https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1217930#Comment_1217930 Am I reading it wrong? or are you now asking for the easy way and to nerf?:eyes: And those 2 problems are still the worst in PvP right now, but by the time I wrote that, every build meta or not, had a counter, mostly, right now Weaver counters got nerfed so you Weaver players here defending that it is fine, you know that's a lie.Basically Weavers got too much of everything, while their counters got nerfed, Weaver nerfs aren't on pair, it needs to be tuned down. Exactly.