Winchester Smythe Anus III.2153
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WVW, the forgotten game mode.
Even with the buffs you've suggested, I'm not sure hammer would be competitive as a DPS, but at least it wouldn't suck.
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On 8/6/2022 at 10:21 AM, scerevisiae.1972 said:
All those builds are trash.
If you want to be a boon support / dps hybrid, play a tempest hybrid.
If you want to do actual competitive DPS, play weaver.
If you don't mind playing a trash build just for something different, then sure, try hammer catalyst.
This. There is literally no reason to ever play hammer in WVW, it's garbage tier.
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On 3/20/2022 at 9:57 PM, Rhokaz.1975 said:
Title of this thread:
Catalyist is garbage in WvW
Remove the "in WvW".
It underperforms now everywhere.Sad but true.
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Over 250 votes and more than 2/3rds voted hammer as bad or terrible. And that was before the recent nerfs.
With this level of bad feedback, people should be getting fired. You don't belong in game design if 2/3rds of your customer base hate your work.
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Just give it some ranged skills. Sword is just better than hammer at everything hammer wants to do cause the weapon design is so limited and melee-focused.
Just a stupidly-designed weapon TBH.
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Hammer so bad it made me stop playing GW2.
Sword was bad too but at least it filled a niche. Hammer has no niche. It was so poorly designed that it's only useable in PVE and directly competes in PVE with sword.
Just a really stupid, pointless weapon. No amount of buffs going to fix it. Needs serious rework to make it playable in WVW/PVP.
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1 hour ago, Kreator.3701 said:
I personally think it's a couple tweaks away from being a perfect class (imo). If hammer 3 had couple more seconds (talking 8-10 secs) and energy removed from jade sphere, I would enjoy the spec way more. I would even see more buffs on jade sphere like some stab on earth, etc.
Even if they made those changes, it would still be just another melee weapon with very limited use outside of raids and faceroll open world content, where it either makes sword obsolete, or is made obsolete by sword because they are such similar weapons.
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Well, you were certainly right, Hammer is a tremendous disappointment. I have zero interest in playing a melee Ele.
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1 hour ago, nucklepuckk.1805 said:
I did read the some of the thread and the majority of the posts are within the realm of "I want to sit in Fire all day ignoring the classes core mechanic and be rewarded for doing so." My surprise is immeasurable.
I read the Ele forums often and haven't seen a single post where anyone says this. Let alone "a majority of posts". Exaggeration much?
I think most of the hammer hate stems from the fact it's a melee weapon that doesn't have a lot of mobility nor sustain, which makes it suck everywhere but beating up golems and static raid bosses that don't move.
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On 3/5/2022 at 9:57 AM, talesbfftt.4596 said:
I don't understand why all the spheres don't do damage in WvW, 0.1 coefficient is a joke
Kinda doesn't matter cause hammer is unusable in WVW by design.
As if you would design a PVE-only weapon when Sword already solidly fills this space.
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On 3/2/2022 at 1:07 PM, Tiviana.2650 said:
I feel the same and besides it has enough melee specs.
Don't forget Staff and Scepter are the only ranged weapons Ele has had since release, 9years ago.
Warhorn was mostly melee, Sword completely melee, and now Hammer nearly completely melee. Character creation screen says Ele "favours ranged".... WTF is going on?
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On 3/2/2022 at 2:02 PM, Paradoxoglanis.1904 said:
No changes to hammer since the beta. I guess we have to accept that its only use is for dps benchmarks.
Yep. Incredible. Sword already fills this space pretty well, though it needs its own minor tweaks.
I think it's ridiculous that Anet would add another raid-only weapon when Staff and Scepter are the only ranged weapons that Ele has had for 9 straight years.
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18 hours ago, crazyhusky.2985 said:
I don't know why Anet made Hammer 600 range, its stupid as it doesn't fit game mode, no other class has a 600 range weapon or attacks.
It's not even 600 range. Most of the skills (3/4?) are melee. It's not even a 600 range weapon, let alone how bad 600 range is in this game.
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20 hours ago, Barnesy.5839 said:
Catalyst could be such an awesome class if you just fix the clunkiness! The biggest offenders are jade sphere and hammer. Some traits could also be tweaked to make them more viable.
Disagree, the whole spec has nothing going for it. It's just core ele with a bonus field. Who cares.
You're right that hammer is god-awful but I don't think a few tweaks will fix it. The entire design of it as yet another melee weapon is wrong.
