[The state of Serpent's Ire - The experience of a frustrated player]

@Kiza.5630 said:

@DragonBiscuit.2478 said:

I find it a bit unfair to call it utterly terrible, considering that I've used this build for most of my game time till now and hasn't failed me. Not sure if I could've speced with something else, and I'm not above advice to improve, but this is what I use during most of my running around in open world.

What they wanted to tell you is that, in the specific event that Serpents' Ire is, builds that bring virtually no CC are useless. Sure it may bring damage to the table and heal ppl. But in case of this event: no CC = no dmg and since none are taking dmg in phase 2 = heal is useless. Minimal self heal every class brings is enough there. Bottom line: if everyone in the group would do that, the event will never succeed.

Also it doesn't matter much that you need heal for phase 3 because if you die, you can just change builds at the waypoint again. Phase 3 cannot fail, at least I have never seen it fail. Even if we killed Pekt multiple times.

Fair enough, and I do agree that heal on phase 2 is not needed, I get that. What I'm confused about is what I could've done differently in this particular case. I have six skills that deal CC, Flesh Golem being on a higher cooldown so I can understand that it's not as reliable.

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@Stalkingwolf.6035 said:

@Ashantara.8731 said:

@DragonBiscuit.2478 said:I've tried this event numerous times over the past few monthes, having done it twice today with more organised groups from LFG and via a host from a guild. Not once have I seen past phase 2 of the event.

Don't blame ANet, blame the players who have come this far (i.e., to play an expansion) and still don't know what CC means and when to use it.

Then again, you

can

blame ANet for not having any decent tutorials for the basic game mechanics in place.

Did they change the reward? Because often there were not enough players, because there is no reward.And for that you can blame anet.

Current rewards according to the GW2 wiki:Chest of the Bazaar Raider (once a day per character)Intact Mosaic (0-1)Chest of the Desert Specialist (0-1)Recipe: The Twins' Grieving Insignia (0-1)Elegy Mosaics

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@Blood Red Arachnid.2493 said:

@DragonBiscuit.2478 said:

@RubberDougie.2750 said:

@DragonBiscuit.2478 said:Alright, let me paint the picture. For a few months now I have been trying to finish the achievements for the Funerary armor set, which is a bit time consuming. Not the worst thing ever but it takes its time. All was going fine until the last step, which required me to finish Serpent's Ire to complete the Exaltation of the Guardians collection. That's where my progress came to a screeching halt.I've tried this event numerous times over the past few monthes, having done it twice today with more organised groups from LFG and via a host from a guild. Not once have I seen past phase 2 of the event.I understand that PoF had this problem for a while now, all the way back to October or earlier. It's officialy 2019 and people still don't run this meta due to it being very hard to pull of with pubs and not giving good rewards for your effort - in short, not worth it.At this point I'm honestly debating whether or not the fashion is worth it, considering how many hours I've spent trying to finish one meta event and not once succeeding (and I can imagine that people share this sentiment, since this event is needed for other collections as well). I feel that it's about time for this to be adressed from the side of the developers.

Link us your build. The common denominator for failure is you. Let us see your CCs

I severly doubt that the fault falls sorely on my build but sure, I'll humor you.

gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQRBIfhG2JJNQTvYpNgrNA7NYpbwmeADgAAVHYEUo07pD1kKA-jxwGABss/AAnEAyfCAAA-e

That build is utterly terrible. You're running the lowest CCPS spec in the game, while equipped to do healing against a group of enemies that don't fight back. If those are the utilities you bring to phase 2, then you've effectively been dead weight.

I find it a bit unfair to call it utterly terrible, considering that I've used this build for most of my game time till now and hasn't failed me. Not sure if I could've speced with something else, and I'm not above advice to improve, but this is what I use during most of my running around in open world.

Incidentally I runned Serpent's Ire last night, talked it out with my group's lieutenant and the rest of the subgroup and we decided that this utility was fine (if you disagree then please tell me what you would've done different). We managed to go all the way to phase 3 and clear the event last night after monthes of trying on my part in unorganised groups. To say that I'm happy would be an understatement.

