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So, you think that ppl who use bots could be stopped by some free to play restrictions? They are using a bot, we dont know what else they can do with some hack. Anyway Transfer money is easy using TP, buying items permitted from the main account seller, for example.But there could be many ways they can use that I'm not thinking now. Anyway classes used by bots are the core classes and they have always 1800 (approx.) achiev. points I am saying pretty much the opposite. Banning F2P from ranked will have little to no affect on botting. Except in cases where they buy some trivial stuff from TP at a ridiculous high price I don't really see how they can transfer the gold and mats to other accounts with ease considering f2p have restrictions both on TP buying and selling as well as mailing. There can ways ofcourse, you can't really be sure. Be it depositing stuff in guild bank or other ways. I was f2p for over a year before buying the game in 2017 so I know very well how much restrctions are there for TP and mailing on F2P accounts. Next, what exactly is your basis for saying most bots are F2P? Most of the bots I come across are scourge, mirage or scrapper. Yes there are core guard and warrior bots too. But I have seen bots of pretty much many elite specs like weaver, DH, rev, SB etc with the exception of thieves maybe. If you read through the thread and the reddit thread linked by me, you will see me and others saying that many of these accounts accounts with good titles and AP as high as 39k.

There is a way how anet can actually do something about it. Say an account receives high number of reports, they can check the number of games. An avg pvp player would have about less than 300-400 games in a season. They can verify the number of games and ping and see if the person replies when they are online. Bots have over 1400-2000 something games in a season as in this thread.PVP Bot Season Twenty-Fivehttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/lvy4af/pvp_bot_season_twentyfive/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

And to add, most of the bots I came across were not F2P. They were scourges, scrapper or mirage. Hell I have even seen weaver bots. In fact i do not think i have seen an f2p account botting. F2P haverestrictions on trading post and mailing anyway, the one setting up the bot wouldn't gain much farming pvp on a f2p account unless they intend to buy key for it later. So banning F2P may help with hacking maybe, but definitely wouldn't help with botting much.

You both have taken my thread and made a complete salad out of it. I am not trying to discuss match manipulation here.Neither am I trying to discuss fractals or other pve farms here.I do t4s daily, I make decent gold doing what I do in my casual play time. The issue I am trying to discuss isn't that. I do not think that pvp rewards should be nerfed, it's not that it pays a lot, it is the fact that you can create a new account and easily farm it whereas you can't just get into fractals like that. Win or lose you are bound to get something whereas in fractals you can't do that. Point being it is not that the rewards from pvp is too high, it is the fact that it is really easy to get into. Reducing the reward will make the already diminishing pvp population even lower. And I really do not have any clue what makes you think that botting is match manipulation or is related to MMR in any way. People who bot aren't match manipulating or win trading. They are just farming the gold while being afk. I mentioned that I have noticed people with titles like LNHB and raid titles botting. They aren't match manipulating, they just set up the bot to farm pvp offline.

Well its not that hard to imagine why there are bots farming 24/7 since early seasons with tens of thousands reports on their backs.I will give you a hint the botting tool isnt free. I dunno, but even after all the neglect and my reports leading to nothing I don't want to believe that the real reason arenanet isn't banning players from botting is that they are the ones selling botting tool. If that gets confirmed I'm quitting this game.

The number of players would be less and probably too low at off hours. True. But the games may be better and you actually enjoy pvp. I started playing pvp about 3 n 1/2 years back when I was ranked gold 1 my first season, my play times were same and yet there were less bots and the games were fun. Or maybe i had no clue of bots or how to recognize them then. For past 2 seasons or so whenever I play half of them are bots. I may be wrong and not get what you're saying correctly, but I think you're confusing bots with programs or accounts which just play pvp etcNo, these are real accounts by people, they use botting program to just queue ranked and play while afk. The bot program queues and just keeps farming ranked rewards. This is the reason I said that i am seeing players with LNHB title and megilandil mentioned he saw person with 40k AP botting. Why would arenanet put bots with this much AP or titles if it was just to balance the pvp queues? In fact I saw a person with "the key of adhashim" title. That is no bot program, it is a human playing at times and utilizing the account and then setting up a bot program to queue and farm ranked games. I reported him...but I know arenanet would not do anything about it. Other than that do you think it's fair that these people farm afk and get all the mats and stuff at the same time ruining the game for legit players like me in ranked?

They are bots, I'm serious. You probably play around reset where I don't find that many. I play OCX time on weekdays and every match has at least 4-5 bots. And that's the least, may be more if the time clashes with any metas like auric basin or TD. I know for certain because they all move on the same line, will go to same places together, always have offline statue. They aren't bad when it comes to skills rotation. Trust me I have seen mirage bots who would attack you within 0.1 sec the moment you come out of stealth even if you are behind them. They are bots right..they beat human reaction speed. But map rotation or in general if you stand on a kite spot they will be stuck. The reason I am posting in forums because it has really been a bot fiesta off hours this season and it's not just new accounts. I see players with titles like LNHB who just run offline and have set up bots to farm ranked off hours. You can tell they are botting because they would all move in the same line together apart from combat, all match long. As I said, I can post names here. All these accounts have 800-1200 games this season. So they are either botting or sleeping during queues.

Why isn't arenanet doing anything about the bots scene dominating sPvP this season? I have been playing pvp for long and yes, bots were there since ages but this season it just seems to be a bot fest off hours. I usually play off hours and I have had 2 games in a row where everyone except me and 1 other person were bots. I can post a picture here with screen names and you can see that these people have had about 800-1200 games just this season but I know that is against the rules. However at this point I have no clue what to do for arenanet to actually take any sort of action on botting and hacking. This is not the first time, I have been reporting the same people for about 2-3 seasons now and they are still botting. Arenanet recently made a post saying that every report is checked by people, is it a joke? I have been reporting these people for ages, why are they still around botting? The neglect for the mode is disgusting, seriously do something, anything, because at this point I think I should totally give up on the mode because I can't play around reset and every match I play has at least 4-5 bots.