Yes I know the meme title is bad and I should feel bad, but it made me giggle.
So I was wandering through Dragonfall collecting lore tidbits here and there, some of them pertaining to Gwen Thackery and her conversations with Rytlock and Logan when I heard the strangest bit of dialogue to me. That was Gwen Thackery saying to Logan that much like his relationship with Rytlock she too once knew a Charr she could trust, this seemed odd to me to say the least, because the only person she could possibly be talking about would be Pyre. I get it to some degree, that Gwen worked extensively beside Pyre for their brief stint together in the Eye of the North and earned a degree of respect for one another, and yet I wouldn't describe Gwen as trusting nor even ever really liking Pyre. From what I recall, Pyre was even the one who taught her that the Charr should be hated rather then feared.
I'v always chalked Pyre's heroic portrayal in Charr society as a bit of carefully cherry picked historical revisionism employed by the Legions, much like their reverence for Bonfaaz Burntfur despite him being a Flame Legion Shaman and his orchestration of the Searing at Stormcallers Monument, he was the primary leader of the fight against the humans and so his legacy had to be spruced up despite the fact he also was what led Charr into slavery under the Titans, in fact there's more then a little dramatic irony in the fact that both Pyre and Bonfaaz would be revered in the same society side by side. Then again, Pyre idolized his father for his role in Searing so perhaps not so much.
Pyre was a competent fighter and the spark that lighted Charr revolution, but his grandcub had more to do with the changing of Charr society then he ever did. As he once said himself he was going to slip away into the shadows, revolutions eat their heroes and he wasn't going to be devoured by his own. I always found that aspect of Pyre fascinating as the person willing to instigate change but unwilling to die for it, his memory embellished as a person who began the process of Charr societies change but who really left the actual change of that society on the backs of everyone to come after him so that he wouldn't suffer the same fate most of those who resist do, his own great granddaughter included in the tally of revolutionaries killed by the Flame Legion.
In fact it seems very strange to me that Gwen would so heavily critique Charr society as we know it(Not that I disagree with her.) when the Charr as we know them now are the product of everything Pyre created. A society that doesn't value honor but won't throw away it's best weapons, one that fights beside and for it's warband but also often discards sentimentality and occasionally throws the members of the closest thing to it's family unit under the bus, and of course a society that finds it hard to forget and forgive anyone because they are all part of their 'petty revenge in whatever form that takes. Pyre embodies some of the virtues that elevated the Charr to a more protagonist status, but he also embodies many of it's vices as well in their most extreme forms.
As Gwen says to Pyre at one point: One good act does not redeem your people murderer, I do not like you, and I do not forgive you. Really why would she? The Charr, Pyre included, relished in the idea of enslaving and murdering humans supposedly to reclaim and ancestral homeland that we know from the Ecology of the Charr isn't really theirs, it has more ground to belong to the Dwarves and Grawl before the Charr took it by right of conquest. Pyre was the catalyst for change, but Pyre was not a good or trustworthy person in the slightest.
What do you all think? is this analysis valid or am I being pedantic?