[About the people who won't get free Curious Creatures Mount Select License after the rollback]

Gosh, I think I would have felt a bit sick to the stomach logging in to that kind of a mess. :astonished: I can understand why some of you are not playing until this is resolved.Holding thumbs that it gets sorted out soon! Please keep keep us posted.

(First time I've heard someone say they are an experienced player for playing on a crappy server... Can I say I'm an experienced player cos I have crappy internet and live super far from the servers? :p )

[About the people who won't get free Curious Creatures Mount Select License after the rollback]

@Jolanda.1568 said:I am wondering if there are people who didnt log in last Monday on purpose (and obviously didnt receive the Mount license) have started to sent tickets about this issue? If yes, did you get a reply and what was the reply? Since I gathered some information from the forums here (and ´finally´ got my Bonfire yesterday late evening, no Mount license) I would like to sent a ticket myself sooner or later.

@"Kasemdria.7138" said:As long as governments don't find this thread... it might give them ideas for businesses forced to close during lockdown. "You are not losing anything. You were doing something else when your shop was closed. Sales that

could

have happened if your shop was open

may not

have happened also. Have a sandwich for the inconvenience." :o

I understand your point of view. I think a difference here is that Anet staff is able to see who are

active players

. Like, players who have done dailies every day for the last month for example. And, wow, at all sudden

they didnt log in on that particular day and time

...

Why would that be

...In other words: these players have lost progress as well. Like 10 AP dailies, SAB dailies, or whatever they do on a daily gameplay. The reason these active players didnt log in last Monday is simply because they either knew their progress from Monday will get lost or were afraid to harm more damage/annoyance/etc to the servers. It is just not recorded in Anets logs/servers or however that works and only because of that they dont receive the right compensation. And lets be honest, the Bonfire really isnt the right compensation.. Every EU player who logged in at least

once

in the past 30 days will receive one (of which some are propbably not even aware of that happened last Monday) and you can even get one for free from the Gemstore now.

My comment may have not been very clear. I am in the camp where I have an account that got a mount license (it's my wife's account, but we just share stuff, so I've been dyeing the new mount on various characters and having fun with it.) and I really think Anet should have just given all the EU accounts a mount. I was merely applying what some people's logic to other aspects in life with a bit of tongue in cheek.

There have been a wide range of stances on this whole debacle, some of which have been interesting to read (@Randulf.7614 comes to mind. While they don't share my view, they have posted some very valid points while keeping their observations level-headed and decent). I still believe the core matter was:

1. Crap happened on the EU servers.
2. Anet said they wanted to compensate for the downtime, thus holding themselves to something.
3. Compensation happens, giving people the benefit of the doubt of whether they were affected by the potential loss of the weekend / the rollback of the Monday / the lack of access on the Tuesday. I was personally affected by all three things, but (again personally) the first caused me the most stress. It will be different for others.

[About the people who won't get free Curious Creatures Mount Select License after the rollback]

As long as governments don't find this thread... it might give them ideas for businesses forced to close during lockdown. "You are not losing anything. You were doing something else when your shop was closed. Sales that could have happened if your shop was open may not have happened also. Have a sandwich for the inconvenience." :o

[About the people who won't get free Curious Creatures Mount Select License after the rollback]

@"IndigoSundown.5419" said:ANet was under no obligation to compensate players who were inconvenienced. Not only does the ToS address such issues, I'm pretty sure there is a "kitten happens" clause in life. However, they did choose to compensate some of the players who were inconvenienced, but not all of them.

Sure, there is no way for them to know who didn't log in because of the announcement about the problem and who was not going to log in at all. Maybe reward any active players who either did or might have logged in. That would have been a classier move than what they did. It would also have shown consideration for a broader range of players who were impacted. As it is, the "compensation" is just more ANet pouring water on a fire in the hope it will go away with the least fuss.

I know Anet was under no obligation, but then don't tell everyone:"We apologize for the frustration and inconvenience this incident caused and are exploring ways to make up the downtime to our player community."That was where the first snag came in. Because everyone on the EU servers were affected by the downtime. Don't tell them that, and then split it further. And THEN stuff it up by not delivering to those that meet the criteria, over delivering because....I don't even know.... etc.I'm just very relieved that the account I was on got compensation, as I was playing on my wife's account and in the middle of Tequatl switched to Map chat and freaked out. I thought I had lost all her SAB Tribulation weapons after reading about progress loss and checking her SAB achievements - and seeing them all gone! Then waiting....and WAITING to see what the hell the maintenance would yield. I know loot was lost from my play session on Monday - maybe auctions...I have no idea, but that paled in comparison to waiting during the downtime to see if our stuff from the weekend would be fixed. :s