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On 2/22/2022 at 11:10 AM, SlitheSlivier.1908 said:
PvE benchmarks still make no difference in pvp or wvw. Hammer and catalyst traits do not have nearly enough movement or defense to play against human players. Weaver gives you swiftness and lots of barrier and good amount of vigor while also giving damage output multipliers. Catalyst gives strait up multipliers with maybe a hint of a boon here and mayyybe there, and hammer has 2 movement skills with only 2 disables (one of which is an ungodly slow projectile). It also doesn't have any fields except jade orb and minimal finishers (which I think are also all melee range except that very slow projectile).
There just isn't any defensive utility that a low-hp, low-armor class needs to stay competetive in a fight.
Yeah hammer is total dogshit in WVW. Sword was dogshit too but at least it was a good duelling weapon.
If you want to play Ele in zerg, you're stuck playing staff/dagger same as it has been for the past 9 years.
It's like Anet is begging me to switch games.
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We can argue the finer details of whether XYZ skill/weapon is melee/ranged/hybrid but I don't think it would change the overall picture. I kinda knew Ele was the more melee-oriented of the light armour classes but I didn't think it was as bad as this lol.
In making hammer a dagger/sword-style melee weapon, Anet clearly want Ele to be a melee caster. Yeah like a lot of Ele players I am super disappointed with hammer but the simple fact is if you want to play a ranged caster class then mesmer or necro is the better choice. Harbinger and Virtuoso are both solid ranged caster specs.
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1 minute ago, scerevisiae.1972 said:
There's really no getting away from the conclusion that Hammer was the weapon that noone wanted, and even if hammer were the first melee weapon for Ele (instead of the third), it would still not be a good weapon.
QFT
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On 2/12/2022 at 9:35 PM, Sifu.9745 said:
Fire Hammer should be 1200 range.
Air 900 range.
Water anything from 300 to 900 would work.
Earth 130 up to max 240 range with a boost to survivability and/or dmg.
Yes. Strong agree.
Hammer never going to be used outside of raids/useless golem benchmarks unless something is done to make it not so melee-based.
I like the 600 range cone AOE idea but SOME skills should be 900+ range as well.
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I think having 2 semi-ranged elements and 2 pure melee is really stupid and feelsbadman so personally I'd be happy with anything that gives me more ranged skills so hammer doesn't feel like just another melee weapon that's competing with sword and dagger.
Cone AOEs would be cool, nice idea.
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17 hours ago, Kain Francois.4328 said:
From my point of view, Ele LACKS melee options.
Ele has more melee weapons (3) than ranged (2), and more melee weapons than necro (2) and mesmer (2) (the other "main" casters).
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On 12/6/2021 at 2:40 AM, Flori.2194 said:
I have seen Grimjack play in the games yesterday (french worms against team usa) and even in an all eod specs meta catalyst sucked hard. And when the games after a worm played catalyst they were feeding as well. Even Teapot admitted that Catalyst might not be best suited for pvp...
just watched this stream now and yeah USA got farmed and Grimjack fed hard on Catalyst...
I also note he switched from hammer to D/D after losing 500-0... and still didn't achieve much. lol yeah sure Grimjack, Cata doesn't need improvements... lol
And this is in a mostly dead game mode that doesn't punish slow/immobile/melee range builds like hammer Cata.
Regardless, the real issue here is that Ele didn't need another melee range bruiser weapon because dagger and sword already fill that space and frankly do it better anyway.
All of which means hammer is not just trash, it's redundant trash.
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On 12/2/2021 at 11:37 AM, Zephyrus.9680 said:
Air 4 is literally my favorite skill on the hammer set. It's the earth and fire skills, water 4, and all the #3 skills that need a ton of work (rework).
I think the problem is that it's unreliable. IT's not a bad skill but I wish it made you go forward not backward.
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Hated hammer so much I asked for a refund. I just can't see them changing it enough that it will be playable in WVW.
Also because I have no interest in fishing, skiffs, generic gen3 legendaries... nothing for me to look forward to.
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Agree, the hammer is already very clunky and energy just makes it even more clunky.
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(Lack of) identify of hammer
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Agree 100% that Hammer should be a true mixed melee/ranged weapon and not the 90% melee weapon it is now. But this is Anet, who'll happily leave utility skills in the dumpster for 5+ years before making them relevant and useful while churning out BLTC skins every other week. They don't care.