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Since endgame isn't your goal
for open world (the casual part of the game) I would say full healer aren't rly needed there and rev/mesmer could bring enough healing.
fracs/raids/wvw (endgame) the answer would change.
Rev was a long time ago a good healer but nowadays it isn't used anymore as such thanks to nerfs and better options.
mesmer never was a healer beside the self heal/Tank build what was niche, there will pop up another guy telling you mesmer is a good healer because of reasons no other understand but the reality is that mesmer isn't taken as healer in endgame content.
Nekro was no real healer it was more a barrier+rezz bot.
If you are searching a good solo class all 3 are good, mesmer and necro both are good solo and have both dps and support builds for endgame pve.
Can't say much about rev because its long time since I played him.
For healing Guardian engineer druid and ele would be the best choices.
But like I said if you only plan doing open world and the more casual things you can play what you want and heal a bit with mesmer or rev.
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First they need a clear vision and balance philosophy, they nerfed chrono in the past, dps and support stm build with the claim it was overpresented in every game mode while in reality you saw them only in raids, they nerfed ele because it began to be "Meta defining", but at the same time they allow now mecha to be everywhere...
e-specs should add new gameplay styles/roles and not something that compete with the other class Specs making them useless because they need to be nerfed so the newest can be the best.
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15 hours ago, zeyeti.8347 said:
And if he does a nice coffee he can get a promotion ! Toilet paper replacer . And never let this dev touch the game again , or next e-spec for engi is gonna be called "the swarm" : you have 3 little mechas , one heals , one give boons and one deals damage , i wouldnt be surprised and aberration like that sees the day ...
Don't give them ideas... 😑
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1 minute ago, zaswer.5246 said:
I mean please, tell me why do you need to enter the discussion, if you dont have any complain, and the only thing you say is, not everyone plays because its strong, people play for different things, yeah, but between firebrand and mech they take all the suport spots in more than 85% of the groups in raid, fractals and strikes, is it realy a personal choice that almost everyone does that? or maybe you are the exception that doesnt wanna see reality?
because it is what he is always doing, you should stop and ignore him, trust me the frustration is not worth it, you are talking to a person that now over a year trys to defend anet no matter what, people before said how biased anet is with speccs und that they have golden childs and gues who was in every thread saying "noooooo, they have a plan, a big vision thats why they make (unjustified) nerfs" and at the end what we got? a leak that showed us how right everyone was, and still the same person is here defending everything because people arent allowed to have their own opinion.
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10 minutes ago, Ashgar.3024 said:
Considering i main one of the classes designed through the Wiki, yeah, i'm aware.
And that's an actually valid concern/criticism. See, you can do it. Leave the feefees at the door and focus on what matters. That's growing up.To me its mostly an indication that their balance team is understaffed though.
Understaffed or not they had the whole forum community here with lots of feedback, the Mesmer community has done such a good job and it got totally ignored, its no wonder people are angry and it has nothing to do with growing up
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4 minutes ago, Nyel.1843 said:
Is there a screenshot or link to what the Anet employee said - the stuff everybody is calling out here?
It gets deleted every time because the dev's call it a personal attack, it was on reddit
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Others asked this or similar things so you are not alone, maybe they bring somthing with the next big patch, otherwise there is not much hope since we have here in the forum the "its fine for me so it has to be fine for everyone" group, so its easier for anet to hear what they say since this means no more work for them.
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3 hours ago, Matt.1938 said:
So for the gear then, do you have to put it in shared slot? Like how does it know to pull that gear if you have it on another character?
And lets say I use d/d on ele. Would crafting the legendary once allow me to use it for both slots?
Legys go to the legendary armory, the item apear only in your equipment tab in the hero panel for all chars that can use the specific armor ot weapon type.
For each template it is like you would have a extra gear/weapon, you can make temp 1 armor with berserker stats and on temp 2 with viper, it switched automatically between the temps dependent on what you choose on stats.
For every slot you need a Legy, that means if you want play dual dagger you need to have 2 legy dagger otherwise you can only equip 1 and for the other slot you need to use a normal weapon.
