[Balance Patch Preview - WvW]

@Voltekka.2375 said:Please, I am all ears. What is broken? Thanks for your input!Condi will get affected, as well.

I understand condi will get affected as well, but the majority of condi changes (at least that I've read through) are more in line with moving condis between abilities rather than restricting access to them altogether. For example, looking through the Rev patchnotes with one of my guildies already shows ways to put out a disturbing about of torment that we didn't have access to before.

As far as things that are broken, the first two examples I have off the top of my head of things that are functionally broken are Rev sword 3 / Soulbeast smokescale 2 (I think), you waste jumps on terrain or un-targettable objects like sentry posts, supply depots, and walls. Other things like the auto-proc balanced stance on warrior that negates the move that set it off without charging a stack of stability are plain not fair to other players, in my opinion. Then you run into builds that, granted, I might just not be skilled at fighting, but ones like Mirage that have unlimited evasion/distortion while also doing max condi damage where you have to rely on the player making a mistake more than being able to make an opening for yourself and being able to counterplay.

I'd like to point out just to be clear, I'm by no means an expert on what's broken or isn't, and I've had the idea behind the patch explained to me in a positive way, but I still feel this is skirting the issue of fixing important mechanics or skills that would greatly benefit the QoL in the game mode, while trying to keep the player base from looking at those issues too hard.

[Balance Patch Preview - WvW]

@"Voltekka.2375" said:"They gonna nerf my class! Yes, yes, it may have been a tad overpowered in terms of boons and mobility and damage and disengages and yes, it has carried me for months/years and yes, I jump from broken class plus build to another broken class plus build cause it does give me a sense of superiority, but THEY GONNA NERF MA CLASS! DED GAEM IMA MOVE TO ANOTHER GAEM "Reminds me of the kids we used to play football with as children, those kids who owned the ball and threatened to leave if everyone else didnt so their bidding.Good riddance.

You cry for balance for years. You claim wvw is neglected for years. You feel this mode has been damaged cause of powercreep. But the ONE time a patch of this magnitude comes, everyone suddenly somehow remembers the game was fairly balanced. If the mode is/were in life support, this may kill it or revive it. Why do you cry for change, when you fear it so much?

Wanting a positive change, and having the entire combat system reworked in a way that negatively effects anyone not playing condi on every single class are not the same thing.

In other news, I think whoever decided to nerf the entire game should be fired; this is not a positive change that is going to benefit everyone and make a better supported, more fun gamemode, and there are much better ways they should have gone about doing this. Why break the stuff that works if you're not going to fix the things that are broken?