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@"Donari.5237" said:The BL canister dyes are a new thing. I don't know if it's a rotation yet because each color has only shown up once so far. You can check the wiki on the blue and green ones to see when they were in the chests and for how long. I'm not sure but I think the color change has come with each new chest "season." So at a guess we'll have something new in the chests when No Quarter releases and that may include a new BL dye hue. Yellow? Brown? Black? Purple? Who knows? :)
Hope not chests with those dyes in them are among the worst ones, think that's reflected in the price chests are selling for.
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@Hutriel.3972 said:
@"hlaraujo.3210" said:The skin and the booster are a form of compensation on what people lost and can't get back,[...].No, you are wrong. The compensation is based on time of log in, not on lost progress. There are people who have suffered 0 lost progress but are eligible for the mount skin just because they logged in during the announced time period.I repeat: ELIGIBILITY TO COMPENSATION IS NOT BASED ON LOST PROGRESS. And that is the major problem here, not the part where people who actually lost something, need to submit tickets / do "paperwork" to get lost items back etc are compensated.The lesson there of course is, if this kind of thing happens just login and log out again. Just so they can see you were about at the time.
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@"hlaraujo.3210" said:Guess you are only lucky to not have lost any progression and that you are only "missing" a skin, which has no effect on actual gameplay and gives other players no advantage over yourself. The skin and the booster are a form of compensation on what people lost and can't get back, if you did not log in, you did not lost any of your already made progress, so there is nothing to be compensated.
I did lose, I lost all the progress I could have done if the game had been working correctly.I did login btw although only briefly.
What gets up my goat, is that people that knew there was a problem so avoided playing as to not make the situation worse may not get any compensation, whereas people that knew there was a problem but carried on playing anyway will get compensation.
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@Randulf.7614 said:
@Azala Yar.7693 said:@Randulf.7614 said:@manddras.1794 said:@Randulf.7614 said:But you (like me) also didn't lose anything. Those getting the licence actually lost progress and their personal time towards that progress Those who actually lost out are getting compensated, not those who didn't login and were safe from issuesI didn't log in either, but I spent the time elsewhere knowing I'd end up with a potential problem in GW2. I don't deserve the mount licence compensation and rightfully wont get it. Sure I didn't do my dailies, but there are those who did their dailies and lost them. They deserve more than those who didn't log in at allAn absolute non-issue hereWe were told not to log in to avoid possible data corruption, so I did. Whatever the way you put it, I lost progress too, I lost the things I could have do IG if there were no server issues.Some did log in anyway and duped items, some were not aware. They will get the free mount skin. Those who listened will not receive the free skin.It's like giving a 100$ to someone driving drunk or who hasn't seen the speed limit sign.Who told you not to log in to avoid data corruption?Iirc it was being said by some on the forums.What sensible player would continue playing a game where they know the data is incorrect or missing, and is most likely going to be corrected.There will have been a lot of people who wouldn't have known until they logged in and started playing and perhaps not noticed straight away. Plus the discovery was only made by people playing in the game - so there will have been a lot of people losing progress without immediately realising it at first until the news spread. And even then, there's no way of knowing how far that info spread because we know the forums do not account for the largest portion of the playerbase. If I had logged in, it prob would have taken me a while to notice my achievements weren't right and that some things from the weekend had gone. Luckily, I am 100% restored now.So people lost time and progress through no fault of their own - at least in the early part of the situation.Ultimately it doesn't matter. I think Anet will bow under the pressure of feedback anyway. I don't think that is something they should do, but I do think they will do it regardless.Any player that plays daily should have noticed not only that it would have been talked about enough in-game. I noticed on the character page I could see it was a roll-back before I even entered the game. Spent about a minute in-game didn't even bother to take the daily reward as that most likely would have been lost when they corrected the data.
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@Randulf.7614 said:
@manddras.1794 said:@Randulf.7614 said:But you (like me) also didn't lose anything. Those getting the licence actually lost progress and their personal time towards that progress Those who actually lost out are getting compensated, not those who didn't login and were safe from issuesI didn't log in either, but I spent the time elsewhere knowing I'd end up with a potential problem in GW2. I don't deserve the mount licence compensation and rightfully wont get it. Sure I didn't do my dailies, but there are those who did their dailies and lost them. They deserve more than those who didn't log in at allAn absolute non-issue hereWe were told not to log in to avoid possible data corruption, so I did. Whatever the way you put it, I lost progress too, I lost the things I could have do IG if there were no server issues.Some did log in anyway and duped items, some were not aware. They will get the free mount skin. Those who listened will not receive the free skin.It's like giving a 100$ to someone driving drunk or who hasn't seen the speed limit sign.Who told you not to log in to avoid data corruption?Iirc it was being said by some on the forums.
