Beezl.4180

I was interested in trying Druid but now sadly I am not interested in anything. For me the worst thing an mmo could do to itself is to have me running away from fights just because they can counter me that is beyond the most disgusting thing that as a competitive pvp player I will never allow myself to endure. Its beyond boring to run from fights and especially to run from them because you cant beat anyone and everyone that triggers me like nothing else in mmos especially. I am just a type of player that wants to contest anyone on anything I hate that I cant do it no more in gw2 and specifically for their game design. Once more I will mention this I love the new specs I truly do I like that they are trying to get creative with things and make them unique but making them absurdly op in any sense is just not for me sadly. I just want to say thank you for trying to recommend something rather than be upset with my long responses but the game has pushed me away, I really tried giving it a good chance but it just doesnt work out. Personally from what I have seen currently ranger literally looks like the weakest class in the whole roster. Every other class has truly some crazy mechanics that just ranger doesnt. Worst part of it all is that people say " ranger has invis" yes it does if you hit the arrow and if you dont you really dont have invis and that invis lasts for what 3 seconds ? 2 maybe. Other classes I noticed have much more utilities which is just unfair and it pretty much unbalances gameplay. Which brings me to another fight I had vs a mesmer that went in and out of invisibility 5-6 times during the fight, leave the fact that they have clones that can confuse you but invis ?! LOL thats just too much. Back in the day I could fight a mesmer with ease and it would feel nice to kill one hence they can have 3-4 clones at the same time and constantly confusing you but now its just them countering you with insane utilities. Oh well enough of my ranting thanks again for your suggestiong truly appricated, but the game is not for me no more. Maybe I will return for the new expansion if ranger's new spec is good if not it is what it is.

I was not only talking about spvp btw I was also talking about wvw just pvp in general Spvp is some what bearable even though its annoying when you meet builds that are just either crazy tanky, have some mad hp regen, or just some crazy protections but your build has nothing to do with it truly. Especially a "bursty" skill I was playing sic'em ranger that was literally full burst build that is complete glass canon in exchange to kill targets in 1 barrage but it doesnt work, sadly and thats where the problem of the game is. If you are willing to make a build as such that pretty much is a suprise attacker type of build that hits you out of no where and some random person can just soak in all the dmg heal up and set up "300" protection skills which then leaves you with only one option to leave which is boring, why is it boring ? Cause as a burst type of build guy you should be able to stand your ground. Now obviously you might say well "whats the point of being a tanky build if you can get melted" well exactly thats the point if someone catches you off guard regardless if you are a tank or not you are caught off guard what makes you tanky are your abilities, of course your equipment too but your abilities are the ones that allow you to go immune or make a barrier or any kind of protection skill that will mitigate or stop incoming dmg. It is just not corect from my point of view. I dont know what class you play but I strongly suggest you try to play ranger in WvW pick your poison, whatever you like build wise, go druid if you like go soul beast make a core build just do it and you will understand how every other class overwhelmes you. I have played this class since I have started the game 6 years ago and I have a very good amount of hours on it so I am truly experienced on it. Fighting other classes with ranger feels like alot of work and not so much work for the other classes, even when I fight other ranges with my ranger it feels like a piece of cake to fight, yet people complain of ranger's pet which I find hilarious cause people dont see to have any issues with the pet of ranger with the new elite specs. You could make a fair point and say well "why not join them" I will never swap to another class because the other classes do not really catch my attention.

You have your right to disagree but it does not mean you are correct on the matter, my point was exactly that in the first place that not every class can do that and pretty much those who can do that play based on their counter play rather then skill, I am not sure how much you pvp or spend time pvping but I spend good couple of days wvw every day for endless hours and kept meeting with guardians and what not other classes that have good dmg and at the same time crazy sustain and also are tanky, which makes the whole point of fighting people as such boring. Its an absolute problem with the game and that is why the game is in a dying state and I am truly surprised t hey are pushing out more expansions when they have servers that are deader than dead and im pretty sure its dead for that reason. Sadly I wont force myself to play vs people that dont have skill and I have to put in the work while they just sit there and hit couple of buttons and boom my hp is gone while they just soak in any incoming dmg or press 1 button and looky looky full hp with immunity to dmg bla bla bla plain boring and it shows that anet are so out of ideas that they themselves have butchered their own game. This is bound to happen with any game that keeps adding new classes but doesnt actually integrate them to fit in with the existing ones and they just make them crazy overpowered. In wvw you barely see a core class and again thats for a very good reason cause there arent many core classes that would do anything vs the new elite specs. The same thing will happen with the new elite specs that are on the way, they will be the go to and the new kitten counter play to other classes which again no one can ever tell me that in a mmo game that counter play is skill, in real life yes but in a game no. The main reason that in game or especially in an mmo counterplay is not a skill is because usually counterplay means that the opponent cant do jack to kill you no matter how much they outplay you no matter how much they cc you before you even kill them thats simply not skill. Hence I saw many people considering it skill or not "many" but a few thats pretty much like saying to someone lets fight but Imma stand behind the wall and will be able to hit you but you wont be able to hit me and I will be considered skillful cause I was able to hit you behind the wall but you couldnt. Thats the logic of counter play being "skill" in GW2 or any other mmo. The main thing that people confuse is that they think that using a skill to counter something in a class to gain advantage in your fight where your enemy has a chance to kill you and the fight is intense that there is skill. But in this case where we are discussing someone changing their traits in order to become the person behind the wall that can obliterate you either fast or slowly but you cant do anything to them because your traits do not counter theirs thats not skill no where in the slightest. Again that would be like giving 2 people to do a test but you give one a pen and the other nothing and expect them both to have an equal footing. To finalise the moment the mmo becomes about the class and not the player the need of skill has been deleted from the game and the game is just no longer a competitive game.

