Nashada.9436

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lol It's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief. If u read anything in this discussion it isn’t about nerfing and it’s not a nerf thief thread as that implies I think it’s over performing in some way which is a separate matter and tbh I generally avoid those topic entirely. This is mostly about exploitable and unintended changes and balance in general which any thief main should think about before random classes you think are over performing. Basically a real thief main should be worried about unintended results of class mechanics as this will prevent non thief mains or other thief mains from being forced to play something that is unintendly overperforming in some categories for no logical reason.Tbh why would I be goading over nerf necro thread if I’m a thief main and there’s clearly something I can do to provide accurate feedback on my classes interaction in pvp. To say otherwise seems more like random hate mail and completely unconstructive. Nothing you mentioned seemed remotely exploitable, otherwise, these things would be exploited..? Lol Yet on paper they all are and even some are completely unintended and can have huge impact. So you are proven wrong. "on paper" this "on paper" thatYou really have no idea what you're talking about, huh? Show me a video of you 'abusing' said mechanics and I'll believe you play Thief lol No I really don’t have to post a video this forum discussion has nothing to do with videos and mentioning so is where you are very very wrong. Facts don’t lie and I don’t have to post a video when u can look up the numbers and calculate these things on your own So basically you're pulling things out of thin air? Cool, good to know. Nah u just saying random stuff. I have an idea why don’t u post a video that proves I don’t play thief think about it is it possible to prove with a video becuz that’s u post rn...That entire reply barely even made sense.If you propose an argument for something then give ample evidence to prove your point, especially when multiple people already pointed out how what you were saying is wrong 1.)u never made arguement2.) as I recall most post on this thread were good and most ppl who said something was incorrect had completely invalid arguements- such as a short icd will mess up core mechanics when in reality even with swindlers equilibrium there will never be a time you get steal back in less than 5s, and therefore is invalidAgain most post were positive until like your random ones and ones with absolutely invalid arguements like saying tooth stab isn’t in pvp, which is wrong.Ben himself said balance recommendations need to be logical. If some idiot comes here sperging and posting random stuff that means absolutely nothing to me... If you fail to see my argument in the last few replies then you’re dense. An arguement is your wrong because so and so. U came here and just said you are wrong. Hence why you don’t have an argument or I guess as you claim that you do than you just have an arguement which is invalid, which is pretty silly. In fact most of your post are clearly a joke as you think I need to prove that I play thief and post videos of it to prove that your already invalid arguement is no more than random trollingMy argument is for you to back up your claims. Don't talk to me about " the facts being on paper" and show me solid evidence of you performing the aforementioned exploits. If you cannot abuse the listed mechanics then there is no reason to put effort into fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lol It's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief. If u read anything in this discussion it isn’t about nerfing and it’s not a nerf thief thread as that implies I think it’s over performing in some way which is a separate matter and tbh I generally avoid those topic entirely. This is mostly about exploitable and unintended changes and balance in general which any thief main should think about before random classes you think are over performing. Basically a real thief main should be worried about unintended results of class mechanics as this will prevent non thief mains or other thief mains from being forced to play something that is unintendly overperforming in some categories for no logical reason.Tbh why would I be goading over nerf necro thread if I’m a thief main and there’s clearly something I can do to provide accurate feedback on my classes interaction in pvp. To say otherwise seems more like random hate mail and completely unconstructive. Nothing you mentioned seemed remotely exploitable, otherwise, these things would be exploited..? Lol Yet on paper they all are and even some are completely unintended and can have huge impact. So you are proven wrong. "on paper" this "on paper" thatYou really have no idea what you're talking about, huh? Show me a video of you 'abusing' said mechanics and I'll believe you play Thief lol No I really don’t have to post a video this forum discussion has nothing to do with videos and mentioning so is where you are very very wrong. Facts don’t lie and I don’t have to post a video when u can look up the numbers and calculate these things on your own So basically you're pulling things out of thin air? Cool, good to know. Nah u just saying random stuff. I have an idea why don’t u post a video that proves I don’t play thief think about it is it possible to prove with a video becuz that’s u post rn...That entire reply barely even made sense.If you propose an argument for something then give ample evidence to prove your point, especially when multiple people already pointed out how what you were saying is wrong 1.)u never made arguement2.) as I recall most post on this thread were good and most ppl who said something was incorrect had completely invalid arguements- such as a short icd will mess up core mechanics when in reality even with swindlers equilibrium there will never be a time you get steal back in less than 5s, and therefore is invalidAgain most post were positive until like your random ones and ones with absolutely invalid arguements like saying tooth stab isn’t in pvp, which is wrong.Ben himself said balance recommendations need to be logical. If some idiot comes here sperging and posting random stuff that means absolutely nothing to me...If you fail to see my argument in the last few replies then you’re dense.

