I just wanted to say thank you for everyone for the responses and for helping me out. You're absolutely right, I missed some key details here. I have been playing a condi rev and placed into silver three. The class is currently my main but I find it a little hard to solo queue with, so that's why I was considering some other classes. I took your advice too heart and rolled a HoloSmith and a ranger. Now I know I shouldn't expect to have a complete understanding of how the class works just by playing it for a day, but here's a couple of things I struggled with and maybe I can get some advice. I can see why ranger is strong. Great DPS and sometimes you can just free shoot in the background. my only struggle is anytime anyone ever got in my face I feel like I died instantly. Even while trying to utilize my stealth shot and movement skills. I think maybe this comes down to me not utilizing the greatsword correctly, because I would normally just panic and try to run without attempting to switch to it. I must say that I do love the holosmith and all of their skills, but I'm really bad at staying alive with them. Maybe I'm playing them too sword based and not kiting enough with grenades, but whenever I try to jump in The fray things I feel like I get dropped very quickly. but yeah, I just wanted to give you guys an update on where I am and see if you guys had any further advice to help me optimize these classes in PvP. Thanks again !