[I"m so sick and tired of this cast]

@"bobsort.4097" said:I would go "Game of Thrones" mode all the way and kill them by a random non-famous character in game then make those, famous and then kill them too. What is the use if at least 10 of the cast doesn't die at the end of each episode

I would probably lose interest in GW2 like I did with Game of Thrones if they did that... :o By the end of season 3 of Game of Thrones I stopped watching cos there was no point. I could see that it was just a plot mess where the "bad guys" were conveniently kept around long enough to get the "good guys". Note I say "long enough". It was pretty much evident that the plot was just a "everyone's gonna dieeeeeee!" So...yeah.... Once you figure it out, you just need the final episode to see the lone soul who won at the end... I heard the last episode isn't worth watching though...

On topic though, I always liked Trahearne. Calm and inclined to introversion and introspecting. No drama. People used to complain about him always dying and needing to be ressed on personal stories? I don't recall ever having him die (well....except that one time....where it's actually part of the story...)... Although, I was always running ahead to get to the combat before the npcs. I love my toon... <3

[Server Maintenance Reward is super unfair]

@Virdo.1540 said:I think every player which got problems with Rollback over the weekend AND wasnt able to play the SAB or Gw2 at all FOR OVER A DAY should receive the Mount skin.

I know if I had a choice on compensation, it would have been to have the lost days of SAB given by extending it for the duration of the time lost to rollback/downtime, but that's me personally. I already have tons of mount skins, and whilst another one is great to get, the SAB time loss was sad. I feel for anyone who did Tribulation mode and lost tokens for that or fell short with tokens due to the interruption! I was lucky to have wrapped up my Tribulation modes on Saturday!

I appreciate the compensation but felt everyone on the EU servers should get a mount skin.

[Server Maintenance Reward is super unfair]

@"darksome.1697" said:

Yes, and for that missed "potential playtime", you get a bonfire as compensation.

I guess this is what the world gets when it started rewarding kids for failing, because you know, can't upset kids. Now they've grown up, still expecting to be rewarded for things they haven't even done. Hey that guy that got hit by a car got 100.000 in damages, not fair. I could potentially have been hit by that car too!

This is not a reward. It is compensation. Part of the things disrupted was the downtime, the rollback, people seeing their weekend progress disappear, people seeing their progress on Monday disappear, people losing access to SAB and the dailies that SAB brought, people who had raid schedules for Monday, etc. Anyone who was active over the weekend and Monday, or was trying to login over the downtime were affected. It's neither here nor there. If there is going to be compensation, it should be for anyone in that group, because one way or another they were affected.

[Server Maintenance Reward is super unfair]

@"darksome.1697" said:

1. You and some friends decide to go on a holiday. You can't take the same plane as them, because you have to work that day, so you decide they should go on an earlier flight because they can, and you will join them later taking another plane. They go to the airport in the morning while you're at work, and find out that their plane is delayed. So they sit around at the airport all day, while you're working. The airline can't seem to fix the plane, so they contact everyone on later flights to let them know they shouldn't go to the airport because they won't be able to fly that day. Since you're still at work, you decide to go home after work and finally when there's no more news, go to sleep. Your friends however who has been stuck at the airport all day, gets compensation for this. The airline gives them a free dinner and a hotel room for the night. The next day, you show up at the airport because now the plane is fixed so you can travel. The airline decides everyone should get a free meal on the plane because everyone was affected by this delay. Now, you get offended by this free meal "reward" because your friends got a free dinner and a free night at a hotel, demanding to get a free dinner and a night at a hotel too. Really?

Actually, you show up for your flight but there are no planes at all. You keep showing the ticket desk your ticket and the person at the desk keeps saying "Sorry. Our system is offline. The planes are all grounded. You'll just have to keep trying." A whole lot of other people are there with you, also with tickets. You all have a festival you're attending that is going to be ending the next day (SAB), and you have things you are wanting to get from the festival before it shuts down.You keep trying... you keep waving your tickets... and the system stays offline for the day... The festival is gone by the time you catch your flight.

[About the people who won't get free Curious Creatures Mount Select License after the rollback]

I'm kind of surprised. I thought the compensation would be for loss in general. Some people lost progress, but everyone lost game time. Some people lost SAB access. I didn't think Anet would hand out a mount license - I honestly thought they would give some small token of apology and maybe extend SAB for the EU servers due to time lost. Yes, there was a rollback, but there was also downtime. Yes, some people logged in and lost progress, but some people also tried to log in once the servers were down and couldn't get in. And obviously, some people also would have wanted to play over the server downtime.

