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    Can we have an honest conversation about "Outfits?"

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    At the end of the day if ANet just keeps making outfits no matter what, at least they could add in lots of regular clothing, NPC's have some cool clothes too sometimes, seen a few pretty dresses here and there and even swim wear in Southsun Cove which I am still surprised didn't make a Gem Store debut during summer yet especially in a game that already has a speedo donning Lord Faren and Bikini rocking Kasmeer.

    Can we have an honest conversation about "Outfits?"

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    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @"Shmanka.4628" said:Can we have an honest conversation about "Outfits?"What makes you think we haven't already had an "honest" conversation about it?

    Comments like yours.

    Why I think Outfits are bad for the game;
    1. They allow no level of customization, with the exception of dyes.That limits the appeal, to be sure. But it's hardly "bad" for the game; just bad for some people.

    End game is mostly cosmetic so yes it is bad especially when the game has such a wonderful dye / wardrobe system.

    1. The purchase in the Gem Store is never worth it financially compared to Weapon Skins or Armor Skins, heck... even Glider and Mount Skins.I don't think you can put a worth on it, for other people. Clearly some folks love them, which is why ANet keeps delivering them.

    Anet keep delivering them because people buy them, but they don't have any other choices, if there was both an armor set and an outfit of the same look for the same price people would buy the armor set more because they like that more, we're just not given the option.

    1. Some of the outfits are tailored towards some races better than others, it's intuitive that Sylvari, Norn and Human get more aesthetic appeal than Asura or Charr.This is also subjective, but moot: it's also true for any skin in the game; some (non-cultural) work best for some people for a certain race, some don't work well on any race, and some are universally good.

    Not even sure why you responded to this since yes it is subjective, who cares.

    Why I think Outfits are good for the game;
    1. They help bring some Nostalgia and tie in Lore to customers like myself.
    2. They can bring in looks that are "out of world"These can also true for non-outfits.

    Here you agree that these two qualities are not unique to outfits, armor skins can do the same.

    1. They are purely cosmetic and offer no functional in-game differences.That's literally the game's design: cosmetics have nothing to do with functionality.However, you forgot:
    2. It's far, far cheaper for ANet to deliver outfits than armor sets. The one-size-fits-all design means that they don't have to worry about clipping, the only have to worry about four dye channels (rather than 12-24), and they have more scaling options.

    First of all clipping is not an issue, there are TONS of things in the game that clip everywhere. Players should be the judge while mixing and matching skins, sometimes clipping can make something actually work too. It's part of customization to explore and try combinations you like.

    Secondly of course it takes more development time to make an armor set, but since end game is cosmetic to most players they should utilize their wardrobe and dye system to the max with armor skins, I bet more players would own or buy more from them if they could use them to mix and match and combine with each other.

    I know personally I would purchase more items from the Gem Store if they were individualistic armor pieces.Are you prepared to spend 8-9 times more on armor pieces than on outfits? Do you think that the community overall is willing to do that?

    Yes I am sure many of us would have no problem spending money to support a game we love if it made choices we liked, and in this case since you are referring to someone who wants armor skins, the choice we like would be investing Dev time into armor skins, so yes, let me pay more please thanks.

    Nice try though.

    Can we have an honest conversation about "Outfits?"

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    @"Shmanka.4628" said:It's probably the most frustrating item in every Gem Store purchase. I was about to purchase the Primeval Dervish Armor because of my GW1 Nostalgia, then, I stopped myself. It's an outfit. Again...

    Why I think Outfits are bad for the game;

    1. They allow no level of customization, with the exception of dyes.
    2. The purchase in the Gem Store is never worth it financially compared to Weapon Skins or Armor Skins, heck... even Glider and Mount Skins.
    3. Some of the outfits are tailored towards some races better than others, it's intuitive that Sylvari, Norn and Human get more aesthetic appeal than Asura or Charr.

    Why I think Outfits are good for the game;

    1. They help bring some Nostalgia and tie in Lore to customers like myself.
    2. They can bring in looks that are "out of world"
    3. They are purely cosmetic and offer no functional in-game differences.

    I would propose that the GW2 Team heavily consider changing all outfits to individual armor pieces, and discontinue outfits how they are currently made. I know personally I would purchase more items from the Gem Store if they were individualistic armor pieces.

    Totally agree please Anet spend the time to make armor pieces and I will spend much more money on gems to buy them thank you, I so wish i could use the human wedding dress heels as a boot skin ;(

    I would rather have the dev time spent on making armor pieces and just let players worry about clipping and mixing and matching dying each piece that's what end game is about anyways, fashion wars.

    Feedback: Official Path of Fire Feedback Thread

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    Flat out loved everything about PoF except one thing, the Meta events in HoT were better, PoF for me was a quick play through and then I put the game down. When HoT came out I was farming events for over a year. I really feel like HoT executed bringing people together event wise better than PoF. So instead of playing I have been just waiting for the next expansion :'(

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