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lol It's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief. If u read anything in this discussion it isn’t about nerfing and it’s not a nerf thief thread as that implies I think it’s over performing in some way which is a separate matter and tbh I generally avoid those topic entirely. This is mostly about exploitable and unintended changes and balance in general which any thief main should think about before random classes you think are over performing. Basically a real thief main should be worried about unintended results of class mechanics as this will prevent non thief mains or other thief mains from being forced to play something that is unintendly overperforming in some categories for no logical reason.Tbh why would I be goading over nerf necro thread if I’m a thief main and there’s clearly something I can do to provide accurate feedback on my classes interaction in pvp. To say otherwise seems more like random hate mail and completely unconstructive. Nothing you mentioned seemed remotely exploitable, otherwise, these things would be exploited..? Lol Yet on paper they all are and even some are completely unintended and can have huge impact. So you are proven wrong. "on paper" this "on paper" thatYou really have no idea what you're talking about, huh? Show me a video of you 'abusing' said mechanics and I'll believe you play Thief lol No I really don’t have to post a video this forum discussion has nothing to do with videos and mentioning so is where you are very very wrong. Facts don’t lie and I don’t have to post a video when u can look up the numbers and calculate these things on your own So basically you're pulling things out of thin air? Cool, good to know. Nah u just saying random stuff. I have an idea why don’t u post a video that proves I don’t play thief think about it is it possible to prove with a video becuz that’s u post rn...That entire reply barely even made sense.If you propose an argument for something then give ample evidence to prove your point, especially when multiple people already pointed out how what you were saying is wrong

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lol It's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief. If u read anything in this discussion it isn’t about nerfing and it’s not a nerf thief thread as that implies I think it’s over performing in some way which is a separate matter and tbh I generally avoid those topic entirely. This is mostly about exploitable and unintended changes and balance in general which any thief main should think about before random classes you think are over performing. Basically a real thief main should be worried about unintended results of class mechanics as this will prevent non thief mains or other thief mains from being forced to play something that is unintendly overperforming in some categories for no logical reason.Tbh why would I be goading over nerf necro thread if I’m a thief main and there’s clearly something I can do to provide accurate feedback on my classes interaction in pvp. To say otherwise seems more like random hate mail and completely unconstructive. Nothing you mentioned seemed remotely exploitable, otherwise, these things would be exploited..? Lol Yet on paper they all are and even some are completely unintended and can have huge impact. So you are proven wrong. "on paper" this "on paper" thatYou really have no idea what you're talking about, huh? Show me a video of you 'abusing' said mechanics and I'll believe you play Thief lol No I really don’t have to post a video this forum discussion has nothing to do with videos and mentioning so is where you are very very wrong. Facts don’t lie and I don’t have to post a video when u can look up the numbers and calculate these things on your ownSo basically you're pulling things out of thin air? Cool, good to know.

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lol It's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief. If u read anything in this discussion it isn’t about nerfing and it’s not a nerf thief thread as that implies I think it’s over performing in some way which is a separate matter and tbh I generally avoid those topic entirely. This is mostly about exploitable and unintended changes and balance in general which any thief main should think about before random classes you think are over performing. Basically a real thief main should be worried about unintended results of class mechanics as this will prevent non thief mains or other thief mains from being forced to play something that is unintendly overperforming in some categories for no logical reason.Tbh why would I be goading over nerf necro thread if I’m a thief main and there’s clearly something I can do to provide accurate feedback on my classes interaction in pvp. To say otherwise seems more like random hate mail and completely unconstructive. Nothing you mentioned seemed remotely exploitable, otherwise, these things would be exploited..? Lol Yet on paper they all are and even some are completely unintended and can have huge impact. So you are proven wrong."on paper" this "on paper" thatYou really have no idea what you're talking about, huh? Show me a video of you 'abusing' said mechanics and I'll believe you play Thief lol

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lol It's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief. If u read anything in this discussion it isn’t about nerfing and it’s not a nerf thief thread as that implies I think it’s over performing in some way which is a separate matter and tbh I generally avoid those topic entirely. This is mostly about exploitable and unintended changes and balance in general which any thief main should think about before random classes you think are over performing. Basically a real thief main should be worried about unintended results of class mechanics as this will prevent non thief mains or other thief mains from being forced to play something that is unintendly overperforming in some categories for no logical reason.Tbh why would I be goading over nerf necro thread if I’m a thief main and there’s clearly something I can do to provide accurate feedback on my classes interaction in pvp. To say otherwise seems more like random hate mail and completely unconstructive.Nothing you mentioned seemed remotely exploitable, otherwise, these things would be exploited..? Lol

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief Lol I main thief And is anything I said on paper incorrect? No not really... what are u even trying to say- w.e it is you clearly aren’t even communicating with proper English lolIt's ridiculous that you're advocating for Thief nerfs when you main the class, especially after recent balance patches and the fact we're outclassed by almost everything unless you put a lot more effort into what you're doing. Maybe what you're saying is true to some minuscule extent, but the fact you're complaining about Thief of all things when the glaring issues post-patch are the fact that everything revolves around bunker/condi and that Necro is so exceedingly broken that it's dominating 2v2s. So once again, I doubt you main Thief.

Where are nerfs the first 3 and most of the others are either - exploitable but not mechanically necessary, unintended or out of line with all the other changes...There is no confusion these are all things that just illogical and actually has nothing to with nerfs tbh, again either out of line, unintended or exploitable... I doubt you play thief

You want to nerf thief more? Damn, some peeps are seriously so confused in the head lmao