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@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:
@Astralporing.1957 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:Call it gambling if you want, but this is nothing different than getting a random drop.If you had to pay real world cash for every random drop, i bet you'd see the difference really fast.Which is not the case here.so is it the same as a random drop or isn't it? at this point you're arguing with yourself
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@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:
@Wraith.1094 said:@atomy.3817 said:@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@atomy.3817 said:Nothing "predatory" about this at all. That's just an exaggeration by inappropriately labeling something they don't like.Right, they just want to trick people into spending much more on multiple attempts at winning the skin they want, rather than just letting them buy it outright. Nothing predatory about that. /SThey are letting players buy them outright if you buy the bundle. It's not cheap, but it's there.And you could win the lottery if you just buy a ticket for every possible combination of numbers.this. everyone arguing "it's not gambling because you can buy them all" is wasting time on pointless semantics. except for a tiny portion of dedicated collectors and/or whales, most people only want a handful of these 30 skins, not every last one. every skin they pay for but don't want is a lost dice roll. just because there's a fixed total number of possible times to lose doesn't mean it isn't gambling.Call it gambling if you want, but this is nothing different than getting a random drop.really?That's ridiculous and you know it. To compare 1:30 chance to 1:1,000,000+ chance is absurd.about as absurd as comparing a random drop to something that costs $5.00? I could join a farm and get hundreds of random drop chances per hour. who's paying you 1000$/hr to play GW2? -
@atomy.3817 said:
@Sir Vincent III.1286 said:@atomy.3817 said:Nothing "predatory" about this at all. That's just an exaggeration by inappropriately labeling something they don't like.Right, they just want to trick people into spending much more on multiple attempts at winning the skin they want, rather than just letting them buy it outright. Nothing predatory about that. /SThey are letting players buy them outright if you buy the bundle. It's not cheap, but it's there.And you could win the lottery if you just buy a ticket for every possible combination of numbers.this. everyone arguing "it's not gambling because you can buy them all" is wasting time on pointless semantics. except for a tiny portion of dedicated collectors and/or whales, most people only want a handful of these 30 skins, not every last one. every skin they pay for but don't want is a lost dice roll. just because there's a fixed total number of possible times to lose doesn't mean it isn't gambling.
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Honestly, all it really comes down to is who's in charge of making the decision. If it's the actual devs, we might have a shot at getting this nonsense fixed. If it's anyone in charge of maximizing profits, we're screwed. It really doesn't matter how many people 'vote with their wallet' or refuse to ever give Anet another dime, because for every 20 of those people there's one whale who will gladly spend 20+ people's share of cash on gems. the majority of the playerbase that isn't even aware of why this business model is so scummy, or simply don't care, so lootboxes remain more profitable and the ill-will relatively easy to ignore.
The obvious method of pricing these mounts would be allowing you to simply pick the one you want with various tiers of gem prices with pretty steep costs for the crazy glowing ones. some would still complain, but many more people would buy them. The problem is that it's almost always more profitable to do lootbox style systems because while drastically less people will buy into it, the ones who do pay more. whether that's whales, people predisposed towards gambling, or those who hate the system but just have to have that one particular thing and will keep pulling the lever until they get it.
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the non-shitty thing to do is set moderate-to-high prices for individual pieces of cosmetics like they did for gliders and backpacks, and let everyone buy specifically what they want without having to buy anything they don't. whales will still be whales, and the small to moderate spenders can still get what they want.