Zechie.4039

I'm sure you would be playing animal crossing if you wanted to be playing animal crossing.

That sounds really nice too, I don't know what we can expect if in game housing is implemented, but it sounds really nice. We can hope.

No I was asking what Housimg is I was unsure if you were using a word from a language I do not speak I only asked no need to be funny about it. I have supported my claims, you made incorrect claims that you clearly did not research and that is proven above, I'm pretty sure I linked the link https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guildrider_Warclaw_Skin_Reward_Track Again sorry if you don't wish to look for any information, but just because others do when you clearly do not, dose not mean they are wrong or the information dose not exist, its just you chose to not look for it, do not expect others to do things for you, that's not helping you and It certainly is not my responsibility to look for information for you. 🙂 Maybe read this again, also your claim was for mounts/etc, are we now only referring to mounts, if so you never said that we were only referring to mounts, I was referring to your earlier statement of mounts/etc which means mounts and some other things, not just mounts. You had not admitted your mistake at this time so you wrote this when this statement was untrue. This is the post which you admitted your mistake in, the post after you claimed you had admitted your mistake. Guess you realized your mistake there when you claimed you had already admitted you made a mistake and then made a post admitting you had made a mistake. Firstly one is more than zero which you originally very strongly claimed was the case, guess you should have actually checked things before making them claims. I mean it is pretty damning for the claim if you claim something and its wrong. I don't support the system I have never once said the system is ok and that I support it, if you read what I have written you will see I do not support the system and have said that a number of times. I have in fact said the system dose need to change and in my opinion it dose, I have in fact said a balanced system is needed and have given some suggestions as to how to make it more balanced, as have others. In my own opinion making everything cash shop dependant is not a balanced system its more of a rip off. So no I will not be enjoying $20 chairs because I wouldn't buy them, because I wouldn't support that, I would however enjoy chairs which I obtained through in game means (crafting, boss drops, ect) I honestly am wondering why you are choosing to completely ignore the fact that I have said this and where you are getting this opinion of I support the system, its like you are looking for an argument. Also I have said a number of times I am not opposed to earning in game items / recipes, implementing this system could also make older content more relative because people would then possibly farm that content for the items. This could also be applied to mount skins and the like (or as you said Mounts / ect) What I have said a NUMBER of times now is that housing would/could be a popular feature and that some people are interested in it, which they clearly are, otherwise they would not be posting about it and asking for it to possibly be implemented. I have said there are a number of YouTube channels and Twitch channels dedicated to housing in other games which clearly show how popular it is among the community. (You can go and check on them platforms to see how popular it is, if you like) I have told you where you can see this. I have said that other games have proven that it is popular and that company's have found it to be profitable and the fact that the system is constantly receiving updates and additions and being expanded on by the company show it is clearly profitable, company's do not waste money over and over on things that make them a loss. If you look for this information you will be able to find it you just refuse to look. What you seem to be arguing against is my hope for a better more balanced system. Also you do understand we are asking for something we would like to see, that is the point in writing down what we would hope to have or like to see, we are allowed to have hope otherwise we may as well just give up on everything now. 😄

Hmm interesting, a few minor things. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guildrider_Warclaw_Skin_Reward_Track As I have said, if it was highly monetized and you needed to buy all the decent looking things through the cash shop, then I myself would be against this system. I have always said this, I don't think anyone wants something that they have to empty their wallet / purse for, but a reasonably balanced system possibly. A balanced system which a number of other games have managed to achieve to a certain point is a much preferred system, which would make housing accessible to all should they chose to participate, and over time it could be developed upon. At the end of the day if people want to spend their money they can, and I agree to a point that there should be more available in game other than the basic stuff (its honestly annoying) I really do and I wouldn't be opposed to ANet adding more skins for mounts and such in the game that are obtainable by doing certain things through the game, a much more balanced system is needed, and I'm sure people would appreciate it more. As some have said adding crafting recipes to crafting classes, adding the potential for bosses to drop recipes, the potential for bosses to drop items. This would be a potential solution. A balanced system where things can be bought but also obtained through in game means is the ideal system for everything. Hopefully it could be implemented, who knows. But at the end of the day I don't think housing would be a waste, there are people who are clearly interested in it, its the execution of it that would need to be thought through carefully.

I can press the O button thanks.