What sensible player would continue playing a game where they know the data is incorrect or missing, and is most likely going to be corrected.
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@SexyMofo.8923 said:Wow. Just wow. They are rewarding the wrong people. This is like rewarding the people who go out during the corona virus pandemic when it’s more helpful to stay home.
Actually, for the most part that's fairly accurate. There may have been a few that didn't know any different, but most would have known.
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@Kulvar.1239 said:
@Randulf.7614 said:@MithranArkanere.8957 said:@Randulf.7614 said:But you (like me) also didn't lose anything. Those getting the licence actually lost progress and their personal time towards that progress Those who actually lost out are getting compensated, not those who didn't login and were safe from issuesI didn't log in either, but I spent the time elsewhere knowing I'd end up with a potential problem in GW2. I don't deserve the mount licence compensation and rightfully wont get it. Sure I didn't do my dailies, but there are those who did their dailies and lost them. They deserve more than those who didn't log in at allAn absolute non-issue hereYou have to realize that the intention of he compensation won't change how players will feel about it, and trying to shoehorn a rationalization of it in their faces will only add insult to injury and make them feel like you are laughing at their faces.Players who didn't log in because they thought that losing 2 gold and some spirit shards and a day of daily login reward was better than risking damage to their account now are being faced with a reality in which they would have still missed those 2 gold, a bag of spirit shards and a daily login reward but in exchange get for a free mount skin. So like it or not, they will feel like they are being punished for doing what they believe was right.You can't talk people out of that feeling, and telling them to suck it up will only make things worse and add insult to injury.Well no one has been punished. People got compensation for having progress taken away - many of which were unaware of the issues at the time. Those who didn't log in lost nothing apart from potential. Potential losses and actual losses are not equal in this case.If Anet gives the mount to everyone, then those who lost progress still are no better off. And we are right back to square one.Sadly for the rest you are right. It is unfortunate players just see the reward and not the reasoning, but human nature is what it is and the compensation culture is unfortunate. Doesnt necs mean Anet should pander to it thoughWhat progress ? The only condition for getting the mount is having logged in.Every people who logged in by curiosity will be rewarded while people who waited patiently for resolution will not get anything.That's basically saying "next time, EVERYONE tries to log in so it's even more complicated to resolve the issue".That can't be right as I was logged in at one point and didn't get anything.
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@Blocki.4931 said:
@Randulf.7614 said:But you (like me) also didn't lose anything. Those getting the licence actually lost progress and their personal time towards that progress Those who actually lost out are getting compensated, not those who didn't login and were safe from issuesI didn't log in either, but I spent the time doing elsewhere knowing I'd end up with a potential problem in GW2. I don't deserve the compensation and rightfully wont get it. Sure I didn't do my dailies, but there are those who did their dailies and lost them. They deserve more than those who didn't log in at allAn absolute non-issue hereWell put!I disagree
I logged on immediately saw there was an issue on the character page, although I did log into the game but then decided to log out again as I didn't want to mess the characters up expecting they would put it right.
A lot of those if nearly all would have known there was an issue yet decided to carry on playing, That was their choice and their risk.
I play only one game only so whilst this game was not available I wasn't playing anything in fact ended up on the forum here for awhile something I don't normally do. But later when I tried to get back on the forums as the game was still being worked on I couldn't, what ever happened here got my email account locked for suspicious activity and that email is only used for GW2. Finally managed to get it unlocked after about 2 hours on a phone (2 calls). So I'm guessing the forums check to see if there is a valid email address when you log in to the forums.
So you say we didn't lose anything, well we lost time playing the game as we found there was an issue. We did not feel there was much of a choice as didn't see the point of playing when the data was incorrect.
In fact I'm only on the forum now because someone said in-game about the compensation and not receiving any came here find out why.
