago, Swagg.9236 said:

Just play staff ele and actually git gud.  Then your timing won't be off.  Then again, why you're using Burning Speed to actively evade things instead of just blowing things up in combination with lightning flash is beyond me.  How you're using dagger mainhand and not being devoted entirely to suicide burst is beyond me.  Anything evaded by Burning Speed is entirely just collateral; that skill is a one-way ticket into explosions since dagger mainhand ele basically means that it has no real repositioning ability unless you take Ride the Lightning explicitly to just leave after using something like Burning Speed (which is generally wasteful).

 

Just take your easy-mode free evade and stop crying about it.  Or do what I do and take mist form and arcane shield so you can do some real cheese garbage like Lightning Flash/Burning Speed into [instant damage negation]/Lightning Attunement for Flame Expulsion free damage while just leaving a bad situation scott-free with superspeed. 

Still missing the point, what's so hard to understand.

 

You can literally try to strike into someone with the skill and still get interrupted by stupidest of things because it takes too long for the evade to kick in.

 

Easy mode? No, say that about the 5 different other evades available that don't suffer from that issue whatsoever. That's extremely unintuitive as a whole.

 

Coming from Revenant Sword 3, this ain't some cheesy demand, that skill takes even longer to cast compared Burning Speed and you don't see me complaining about it.

 

Btw, I have 1.5k games as an ex-ele main before going all the way rev at 8k game, I just decided to finally say something about it because I can't tolerate it anymore and it seems to be the opinion that many shares as well. Don't have to toss all your assumptions out there.

 

[Swagg.9236]

2 minutes ago, Shao.7236 said:

Still missing the point, what's so hard to understand.

 

You can literally try to strike into someone with the skill and still get interrupted by stupidest of things because it takes too long for the evade to kick in.

 

Easy mode? No, say that about the 5 different other evades available that don't suffer from that issue whatsoever. That's extremely unintuitive as a whole.

 

Coming from Revenant Sword 3, this ain't some cheesy demand, that skill takes even longer to cast compared Burning Speed and you don't see me complaining about it.

 

Btw, I have 1.5k games as an ex-ele main before going all the way rev at 8k game, I just decided to finally say something about it because I can't tolerate it anymore and it seems to be the opinion that many shares as well. Don't have to toss all your assumptions out there.

 

Just because something isn't effortlessly free doesn't mean it's bad.  It's not like GW2 isn't already incredibly straightforward to play; why nit-pick about the little leftover quirks?  I understand that I'm not addressing your "point" directly; you don't even really have a point anyway--you're just complaining about a skill not being as fire-and-forget as basically every other skill that sees use in GW2.  So what?

[Shao.7236]

12 minutes ago, Swagg.9236 said:

Just because something isn't effortlessly free doesn't mean it's bad.  It's not like GW2 isn't already incredibly straightforward to play; why nit-pick about the little leftover quirks?  I understand that I'm not addressing your "point" directly; you don't even really have a point anyway--you're just complaining about a skill not being as fire-and-forget as basically every other skill that sees use in GW2.  So what?

It still wouldn't be effortless though, thing still has to be properly calculated to be used for damage if you don't use Lightning Flash. Moving the evade frames back means a vulnerable state at the end of the skill, just like how several other skills tend to have it in the game, Backward Stunbreaks, Other built in evade weapon skills such as Rev sword 3 or Thief skills.

[Swagg.9236]

20 minutes ago, Shao.7236 said:

It still wouldn't be effortless though, thing still has to be properly calculated to be used for damage if you don't use Lightning Flash. Moving the evade frames back means a vulnerable state at the end of the skill, just like how several other skills tend to have it in the game, Backward Stunbreaks, Other built in evade weapon skills such as Rev sword 3 or Thief skills.

Bro, full-power dagger/warhorn tempest is so braindead.  It's all I use lately since staff ele, despite actually requiring more than 12 brain cells to use, is just not cut out to compete with most of this game's garbage right now.  There is almost no bad time to use Burning Speed into anything.  You evade and force every sort of panic CD under the sun if you don't outright kill anything (since it's constantly critting for 5-7k).

[solemn.9608]

Yes pls buff >:D

Edited August 9, 2021 by solemn.9608

[Zhaid Zhem.6508]

It's just another observation. I don't think he hates dagger mainhand because of burning speed delay.

 

Personnaly I play mostly dagge/dagger with unravel; it's really surprising for most of people but I agree I feel like I stumble on each leap skills I chain them. When I'm looking for responsiveness and speed because of foe on caffeine or my own survival, the litlle after-cast  + delay on second skill really annoy me.

 

It's like updraft, with time you get used to it and forget the issue; but when you see X-men that read you and simply avoid the cc with a step, the anger comes over you, again.