I dont think I have mentioned Housimg, sorry what is that ? Im sorry you are unable to find information that is available, but the fact is there is information out there that you yourself can check, if you chose not to do something, don't expect others to do it for you. Also just to add, when there is new stuff brought out for a system on a constant basis that implies the system that is constantly being added to is popular and profitable, company's who only care about money and profits wouldn't spend resources on a system that didn't make them profits. No one throws good money after bad, certainly not company's with a cut throat kind of attitude, at the end of the day they only care about the money.

Company's do normally say if something has been successful, there will be articles / posts / updates about it, they will be releasing new things for it both in game and in their cash shops, housing related items I guess in this case or new locations. Normally if its been a total waste other sources will be the ones posting it and criticising how the company handled the issue, and most people can see if something is successful or not by how the community themselves have reacted. There have been many company's that have done housing very well, just because the two you played seem to have failed, doesn't mean all do, there's a large number that have not, in fact a number has been mentioned here in this thread that are still going strong today, and so is their housing system. No idea why you haven't noticed them. You have not backed up any of your claims, also you have only expressed your opinions, I have mentioned a number of times that there are a number of sources which show the popularity of player houses in games, mentioned it a number of times. sorry if you have not read that.

Go and check for yourself, the information is available if you look. I also do not see you providing any sources, just opinions and what you believe will happen. Truth is housing in GW2 has not happened yet, it may, it may not, but you can not really speak and it will 100% be this way when it has yet to happen, who is to say, I cant say something that has yet to happen will 100% be this way. I don't know anyone who can.

Every MMO that has added housing has recorded profits from it, and that is a reality. I do understand your points about it being heavily monetised but asking for a balanced system is perfectly fine, other MMOS have managed to make a some what balanced system, no idea why ANet couldn't. Some have given players a small taste and then the option to if they like it build upon it, some mmos have the option to buy in game housing with currency or whatever the cash shop currency is (gems in this case) Same with housing items, some have added crafting recipes to the crafting classes with some items being exclusive to the cash shop. There was literally 1 person who said that they disliked it and it was a waste, they may have edited their comments since, I haven't looked, however my comment was responding to them. Also what they then said was it was a waste to people who disliked it, and my reply to that was just because some people disliked it dose not mean it would be a waste because there are people who would like it. Which is true, at the end of the day some people are going to like some things and other people other things, no one is going to be 100% satisfied all the time, however it doesn't mean that implementing something that satisfies some is a waste. Every other person who has said they were not for housing has given their opinion and I have agreed with some of their views. I do understand how things work and that developing a working housing system would take resources away from other aspects, but I still do not think it would be a waste because there are clearly people who are interested in it.

Very judgemental of you to say this about me, and very wrong. The system a number of people have described is not the same as the one you keep insisting is the same, and keep telling us we need to go and partake in. I have been in guilds where everything seemed peachy and everyone seemed happy, the guild master built the guild up with everyone's help, after everything was done to a certain standard, the guild master then kicked everyone and sold the guild for a certain amount of gold, advertised it on discord. So I would be very reluctant to join and build up someone else's guild, because this is a potential outcome. You don't mention the draw backs of being in something controlled by others, there is the option of having your own guild, a solo guild, but then you have a very limited choice of what you can do which wont really work out, or take far to long to the point people could and probably would lose interest. Where as the system a number of other people have described is a system that would be accessible to all in some form or another. And what about the players who would enjoy it, you are only considering your own opinion, you don't like something you don't want it, and because you don't want it, its a waste, but to many who are interested it is not. You are also not considering that it could draw more people to the game who are interested in game housing and liked and played GW2 in the past. I have literally said a number of times it should be an optional thing, guess you haven't read that, I never once said, nor did anyone else as far as I am aware say it should be a main feature of an expansion. It could be a feature of an expansion but doesn't have to be the main one, but who knows, could end up being a main feature. Just what, where have I said anything would be a waste, I don't think I actually have. If you mean because I like in game housing I am backing it and saying it wont be a waste because I like it, you clearly haven't read anything I wrote. Ill just leave it at that. Sadly that could be a thing, I do agree that taking people from the main areas could be a draw back. Expanding the guild halls function could be a solution but my issue there is that people would probably end up having to create their own guilds just to get the ability to decorate it, and then go through the unlocking process, so it wouldn't be accessible to all right away there would be a process, and others would be needed. I agree with this, I do believe housing could be a good thing, popular with many players who are already interested, and popular with many who are not. Sure its not for everyone, but it could still be a popular thing, and a positive thing for GW2

I think I would like more customization options, however for me that's probably a double edged sword because I currently cant pick "THE" hairstyle for my sylvari, and would probably spend ages looking through the options over and over. Hours of my life I would never get back, or spend on anything but questioning "is that the right look". On the other hand I might find "THE" one and never question my choice again. I would really like a long haired style for my sylvari. Also maybe the option to have more than one colour for more hairstyles. Cant speak or all the races here but I haven't noticed any. Yes I agree with that, and maybe more customizable tattoos, not all tattoos are one colour after all. That being said, I think I would rather see More storylines/expansions than more character customizations, like if it really came down to it, if that were the two choices.

