[Discover the Wonders within the Wizard’s Vault in Guild Wars 2: Secrets of the Obscure]

2 hours ago, Acheron.1580 said:

One gets you gold indefinitely into the future at no extra cost to you. The other is a system built into the game to generate revenue for Anet. Unless you are talking third party gold at which point yes, that is strait up an abuse of the ToS.

The intent of the system wasn't that because it costs Anet money in the long run, and effectively gives an unfair advantage as long as you are willing to throw money at it. To exploit a system is to use it in an unintended way to give yourself an advantage. If you can honestly find anything that suggests that Anet intended players to buy multiple copies of their game and rack up 2000 gold a month for doing literally nothing, and encouraged a system that allows players to not support further gem store purchases as a result, then I'll take back what I said.

I already know you are going to fall back on "But Anet says it doesn't violate the terms of service" or "if it was an exploit then accounts would have been banned" but my argument to you is they cut you off. The system will no longer support it. If they wanted people to continue doing this, they wouldn't have changed the system for it. There's nothing against giving gold to players (as long as it isn't bought with real money by a third party), there's nothing against giving mystic coins or resources to another player. So how could they possible have policed it? Just because they couldn't find a way to deal with it didn't mean they condoned it. And now it's clear that they don't. So, what do you have to suggest that it isn't an exploit? And don't answer it cost me money because the profit made was significant at literally no effort on your part (hence, it being an exploit).

I appreciate the distinction you're drawing between the two systems. It does help explain why so many people in this thread are bothered by login rewards but not gold buying.

There are lots of systems, financial and otherwise, where the intent of some feature is not to cost the organization extra money but winds up working that way. It's the reason everybody knows that coupons kitten well better say "limit one per customer!" But the lady who got a free car by clipping coupons from her neighbors' newspapers didn't do anything wrong.

Neither our extrapolation of an organization's truest volition nor their preference after the fact is relevant to the definition of exploit. Neither do profit and effort have anything to do with it; and the company later changing the system to prevent a behavior does not retroactively prove the users' moral corruption.

Someone using a system, as designed and with the full awareness of the designer, is not exploiting it.

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3 hours ago, Acheron.1580 said:

Removing an obvious exploit doesn't warrant compensation, especially if said person has made significant profit off of it already.

If login rewards are an 'obvious exploit' then buying gold would be straight up abuse.

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1 hour ago, vares.8457 said:

Clicking through your 20+ accounts is not playing the game. Why you should get rewarded for just logging in? Play the game to get rewards. 

You can also just buy those rewards with real money. Hard to condemn multi-account login rewards while that's the case.

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52 minutes ago, Buckeye.9846 said:

Good thing they got rid of this massive.. well lets call it what it is.. gold exploit. People are using hundreds of not even upgraded accounts to funnel their daily reward goodies to their "main".

It's that's true, we'll have to get rid of paying real money for gold, too. That's at least as exploitive and doesn't even involve a game system.

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4 minutes ago, Agathon.6578 said:

He will not "lose" anything... 

Be realistic... asking for compensation because you almost reached something ... is this a joke ? I also will be 5 days before it... sad for me but nothing more 

 

The current daily login reward system is cumulative; you get better and better rewards as you progress in a 30-day cycle. If the new system completely replaces the old with no accommodation, everyone will lose their accumulated progress toward the better rewards.

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27 minutes ago, Mor The Thief.9135 said:

I take it that value-wise we either lose nothing or we gain more thanks to the ability to choose the rewards. That's exactly the answer most of us wanted. Thanks!

I don't think that's the takeaway from Rubi's post. Flexibility, yes. But I'm not seeing any reason to think the new system will preserve the same value of "whatever 28 days of daily login rewards would have netted you... 20 MC, 35 Laurels and 7 Clovers/20 Laurels etc."

That's the answer we all want, and what all the bickering in this thread is centered around:

1. How do login-only rewards compare to the old system?
2. What is the AA cost of Mystic Coins and Laurels?

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13 minutes ago, vrauns.3215 said:

you can get them with astral acclaim

He knows that. He's asking how his progress in the current system, which is close to the big reward, will transfer into the new system. Or will he start the new system from scratch and lose all progress?

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3 hours ago, Rubi Bayer.8493 said:

I'm here and I've got an answer for you!

Gold, Laurels, and Mystic Coins can all be purchased in the Wizard's Vault for completing your daily objectives. Daily achievement points will still be available as well, you'll earn them by completing your Wizard's Vault daily objectives.

How much will they cost?

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5 hours ago, Sobx.1758 said:

you think the existance of textures is somehow a proof for it being repurposed from something else.

He didnt say that at all. He thinks what the textures show is evidence they had something else in mind originally.

5 hours ago, Sobx.1758 said:

not that it would matter to me anyways, not sure why it would to anyone?

He didn't say it matters. Does it "matter" that there's another image underneath the Mona Lisa?

Nothing in OP's post is accusatory or censorious but everybody's coming at him like it was.

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41 minutes ago, Sobx.1758 said:

I don't know how this is "repurposed" when what you seem to be actually talking about is that... it could be something else if it was something else?

The pits and corrosion reveal that it was designed for some other purpose, they were then concealed and it was used for this instead.

[The holographic outfit is a repurposed skin]

People in this thread acting like op said "how dare they." 🤣

[Jade Mech Skins?]

Can't believe we don't have them already. When the mech first came out, I assumed it looked the way it did in order to sell skins.

[Launching GW2 opens a webpage]

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone.

Yep I get it with LB. Of 10 account logins, it's always at least 4, frequently 6, and occasionally all 10.

Agreed, Daniyyel.3428: it's just hit or miss. No apparent reason for when it triggers and when it doesn't. But it's more often than not.

Maybe it has something to do with switching window focus with LB running, and focusing the GW2 launcher somehow counts as clicking it in the news hotspot?

[Launching GW2 opens a webpage]

When I launch GW2, about 60% of the time it opens the latest news item in my web browser. Right now it's https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/lunar-new-year-2023-is-next-week/.

Today this happened 10 logins in a row.

What's happening? How can I stop this?

Thanks!

[Disappointed with SAB]

What's a holographic soup?

["This APP can't run on your PC"]

On 9/22/2017 at 11:31 PM, Healix.5819 said:

It's a Windows error that means the executable is invalid. GW2 likely failed to update itself, so there should be a ~30 MB Gw2.tmp or Gw2.### file in your GW2 folder that you can rename back to Gw2.exe. Alternatively, download Gw2Setup.exe, rename it to Gw2.exe and put it back.

 

Just bumping here in the future, since this is the top result on google for "gw2 this app cant run on your pc," to say that this still works.

[Must know tips for using the Mortar and Grenade Kit.]

Thanks for this but man, where do you think I'm getting an extra keybind.