[Enough PvP for me]

This is unironically a l2p issue. Who TF just gives up on a game mode after getting smashed like that...isn't there some part of you that kinda wants to know why/what you can do differently?

[Conditions Vs Power Debate]

@"darren.1064" said:Did you just make a whole post about why conditions are better and then end it with "if youre complaining about condition builds, you just need to get good and deal with conditions better?"

For real. What an absurdly biased OP.

[Do you enjoy the current meta?]

@ollbirtan.2915 said:

@Trevor Boyer.6524 said:This meta is terrible.

Let me sum up what happened here:

• Usually, a build is only good at being one of these at a time: Team Fighter or Team Support or +1 Roam or Side Node Monkey.
• In this meta patching now, for some reason Arenanet took the Team Support role, and started buffing all the classes that were Team Supports, so they could also be Team Fighters that were also somehow dominant Side Node Monkeys, that were for whatever reasons allowed to have nearly the mobility of a +1 Roam, while still being a stapled powerful Team Support.
• Then everything else was left normal, where it could only perform 1 job role.

The meta is more fun when it revolves more around high risk high reward game play, where any class can beat any class if they outplay. A meta consisting of these historical builds, considering they were patched right with a decent intra-class balance, would be the most fun:

• Core Guardian Burst or maybe even Power DH - No FB supports
• Strength Spellbreaker or even CC DPS train Berserkers
• Power Shiro only - No Ren supports
• LB/GS Power Ranger/Soulbeast, Berserker variants - No Druids
• DP SD Thieves/Daredevils, maybe even Rifle DE - No Condi Thieves. It always funks up the game play.
• Power based Holo builds, after a bit of sustain was cut off. Power based Scrapper wouldn't be bad to employ
• Power Mes/Chrono/Mirages - No Condi
• Fresh Air Eles or traditional 1v1 Fire Weavers - No Tempest Supports
• And then Necro would have to be somewhat tanky because that's just what the class is

In an environment like this ^ with no supports and no rando condi aoe no-animation rando damage, the game would feel great to play. I like diversity and I like power/condi play alike. But

historically speaking, the biggest problems we continue to have with GW2 in terms of balance & the feel of the game, are all related to condi spam builds and when builds have too much sustain.

You realise that in your ideal pvp meta, more than half of the classes are deleted yes? Not everyone enjoys playing 1-shot power builds. You seem to have an incredible bias towards supports and condi builds. You are free to like what you want, but Imho 'power only' meta is extremely unhealthy and very boring, Cheers.

Condi and bunker are infinitely less fun than power.

[Can you please just release a balance patch and make some changes]

@HotDelirium.7984 said:

@Renzo.8361 said:

@HotDelirium.7984 said:

@Renzo.8361 said:

@HotDelirium.7984 said:As much as people complain about PVP and WVW

I don't see a lot of longevity in just killing your fellow Tyrian. Just meh. Stand on a location and kill fellow Tyrian again....weeeeeee

..... I have no doubt we got a WvW pve map and we will probly get a openish pvp-pve map.

So you play like a bot?

Or maybe you aren't aware that daily farm servers don't really count?

the floor is open for your ground breaking inspirational ideas for PVP gameplay....

If to you, the experience of simply fighting other players is just a sarcastic "weee..."and not an intrinsically engaging and fun activity no extra game modes or novel types of pvp will make pvp fun for you. Not to mention you saying "stand on a location and kill fellow tyrian again" as if thats some kind of bad pvp gameplay? What exactly do you think pvp is? You engage with a "fellow tyrian" and hopefully one of you dies. That's kind of the idea. Everything else is window dressing.

Clearly, Anet feels the same or you would be getting more substantial updates.

You wanna come back to PVE? We'll take you back :3

This isn't anything new. It's obvious that whoever is in "charge" of pvp balance either doesn't understand the game mode/competitive gaming or they flat out don't care bc they know pve whales/casuals make them way more money for a fraction of the effort.

It's sad to see what they've done with such a potential-filled combat system.

[Can you please just release a balance patch and make some changes]

@HotDelirium.7984 said:

@Renzo.8361 said:

@HotDelirium.7984 said:As much as people complain about PVP and WVW

I don't see a lot of longevity in just killing your fellow Tyrian. Just meh. Stand on a location and kill fellow Tyrian again....weeeeeee

..... I have no doubt we got a WvW pve map and we will probly get a openish pvp-pve map.

So you play like a bot?

Or maybe you aren't aware that daily farm servers don't really count?

the floor is open for your ground breaking inspirational ideas for PVP gameplay....

If to you, the experience of simply fighting other players is just a sarcastic "weee..."and not an intrinsically engaging and fun activity no extra game modes or novel types of pvp will make pvp fun for you. Not to mention you saying "stand on a location and kill fellow tyrian again" as if thats some kind of bad pvp gameplay? What exactly do you think pvp is? You engage with a "fellow tyrian" and hopefully one of you dies. That's kind of the idea. Everything else is window dressing.

[Can you please just release a balance patch and make some changes]

@HotDelirium.7984 said:As much as people complain about PVP and WVW I don't see a lot of longevity in just killing your fellow Tyrian. Just meh. Stand on a location and kill fellow Tyrian again....weeeeeee..... I have no doubt we got a WvW pve map and we will probly get a openish pvp-pve map.

So you play like a bot?

Or maybe you aren't aware that daily farm servers don't really count?