We are talking about a system that requires little work though, that everyone has the ability to unlock easily. I believe to get a guild hall you must be a level 80 player and have a guild with other level 80 players in, possibly have a few upgrades, and then go on a "mission" which needs a few people 9, I believe you have said, you also need 150 Favor, and 100 gold. I also did say people had the option to make their own guilds earlier if you noticed, but also agreed with others who said it wasn't the same thing, and it is not the same thing. Ok well maybe you are satisfied with that but other people have their own opinion and may not be satisfied with that. Its clearly a thing people want, and have their own views upon. I personally see no issue with having instantized housing, I don't see what harm it could do. If people want to participate in it they have the choice to do so, if people like yourself do not wish to participate in it then you don't have to. I think that's a very judgmental comment to make, you don't know this, it may be popular for a very long time, other MMOs have shown that it can be very popular and people are attracted to it. Considering the amount of people in this that are saying they want housing I doubt its only them that think housing would be something they would be interested in. Also just to point out, other MMO's have proven housing to be a popular past time players are interested in, some investing a lot in time wise, and in some cases there is the option to purchase items with RL money, but its not a necessity. I'm almost 100% sure there's a number of YouTube and Twitch channels dedicated to housing in different MMO's. So clearly it is something that is popular and people are interested in. You may dislike something but you don't have to participate in it, you also don't have to be against others having the opportunity to participate in it, because you yourself do not like it. Calling something others see as something they would be interested in a waste is quite dismissive of their thoughts and opinions. Again just because you dislike something and do not see the point in it, dose not mean it is a waste. As I said I would hope it wouldn't, I would hope it would be far more balanced and not be 100% reliant on the gemstore, I would hope a 80% in game and 20% gemstore balance could be reached, and the 20% being things that are not necessities, I would hope. If it did end up with the majority of it reliant on gemstore purchases I would be against it, I wouldn't support it.

Yeah again I think a balance would need to be established and it not be 100% gemstore purchases, because I myself would not support something like that. I think an 80% in game obtainable recipes and 20% gemstore purchasable items balance would be ok. I would hope that balance would be carefully looked at thought through and established carefully, and not end up as 100% gemstore purchases, as I said I myself would not support that. The more people who can participate in something they wish to, the more popular it is, which I think is a good thing.

I agree with this, Guild Halls are only available to high ranked players in guilds, and the common guild member has no say in anything guild related. Lets be honest there. There are options to establish your own guild, but its not the same as player housing. I would hope it is not all monetized in every possible way, I would hope that there is at least some sort of balance, at least add some recipes to the current crafters, and boss drops for rarer items. (Believe I quoted this before) I think if housing is done right it could be very popular with a lot of people, maybe its not everyone's ideal thing, but then they have the option to not be involved in it, everyone is different and likes different things. I believe this was already explained previously, Ill just quote it for you. It could be an optional thing, like I believe fishing is an optional thing, I don't think there is anything forcing you to fish to be honest, I believe there's a few achievements, but I don't think its a necessity. Could be mistaken there. My point you would have the option to participate or not to participate, you wouldn't be forced to do so, so you could just not participate.

I would love to see housing in GW2, I also think the best way for GW2 to go would be the same sort of way that ESO went, instances that can easily be accessed by the characters on that account. I believe maybe allow people to have 1 free home, like they do in ESO, I believe the very first and most basic house (inn room) is free. I believe this would be a good idea to possibly get more people interested in housing by giving them a taste for them to see what it is like. I believe the wall / floor styles could be customizable, furniture could be crafted, maybe add furniture recipes to current crafting professions I believe there should be room for gardens and growing plots, I class a garden as an area outside that you could decorate, I class a growing plot as a area where you can grow stuff from the seeds. Now maybe that's just my classification, sorry Farmer. I do agree with Small houses having 1 growing plot, medium houses having 2, large houses having 3. In my opinion both are good methods, and used in other MMOS. I agree with both of these.