Hi Mr.807 posts that is most likely already typing his 808th post that has joined in 2017. That has obviously not read my post and that is okay many didnt and those who did clearly have an agreement with me. I have been playhing this have for 6 years now which if we are judging by how you are judging me you have been playing for only 4 thats a whole 2 years of my pvping every day more than you. But this is not about bragging rights or who has played when or whatever you might want to call it I just wanted to point that out for you cause you are so quick to judge. Now to answer your question about my rank, I am currently gold and I got placed gold with my current skill level that is rustier then the titanic from a about 3 or maybe 4 year break from the game due to playing other things that interested me more. But here I will give you some information on things you are unclear about and why I can speak on this topic especially in the current state that the game is in. for 2-3 years of my non stop daily activity of playing GW2 I have pvped and only pvped since the day I got the game and I was told I can lvl up through pvping, I was able to form with a friend of mine that I met in the game a Spvp competitive guild that literally did ranked pvp and ranked pvp only and no one got invited if they werent interested in pvp. We even at the time had top 50 players in the rankings for their classes, we were even thinking to start joining up for small tournaments but sadly things went left and right and we disbanded and people stopped playing the game and bla bla bla you get the gist. Now to go back to what you were mentioning, I am gold and imagine gold and I should realistically be silver with the fact that I am a returning player that has forgotten how things worked and had to face fresh classes that I knew 0 about and how they work or not classes but "elite specs" and other new builds. I think in this case scenario I am more than qualified to speak on this topic of how bad the pvp scene is in this game now Mr.807 posts do share with me where your experience comes from and I presume you will tell me you are some legendary rank in pvp which I turly do not care about. Lastly dont judge so fast it makes you look really stupid, back in those days of GW2 there were no ranks there was just tiger,wolf, bear, dragon, no leagues no ranks such as silver,gold, plat,diamond or whatever there is currently in GW2. When people saw you slam them with that dragon finisher people use to be like "OH kitten this guy is the real deal". If you truly have played less then me have some respect for those who have played longer especially in the field of what they are trying to talk about rather then spilling some immature blaber. There I gave you your formated answer that I am sure you probably wont even read cause you are too busy typing that 809th post.

There is always someone that will never be happy with anything you do or say in life I cant let certain people think they are big shot hence why I have not really paid them full attention. Thank you for spending the time to read it, weather formated it correctly or not most people that do not do pvp in mmos would not have read it regardless if this post was in the pvp section of the forum. Once more thanks !

please do explain where the hurt feelings are ?

at least it would have been your first ever thing to actually read in your life, you can leave a bad comment but you cant read send me your bank deets and I shall donate to your cause so that you become litarate and get you started on reading. Smile

Whats there to line break ? if its all in one context ? If this is how the community acts then no wonder your game is in a ded state

Hi, Weather I will get alot of salt for this or not I really couldnt care less but I have been on and off with the game as of recent due to this issue, I have been playing the game since release and I have been only pvping in the game and that was the most enjoyable aspect of the game to me at least. Back in vanilla days things were just perfect, every class could beat every class and it felt nice to pvp. As a returning player in the current state of the game I am trully apalled. I feel like the pvp has become more league of legends style, where counter play plays more part then skill, there are specs out there with the new expansions that have either crazy amount of burst or crazy amount of sustain that you just cant put down. With a few clicks and boom someone made a spec to counter your spec then you go and try to counter theirs and its no longer about you tryign to outplay your opponent but its more about you trying to outcounter your opponent which is truly sad, as a competitive person in mmos this just sucks. No one can convince me that the game has not turned into this. During my on and off times with the game recently I have experienced almost every spec there is and I can tell you there is no joy in fighting someone that can over heal and do dmg to you or take 0 dmg and have some crazy immunity skills that just literally make him/her unkillable and the list can go on. I am not too sure how others feel on this topic but personally its sad that people actually think they are "competitve" when they are just blatantly just a counter to someone who is clearly outplaying them but just cant do enough dmg to out dmg the sustain or protection abilities which to the side user with 0 competitiveness in him/her it looks like the counterplayer is actually the skillful one. To finish off, I recently fought a guardian that no matter how many times I cc him and pull off a full combo id never get him down to a downed state, even though I was outplaying him and doing all the right moves it felt like I am trying to fight a hacker in a fps game. The first time we fought I beat him he was taking normal dmg, as soon as he came back a min later guess what, he had a whole new build that allowed him to do that, to me personally thats not skill thats just counter play. I am not too sure how many of you are familliar with Lost Ark but I have played on the Russian server for a whille and hence the arena there is equlized I can tell you that you can easily beat any class if you are skilled enough even if they are considered a "counter class" by the community. These are my two cents and its truly sad the game has gone in this direction. Apologies for the fat paragraph.

thats the dumbest thing ive heard, not being able to ccs a person has nothing to do with inexperience you cant just wait him out or something like that, it makes 0 sense for him to be perma unccable it cancels out the whole point of having a cc system or skills and you can be as skilled as you want the only thing you can do is run away.