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30 minutes ago, Ombras.2853 said:
That’s not true, absolutely not. You want support Chrono in very few numbers, this is a thing and I agree, cuz having too many in squad makes you lose tons and tons of dps. But it’s still best boonstrip and best pull available in WvW, bar none, plus the usual Veil/Portal provider.
The only thing is, if you are a random player joining a group, I would highly recommend to choose something else, cuz people on voice are the ones they make Chrono shine. If you are not on voice, just don’t.That's why I said on our Server because you don't see there much chronos and necro is preferred over mesmer and being a veil bot with a pull is nothing I consider as a must have, so yeah good ones can make it shine but I don't saw much mesmer pre EoD.
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11 minutes ago, Matt.1938 said:
PvE wise, how does Mesmer compare with the necro specs? I don’t mind necessarily swapping and using a specific class in PvP, but looking for a reason to PvE a Mesmer instead of just going full necro if there is a reason at all.
As dps you are the strongest spec with Mesmer/Virtuoso (Condi dps), power isn't that strong and not so easy like Condi virt but still strong.
Alac support with Mirage it's OK and a boon that necro can't give.
Quick support you are the worste spec of all quick giver since you can't like the others press 1 button and give the boon, you have to summon first clones and shatter them.
So dps wise virt is a bit stronger as Condi and much stronger as power than necro.
Support wise necro is now better with Heal Scourge as a hard carry and quick harbi.
Quick chrono gets more and more pushed to a niche role from anet, but as a Tank its still a good choice.
So the reason to swap to mesmer in pve would be when you need a alac support or you want a safer Tank (end game)
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47 minutes ago, Matt.1938 said:
So basically it’s only viable in PvE other than the Chrono in WvW?
Even in WvW (on our Server) squads prefer everything else before the chrono since this minstrel chrono thing is at this point more e meme then anything else.
In pve for end content Virtuoso is one of the strongest and easiest pve (till anet decides to nerf it like chrono because it get stacked), for solo pve mirage and chrono are strong too.
spvp you have to be rly rly good otherwise every other class played there at the moment do things easier and better than mesmer and will outperform you.
I will say stick to Necro, you will have a better time and enjoy the game more with it.
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Not sure if serious or trolling but
1. Clones aren't a problem they die in an instant in wvw and you can see the real mesmer if you look on the boons
2. Stealth is it's own story but why mesmer should get nerfed and other Classes should be allowed to have it? We aren't the most op class in pvp/wvw with stealth
3. Your solution for Mirage cloak is mirrors so you have to walk every time to them or have to look where they are only for using ambush? Why not suggest to delete it completely and don't give something in return? Imagine you can't even escape with the Sword ambush anymore since you have to create first mirror and collecting it
4. You are realising that Mesmer is the only class that nothing changes with the elite spec? Only the chrono f4 is a total different thing and virtu f4 is a block instead of distortion also still a defensive shatter even if it is worse. Beside this nothing changes all our shatters are doing the same thing F1 dps F2 Condi F3 cc and beside of chrono F4 defense.
It's one of the reasons why mesmer and its Specs starts to get boring for me, because there isn't something new like on guard or necro, only animation changed on Virtu that's all
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7 hours ago, Biermeister.4678 said:
Two base builds I am messing with one power the other Condition
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PiwAgyFOKL9RdA-zRZYBRHIGuw5g8AA-e
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?PixAgqZOuP+xfA-zRRYMRHIHe0cidLA-e
they are just a base to work with
For which game mode are they?
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6 hours ago, Salt Mode.3780 said:
@Urphen.2857I just choose to ignore that person always defending anet for now reason lol as if defending bad choices or decisions are going to help the game. Always with the ANET's Vision bullcrap, and I've said it many times they dont even know what their vision is considering there has been soo many different employees coming in and out of the team. How many months into the expansion or years for WvW to be the cornerstone of GW2.
Based on the balance patch notes I dare say no where close, hopium for those who think the summer patch is gonna make a difference. We need more frequent patches not one large patch per couple years.
FYI: that person already stated they don't play mesmer enough or main the class to begin with. I have linked his exact comments from other forum post from other profession threads hes been trolling. Needless to say he had no comments besides the generic ones.