To give to some and not others that were affected by the server issues - Come on! Everyone was affected! Just in different ways!

[[Suggestions]QoL (Quality of Life) Ideas [Merged]]

Meeting Orders on TP:When meeting orders, there is a chance the order has already been met (as listings don't live refresh). Instead of automatically listing your items for the order price you were intending to meet, rather bring up a message saying the person's order has been met/no longer available, or waiver the listing fee. The unintended listing fee can hurt.

[Official Mount Adoption Feedback Thread [merged]]

@Draco.5014 said:

(On a side note: my last line took things to a very dark place I realised. O_o After living the past couple of years fighting to have your voice heard over some big issues and being told you're just fussing or a minority so who cares, speaking about what I think about mount skin RNG and black lion chests feels so small... :'( I think I need a hug... )

hugs

Thanks ^_^ I needed that.

@therapite.3645 said:I'm going to chime in here with:

I spent a little real money on something that made me happy for about an hour. I didn't do the math, I just wanted a chance at something shiny and I actually got one. The RNG Gods hate me and I actually got the thing that I wanted and I was running around on it and got told by multiple people what an awful person I was, how stupid I looked, how I was feeding the beast or whatever, and how I should be ashamed of myself.

People messaging you like that is horrid. You should be ashamed of yourself??? Excuse me? Like someone else mentioned, please just report these people and block them. While I'm not in favour of the RNG aspect and won't be buying the mounts (unless there is some fat special and I'm feeling lucky - which I never really feel with RNG. Hahaha.), me not having the mounts doesn't then give me a license to be a git to others who do want them. Shame, my SO and I got so upset and worked up hearing this story that I had to respond to it.

Just know that they're probably angry and jealous, so the fault is all with them for being so nasty at you instead of coming here and telling Anet directly.

Oh, and congrats on getting the one you want first time. ^_^

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@PopeUrban.2578 said:I've been saying the same thing about black lion chests for quite a while. Hilariously nobody cared about the exploitative real money RNG until it walled off something they actually wanted and they had to pay for it themselves in stead of getting some other anonymous player to do it for them.

Truth be told, I've steered clear from the Black Lion Chests because that had alarm bells all over. Sure, I would get a surprise key now and then via drop or after a story step, but I wouldn't spend money on RNG like that. I saw exclusive special skins that I liked in those boxes, and just faced the fact that I couldn't have them and moved on. I honestly don't understand those that do buy Black Lion Chest keys in a dogged attempt to get that one item. It is bad, and maybe I was naive to think that people couldn't possibly cave and throw tons of money at Black Lion Keys simply because I wasn't doing the same.

I guess I just didn't come to the forums and say anything about the fact I couldn't get skins I wanted cos they were gated behind RNG, but I honestly didn't feel it was important enough. Maybe I should have? I don't know.

I've made my statement about the mounts though, but when I look at it, I am just a bit disappointed - it will pass and I will move on. At the end of the day, my opinion / wants / needs are just a drop in that very vast ocean, and I have been reminded of that with things far more important to me than exclusive gliders in a Black Lion Chest.

(On a side note: my last line took things to a very dark place I realised. O_o After living the past couple of years fighting to have your voice heard over some big issues and being told you're just fussing or a minority so who cares, speaking about what I think about mount skin RNG and black lion chests feels so small... :'( I think I need a hug... )

[Official Mount Adoption Feedback Thread [merged]]

I love some of the new skins - the one's with new markings and patterns to be specific. Seeing more variation in the models would be nice. I liked that some of the models did have subtle changes to them (griffons and skimmers with different tails, raptors with different horn structures). I'm not such a fan of the sparkly/burning skins.

I won't partake in the RNG because I don't have a griffon and I don't want the "fancy" skins. Buying the whole bundle is too overwhelming - I don't need 6 new skins of every mount all in one go. I did buy the Halloween bundle, so that's enough "fancy" for me, and these latest mounts take the effects to very sparkly levels. A bundle of one of each mount at 1600 gems was fine and probably the maximum amount I would spend in a go in the gemstore, and I don't mind the Halloween griffon skin sitting for a while until I do decide I would like the griffon mount.

I'm glad you can't get duplicates via this new RNG system, so people can try their luck without being stuck with 2 of the same skin. 400 gems per skin is a very fair price, I would say. I guess its worth it if you want most of the mounts and are happy to swallow the chance at getting one you don't want. It's not worth it if you only want 1 to say 5 mount skins in the bundle.

So yes, I'm sad I can't get a new skin for each of my 4 mounts, but so life goes.