Yes I just moved on, its not fun to press and move the camera like crazy, against someone who does 0 effort and just easily wins. Like I mentioned I am not salty just disappointed.

Not like they couldnt snowball me, skill mattered more back then then it does now, there were no overpowered specs that kill you in 2-3 shots, you got deadeye now a days literally just pew pews you in 2-3 shots just cause he can and can go invis any time it wants to, I just had skill back then thats what allowed me to trample people down, skill > broken new specs and meta.

Hi,I was a 2015 gw2 player and back then pvp was hella fun, yes there were the select few classes that could kind of snowball but not every class it wasnt all so common, pretty much any class could beat any class back then at least. I recently returned to the game to find new specs and new builds and in all honesty, its bad, its really bad, classes that I could easily snowball before and outplay now deal tons of dmg and they just stand there and dont move, its as if they are clicking the skills with their mouse to fight me where I am dodging and weavin and they just sit there. Back to the dmg part what is that about ? I and some of my team mates got slaughtered in a few hits, that was never the case before, it took skill and timing and patience to kill someone but it felt like you pulled it off and it felt rewarding, now its just a broken spec and pew pew you are dead ... I dont want to sound salty or that I am terrible, because I have been playing mmo since a very long time, call mea mmo vet if you like and gw2 I use to live and breathe pvp back then, competitve even. I even had a proper team of people put together at one point we were ready to compete and all and we were doing ranked against high ranked players and winning purely down to skill though, sadly I bought the expansions with the thought I could get into some pvp again and the pve side of things but since pvp is so scuffed I dont think I will be continuing with this game, sad they had to ruin it like that. I am not salty I am just disappointed.

I understand where you are coming from but in my 1 week of playing I met alot of people with exotics some with just ascended gear and most of them didnt even have food buffs and were destroying people fully buffed up with all kinds of shit, buffs and gear are just not that major you might think 10% is big time but trust me it aint if you know how to outplay and opponent. The class balance is the issue you wouldnt see people playing mainly the same class if it werent broken thats how the "meta" is, even go type in google "gw2 wvw builds" and you get websites with meta builds and it states "META" and people mainly play that regardless if they like it or not, anything for the kills and feel good effect right ? Ascended gear and food buffs have existed for forever I can tell you there were times I use to run with no food buffs and I would destroy the competition so dont take this game as if its Black Desert Online where food buffs actually matter unless you are extrememely overgeared.

Can relate to you 100%. Similar story here. Played PvP/WvW small scale/roaming since launch almost. Took it seriously and very competitively. Also don't want to brag but our PvP and WvW skill would really be in ranks of Top players today. And our team saw it quite early how it's starting to go downhill. It was around mid days of HoT expansion but we still carried on. Made bunch of suggestions/feedback on balance what can be done to save it and not completely deteriorate PvP. So even back then in HoT days we saw nothin is being done no one cares and felt like our days are limited. Fastforward to like LW3 and pre-PoF days.. like 90% of our team quitted. We knew it's gonna happen but it was sad seeing all that process of PvP dying and still trying to be hopeful. Some people might think "omg but in HoT / pre-PoF days it was amazing pvp was healthy". Yea... nope. There were tons of issues but the main issue is just not being able to deal with new elite specs. Nerf that buff that. Then redo it. Then repeat the nerf/buff nonsence all over again. They just didnt know what to do. At this point i think it would've been even better if there were no elite specs or some vanilla version of this game. Anet weren't able to balance elite specs at all. And of course cherry on TOP was PoF elite specs. Anyway.. by that time most of us quitted the game and some of us carried on and switched to PvE. Never have i thought that i'll be "forced" to become a PvE player.. but there it is. Since PvE was never somethin i was interested in you can imagine how motivated i am to play this game. So i guess u r right. It's dead and beyond fixing. Might as well just remove PvP mode and advertise your game as a PvE only and strict-to-meta game. And WvW? Oh well.. u can leave that only for zergs. They just stack tons of FBs/Revs/Scourges these days and run around map "skillfully". In short - u either are interested in PvE and stay away from PvP. Or carry on and find other games. U can always come back here and check balance patches if something impactful was done. Mostly those balance patches just cheer me up and i log out for another half a year. At least one more person that has put themselves in my shoes and knows exactly what I speak of, many dont even know that back then you can burst anyone with any class. I barely saw a single ranger in wvw to me that said alot. I am trying hard to think of reasons to play even thought of re rolling to go to a meta class that might help me dominate in wvw so far nothing motivates me.