Yeah there is no hope so I'm going to ignore him again, the ignorance that some people have here baffles me every time again
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5 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:
Don't need to argue because it's pretty clear what Anet said in that quote. No interpretation necessary. Again, not sure where this '2K DPS' or 'other specs' or 'top DPS' stuff comes from you are talking about ... it's certainly not in that quote. What IS in that quote is the implication that Anet has a target for Chrono and was overperforming and it was too high, so they made a change. Nothing else.
So what you are saying is still you can't prove any of your points 🙂
You are a lost case think what you want if you feel better, can't help you 🤷♂️
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33 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:
Well, I already did ... Chrono was outside the performance target Anet had for it. They fixed that. Anything else?
Yeah you edited your post and you are going the easy way because you have no arguments, it's naiv to think anet did this because of a performance target but you can't come with something else so you make exactly what you always do coming with thniks like the almighty anet has this and this in mind so it must be this case, have you a source for any of your claims? Are you working for Anet or how you know what they are thinking?
See the difference between us? I could prove all my points either with links or with things that really happened while from you only things with no substance are coming.
Want another prove for my point?
Pre EoD the class that got stacked for Speedclears was Scourge and now guess who got nerfed?
You can blah blah as much you want but it's clear anet balance around golem numbers and Speedclear so the spec that get stacked the most will get hitet and that's why we have to expect a virtu nerf if Speedclear guilds starts to stack this spec so my point and all things I said stays -> it's the same reason -> chrono nerf based on dps and not on a imaginary performance target -> virtu will probably expect getting nerfed at the moment it get stacked
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Just now, Obtena.7952 said:
OK that's nice, but that's not what Anet in that thing you quoted. That's what YOU interpreted they meant. See, that's the problem here. You interpreted it wrong, then you don't understand the change and think there is something nefarious about the change.
The fact is that Anet has targets and Chronos was outside of theirs. That's all that happened there.
Again they nerfed us and buffed others to do the same as we did before so explain it please because what you are saying makes no sense
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16 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:
OH yeah? Where did they say that? because that's not what the thing you quoted said. I'm not twisting anything ... the reason Anet gave for the Chrono nerf is quite clear actually and it says NOTHING about being 2K more than other Specs. What it ACTUALLY implies that Anet has DPS targets for specs ... and Chrono was above theirs. Nothing more to take from that quote.
but if you want to argue there is some '2K DPS above other specs' thing that proves you are right about your interpretation about what they said ... I'll wait.
It's what it does at this time it was 2k more than other Specs Chrono was on 40-41k and other on 39-40k it's nothing anet has to say and the next thing in what you are wrong is you claim of dps target because at the same time they buffed others Specs doing the same dps we have done before without the need of something like slow and now I'll will wait for your next cheap excuse.
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17 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:
I don't get your point ... I'm not disputing why Anet says they make changes. Nerfs to things because of 'overperformance' are not the same reason as being TOP DPS. Like I said ... something is always Top DPS ... but that doesn't mean they are overperforming.
yes they nerfed it because it has done 2k more dps than other Specs, try what you want we all know that you like to defend anet, you can try to twist words so that it sounds better for you but at the end it's always the same chrono got nerfed because of dps and it wasn't overperforming because the only way to obtain this numbers was 1) high slow uptime 2) a harder rotation.
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9 minutes ago, Obtena.7952 said:
Well, believe what you like if you really want to convince yourselves Anet is just going to nerf everything. I can't help that. I just know that being Top DPS isn't a reason to nerf stuff ... something is always top DPS.
Chronomancer has been steeply overperforming in a damage role in all content, leading to an environment in which the best way to tackle almost any challenge is to throw more Chronomancers at it
nope sry you are the delusional anet defender, so im saying you now the same, belive what you want.
Chrono was nerfed because of dps and stacking with the false claim it does it in all content and as I said reality was that at this time Chrono was only good in Raids and only if you had enough slow uptime what leaded to stack Chronos 🤦♂️
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51 minutes ago, Biermeister.4678 said:
Untamed I have two decent builds long/shortbow and a hammer Greatsword build's with good survivability the key for me is unchaining the pet while untamed pet skills are on cooldown
As for the Virtuoso I can not find a viable build to clear maps or fight competitively in EoD it takes forever to kill a normal foe in power build or condi build
WvW a Virtuoso is just a bag
The Builds exist, I have played the EoD story + brought the Map's on 100% with Virtu.