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@Akari Kage.1403 said:
@Sigerk.2897 said:Or you know, apply some reasonable thinking. Like; Hey, everyone is saying everything got rolled back to a few days ago. Lets check the forums. Hmm, last time this happened they were able to roll back, maybe I should stop playing until they fix it, instead of stubbornly keeping on playing and then going on the forums to say they should not roll back even though everyone in game is talking about this and the forums are full of posts about it, only because there is no official in game message. It just seems pedantic.I mean yeah, an in game notice would be nice, and I agree the communication could be better on this issue, but I can't look behind the scenes, neither can you, and they DID eventually post notifications, both here and in the support section of the website. So if you still play the game regardless of all this information just because there is no in game notice....yeah.....Unless you have problems, there is no need to come to the foruns. My progress didn t chage since Friday and I am doing missions for 2h. how the hell should I know there may be a problem? The more time it passes, without in game notice or server lockdown the more the rollback shouldn t happen.You are trying to save your 2 hours and asking others to give up, up to 3 days lose. Why should your 2 hours be more important than other peoples 3 days (approx.)?
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@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@Azala Yar.7693 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@adramhel.1493 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:You’re assuming that the data would be restored. There was a roll back several years and data was not restored. Only those who purchased things with money got compensated and it was restricted to those transactions. If you had an ultra rare scenario of like a precursor dropping, you could submit a support ticket. Beyond that, nothing else happened.you are right, but this time it's a 3 day rollback and TP is bugged currently (people are screaming in wvw map for gold lost). The main point of the post is : why the server is still up ? It should be down for maintenance even if there are no backup to restoreThe length of the rollback doesn’t matter. If there’s a rollback, it’s likely because there was no other option.It should only be down if there are integrity issues. An extremely rare case of a rollback is not one of them. You are free to not log into the game for the meantime until you feel that it will be safe for you to play again.Well if they don't restore it, my 45 character will have to sit in mothballs, as I won't waste any more time on a game that can't be maintained properly.I have a feeling that you’ll still be playing regardless.@adramhel.1493 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@adramhel.1493 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:You’re assuming that the data would be restored. There was a roll back several years and data was not restored. Only those who purchased things with money got compensated and it was restricted to those transactions. If you had an ultra rare scenario of like a precursor dropping, you could submit a support ticket. Beyond that, nothing else happened.you are right, but this time it's a 3 day rollback and TP is bugged currently (people are screaming in wvw map for gold lost). The main point of the post is : why the server is still up ? It should be down for maintenance even if there are no backup to restoreThe length of the rollback doesn’t matter. If there’s a rollback, it’s likely because there was no other option.It should only be down if there are integrity issues. An extremely rare case of a rollback is not one of them. You are free to not log into the game for the meantime until you feel that it will be safe for you to play again.it's not a rare case of rollback (it could happen, i agree with you).. there are many people reporting duplicate items (imagine people with 2x legendary items) and Trading Post is BUGGED : you sell your item for X gold but you don't receive any gold for the transaction: this is a valid reason to put the server offline until the issue is solved ESPECIALLY if no backup will be restored .They can just shut down the TP. There’s no need to shutdown the entire game.If you think that, then you should really not rely on your feelings.
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That's 45 characters not a 45 character btw.
Not sure where the post edit is, don't normally bother with the forums.
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@Ayrilana.1396 said:
@adramhel.1493 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:You’re assuming that the data would be restored. There was a roll back several years and data was not restored. Only those who purchased things with money got compensated and it was restricted to those transactions. If you had an ultra rare scenario of like a precursor dropping, you could submit a support ticket. Beyond that, nothing else happened.you are right, but this time it's a 3 day rollback and TP is bugged currently (people are screaming in wvw map for gold lost). The main point of the post is : why the server is still up ? It should be down for maintenance even if there are no backup to restoreThe length of the rollback doesn’t matter. If there’s a rollback, it’s likely because there was no other option.It should only be down if there are integrity issues. An extremely rare case of a rollback is not one of them. You are free to not log into the game for the meantime until you feel that it will be safe for you to play again.Well if they don't restore it, my 45 character will have to sit in mothballs, as I won't waste any more time on a game that can't be maintained properly.
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@Shiros Boss.3204 said:I assume Anet is assessing the situation (What happend and what damage). Then they have to make a policy howto react on this (resolving and communication). This takes a while, because they have to do this decent. So in my opinion it has no added value to react in a frustrated way at something that is not yet clear, althoug I completely understand the frustration of wasted time and/or money.
