And we've seen some links in the beta where it's all entirely invisible small groups that do their own thing.
The above cannot be emphasised enough, my Guild was in a map with 30+ queues and the queue bug, so I did not get to play with them when i was on. It was just terrible, either hidden tags or open tags but the moment you turned up it was just guild people and they would literally finish their objective, zone out and hide their tag! it was encouraging anti social behaviour i think, and I am someone who has nothing against small Guild raids or havoc groups as a rule.
Another thing i feel is encouraging unsociable habits is the boon ball meta, is HAS TO GO. No if's no buts, not only is it shockingly boring, it seems to feed into and encourage some behaviour from commanders that is somewhat elitist and Discord obsessed. It's a third party app, I have run with plenty of open group commanders that don't run with it and do well. My SIL was in a squad last week ( open) said they were doing well, the majority were not on discord, they lost one battle and the commander started complaining that it was the squads fault for not being on discord, and then tried to offload all the non discord squad onto someone else mid prime time. I think boon ball is partly why voice squad has become 'required'
All this talk of maps, you have a map EOTM, do something with it.
So, due to all of the above and that the changes coming seem to encourage this, plus the radio silence on boon ball means neither I or my SIL want to do wvw at all at the moment. Abandon or change the restructuring so that this anti social Guild only mentality does not set in because it will kill off wvw forever, stop boon ball, use EOTM.
And we've seen some links in the beta where it's all entirely invisible small groups that do their own thing. The above cannot be emphasised enough, my Guild was in a map with 30+ queues and the queue bug, so I did not get to play with them when i was on. It was just terrible, either hidden tags or open tags but the moment you turned up it was just guild people and they would literally finish their objective, zone out and hide their tag! it was encouraging anti social behaviour i think, and I am someone who has nothing against small Guild raids or havoc groups as a rule. Another thing i feel is encouraging unsociable habits is the boon ball meta, is HAS TO GO. No if's no buts, not only is it shockingly boring, it seems to feed into and encourage some behaviour from commanders that is somewhat elitist and Discord obsessed. It's a third party app, I have run with plenty of open group commanders that don't run with it and do well. My SIL was in a squad last week ( open) said they were doing well, the majority were not on discord, they lost one battle and the commander started complaining that it was the squads fault for not being on discord, and then tried to offload all the non discord squad onto someone else mid prime time. I think boon ball is partly why voice squad has become 'required' All this talk of maps, you have a map EOTM, do something with it. So, due to all of the above and that the changes coming seem to encourage this, plus the radio silence on boon ball means neither I or my SIL want to do wvw at all at the moment. Abandon or change the restructuring so that this anti social Guild only mentality does not set in because it will kill off wvw forever, stop boon ball, use EOTM.
