To be clear, MarzAttakz.9608 is referring to the state of core elementalist only. It's unfortunately true that this class is pretty close to the bottom of the barrel in every game mode while also being near the top of the list in complexity. However, the elite specs both have unique play styles and effective builds in every game mode and work great for expansion open world content. In other words, I would probably not recommend this class for players who really want to run close to the meta but don't intend to purchase the expansions. For anything else I see no problem. But honestly, if you're going to be deep diving into endgame I seriously doubt you'll be content with the core game on any class. Expansions are a no-brainer for people who intend to put time into this game. If core game on every class is that bad, it's most likely to make players want to purchase the expansions. I feel for MarzAttakz.9608, it sucks for players who enjoy the core builds since it limits the way the profession can be played. I already purchased the expansions since $30 with no subscriptions is a no-brainer for me compared to paying $15 per month (Bli$$ard). GW2 feels like a casual version of WoW and since I have a lot of responsibilities (the reason I stopped playing WoW about 2 years ago, raided competitively, casually PvP'd), this game is perfect for me to pick up (the fact that GW is entirely new to me is a bonus lol).