Even if they are assessing the situation they still should keep their customers informed.Even if it just- we are aware of the issue and are trying to resolve it and will keep you informed. Even that simple statement would be better than nothing.
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@Dillic.7643 said:
@NaramSin.2693 said:@Dillic.7643 said:There has been bug in 2016 where they had the same issue. They were able to rollback to the previous state. So I think the best thing to do is wait for them to restore everything.I agree, and they could send a message here in the forum stating that they are working on it, just to stop a lot of similar threads, but nothing at the moment....That's true. Maybe they are still asleep (USA GMT -8 or whatever). The communication could be better indeed. Nothing left for us to do except waiting.Well I hope they're not asleep with this issue at least not all of them. If the servers are still open all those still playing will lose anything they do presently, which is why people like myself are avoiding playing the game presently. Guess you could use it as a chatroom but not much point doing anything else atm.
They really need to make a statement at least says they're trying to resolve the issue and will keep us informed.
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@Stormwolf.8567 said:
@Azala Yar.7693 said:@Stormwolf.8567 said:@Azala Yar.7693 said:I'm pretty annoyed atm.Got a level 80 that I'd spent a lot of time on that's now gone back to 64.Got a level 2 back that I deleted and the level 54 that I started in its place of course is now gone.The dinosaur mount I got from the chest yesterday will also be gone.That's a lot of in-game hours completely wasted.All the inventory items will be set back, all the new ones gone, lost.I hope they set back because this is just not on.Yes it's annoying, but in the scheme of thingsit's only a game. Remember there are people out there dying from the crappy virus that's forcing us to sit at home playing games instead of doing our day jobs, and even more people who have are working double shifts at their day jobs caring for those sick people. Perspective is important ;)That is a completely different issue so take your perspective and shove it.Okay... if they don't fix this I've lost progress on a number of quests (including a lege weapon), at least 300 gold from the weekend's raiding / fractals / trading, plus probably another 200 gold of materials that were on the TP, 2000 gems (traded for in-game gold) ...and that's a bare minimum. And while yes it sucks, it doesn't take away the fun I had playing the game on Saturday / Sunday with the only friends I get to interact with these days, nor is it all that important in anyone's real life... if it is that important to you I would say you need to get out more, but that's probably a bad idea right now :) As other people have said, anyone that's lost real money in terms of cash->gem/gold purchases; those things will be tracked independently for audit purposes, so reimbursement is almost certain. The rest of it is meaningless in the grand scheme of things.I have 45 characters that I use, character progression is important, gold not so much. Takes time to set each character up and the logistics of getting/making the equipment needed and setting the skills to be used, I don't use other peoples set ups. If roll backs started to be a more common thing, there would be no point in playing this game.
I appreciate you have your own perspective on this matter, which is obviously not the same as mine and I don't require you to tell me how I should think, so best leave it at that.
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@Stormwolf.8567 said:
@Azala Yar.7693 said:I'm pretty annoyed atm.Got a level 80 that I'd spent a lot of time on that's now gone back to 64.Got a level 2 back that I deleted and the level 54 that I started in its place of course is now gone.The dinosaur mount I got from the chest yesterday will also be gone.That's a lot of in-game hours completely wasted.All the inventory items will be set back, all the new ones gone, lost.I hope they set back because this is just not on.Yes it's annoying, but in the scheme of thingsit's only a game. Remember there are people out there dying from the crappy virus that's forcing us to sit at home playing games instead of doing our day jobs, and even more people who have are working double shifts at their day jobs caring for those sick people. Perspective is important ;)That is a completely different issue so take your perspective and shove it.
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I'm pretty annoyed atm.Got a level 80 that I'd spent a lot of time on that's now gone back to 64.Got a level 2 back that I deleted and the level 54 that I started in its place of course is now gone.The dinosaur mount I got from the chest yesterday will also be gone.That's a lot of in-game hours completely wasted.All the inventory items will be set back, all the new ones gone, lost.
I hope they set back because this is just not on.
Historical Black Lion Chest Exclusive Dyes
in Guild Wars 2 Discussion
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They vary though out the year, on occasions they sell for more than 7s.
You sell that dye quickly you get about 30 silver and that won't vary much, yet in other chests you have a chance of 5 gold, I quite like the WvW ones.
They change the contents every so often. I have thought about just keeping the keys when dyes are on offer I'm sure some people do.