I'm not saying that this build is the best thing ever but it works for me. Since it's out there already any feedback is appreciated.

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@RubberDougie.2750 said:

@"DragonBiscuit.2478" said:Alright, let me paint the picture. For a few months now I have been trying to finish the achievements for the Funerary armor set, which is a bit time consuming. Not the worst thing ever but it takes its time. All was going fine until the last step, which required me to finish Serpent's Ire to complete the Exaltation of the Guardians collection. That's where my progress came to a screeching halt.I've tried this event numerous times over the past few monthes, having done it twice today with more organised groups from LFG and via a host from a guild. Not once have I seen past phase 2 of the event.I understand that PoF had this problem for a while now, all the way back to October or earlier. It's officialy 2019 and people still don't run this meta due to it being very hard to pull of with pubs and not giving good rewards for your effort - in short, not worth it.At this point I'm honestly debating whether or not the fashion is worth it, considering how many hours I've spent trying to finish one meta event and not once succeeding (and I can imagine that people share this sentiment, since this event is needed for other collections as well). I feel that it's about time for this to be adressed from the side of the developers.

Link us your build. The common denominator for failure is you. Let us see your CCs

I severly doubt that the fault falls sorely on my build but sure, I'll humor you.

gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQRBIfhG2JJNQTvYpNgrNA7NYpbwmeADgAAVHYEUo07pD1kKA-jxwGABss/AAnEAyfCAAA-e

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Speaking of it, if anyone wants to do it today on EU: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/au6luy/serpents_ire_eu/

Might be able to join as well. So anyone who wants to do the collection, try it. And: always assume you are the only player using CC. ;)

Well count me in, worst case scenario I'll fail again. Wouldn't be the first time. :p

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@Auburner.6945 said:I would say the scaling on this event is a bit off. In Istan for example, you may have 100 players and still break Iberu's bar or 15 (did it as 15 a lot) and still also break the bar because the break bar scales in a good manner. Serpent's Ire, however, kind of lacks the scaling, and given the constant break bars all the time, good luck always having the perfect combination of CC and Damage, which makes classes like ele extremely useless in such meta, I am not playing raids so that I can't play my main. Also, the event scales for 50 players, yet each 10 separate to take care of 1 zealot, which means that a 50-players scaled event is tough for 10-players sub-groups. I only succeeded in this meta twice and both times were really close calls.

I love how hard it is but there are things to hold into account. First, not all classes have the same capabilities, so even I, as ele and know what cc means, I can't help in any way. Second, not all players know what cc even means, given the insta-break in Dragon's Stand. Third, not all players know the damaging rotation or something as near in damage, so that even if cc is well-known, the damage isn't enough.

Agreed, I certainly like a challenge when it comes to events and content in general. I'd like to consider myself a decent player at best, since I get how mechanics work and when to use certain skills.

As for Serpent's Ire I agree that some adjustement on the scaling and the rewards is in order, since finding people to do this with without lfg or a guild host is a nightmare to deal with. Taking into account that people still do HoT metas after so many years it's rather disheartening seeing everything but bounty trains being abandoned in PoF.

[The state of Serpent's Ire - The experience of a frustrated player]

Alright, let me paint the picture. For a few months now I have been trying to finish the achievements for the Funerary armor set, which is a bit time consuming. Not the worst thing ever but it takes its time. All was going fine until the last step, which required me to finish Serpent's Ire to complete the Exaltation of the Guardians collection. That's where my progress came to a screeching halt.I've tried this event numerous times over the past few monthes, having done it twice today with more organised groups from LFG and via a host from a guild. Not once have I seen past phase 2 of the event.I understand that PoF had this problem for a while now, all the way back to October or earlier. It's officialy 2019 and people still don't run this meta due to it being very hard to pull of with pubs and not giving good rewards for your effort - in short, not worth it.At this point I'm honestly debating whether or not the fashion is worth it, considering how many hours I've spent trying to finish one meta event and not once succeeding (and I can imagine that people share this sentiment, since this event is needed for other collections as well). I feel that it's about time for this to be adressed from the side of the developers.