With Chrono or Mirage it's definitely easier to do story or maps, I prefer them over Virtu but it wasn't impossible to clear the EoD content with Virtu.
For WvW yeah I dislike it.
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20 minutes ago, Biermeister.4678 said:
Untamed is playable in all game modes you can build off of past ranger specs and have a playable class
Virtuoso I can not stand It, as a power build it is weak compared to other elite specs and as a condition build it is also weak. compared to Mirage
The Virtuoso has no place in groups or competitive play the only decent skill is F4 Bladeturn Requiem
I'm not the biggest fan of Virtu... but...
Virtu is an easy top dps spec in instanced pve, its easier and stronger than the other mesmer spec's.
F4 from Virtu isn't decent it is worse than all other shatters mesmer has.
Untamed isn't a good dps, the only things untamed is good are spvp and cc.
Virtu has many problems most of them are spvp/wvw based but even I can't say it has absolutely no place in groups since on the pve side it is a good dps.
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2 hours ago, Obtena.7952 said:
Except those nerfs weren't because of the things that make Condi Virt good so ...
People have to pay attention to the reasons Anet state in the patch notes as to why they make changes.
If anything, I think this build is something new in GW2 because you have to bend over backwards with weird, non-intuitive stat choices to make it work and even weirder ones if you want to branch out with it.
Ah yes sure, iirc they said they nerf chrono because it was overperforming and overpresented in every game mode but the reality was you saw it at this time only in raids and only because you needed to stack them since it was the best way to hold slow uptime, so they nerfed chrono because of a problem anet created themselves with claims that weren't true.
You can defend anet but yes it's the same what makes virtu now good it is top dps and when speedclear guilds starts to stack them it will get nefed pretty soon its 1:1 the same thing because the reason before wasn't even true 🤷♂️
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2 hours ago, Smart College Boy.3249 said:
Great, now you guys are scaring me away from Virtuoso....
I originally wanted to try mirage but the spec seems so twitchy because you only have a small timeframe to take advantage of mirage cloak and ambush skills. Literally split second timing. Not sure I can handle that consistently in a hectic pvp environment.
Anyway, here's another noob mesmer question. For mirage's "infinite horizons" trait, do your illusions cast ambush skills on their own after you mirage cloak? Or do you have to cast your own ambush skills for the illusions to cast theirs?
They use it on their own after evading and even in a hectic fight it isn't that hard to pull out the ambush skills
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Another class choosing thread? I'm completely lost...
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Posted · Edited by Urphen.2857
There are coming a few Patches that can change things so have this in mind.
Thanks to e-spec Classes can have different roles.
Guardian personally I find it not as good in solo play like the other options but I have to say I don't have played Willbender enough to rank it, other than that for grp play Guardian has everything you want with Firebrand as Healer/Quick support and Dh/Willbender as dps, but it's Firebrand that let's Guardian be strong and Meta.
Mesmer has access to roles like quick (Chronomancer) or alac (Mirage) support.
Mirage is a strong (if not the strongest) solo spec and with its staff/staff build easy to play.
Virtuoso is a strong ranged dps in grp play.
So while Mesmer seems a good choice I need to say many mesmer mains (me including) aren't happy with the state of mesmer but this goes mostly in the direction of competitive play (pvp/wvw).
Revenant I will pass, like I said its long time ago that I have played him actively.
Necromancer ist a strong solo spec too, Reaper is fun to play, Scourge brings good Condi dps and can be barrier/rezz, before eod it was the carry spec, can't say much how it is yet.
Harbinger gives necro another strong Condi dps or a quick support.
Necromancer is a good class for wvw too.
Ranking them is difficult because e-specs can change how easy or hard a class is to play.
I think I'm not the best person to do this since I stopped playing a few months ago but I hope i could help a bit.
Guardian: DH Power Dps, Firebrand Condi dps and healer/Quick support, willbender Condi dps
Mesmer: Chronomancer Power dps and quick support, Mirage Condi dps and alac support, Virtuoso dps
Necromancer: Reaper Power dps (there was a time Condi dps existet too), Scourge Condi dps and barrier/rezz bot, harbinger Condi dps and quick support