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PvP was an easy way to complete your dailes before but now there is plenty of easy ways in PvE too
PvP rewards are in the worst place they've been for a long time
PvP is the least fun it's every been with less and less players, broken matchmaking and almost every match being full of AFKs, match fixers or just toxic players who spend the entire match typing.
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On 9/29/2023 at 11:59 PM, Khalisto.5780 said:
You could play unranked for rewards on losses
Even a win in unranked gives less reward then a loss in ranked. There is never a point where playing unranked is a good idea unless you expect to lose and would rather protect your rank then get the extra rewards from ranked.
The reward being based primarily on Win/Lose is generally a bad idea, especially when most of the time if your Win or Lose is far more based on the actions of 9 other players then your own.
If match making actually worked everybody should be averaging a 50% win rate so half of your match are pointless anyway.
But match making just doesn't work anymore because there isn't enough players it's really just completely random at this point
There is no real reward for playing well and no downside to playing badly, AFKing, or just standing around typing at their team the entire match rather then playing.
Unless rewards are tied to individual player actions then there is no reason to make any effort or even try.
At this point i'm just counting down Ascended shards of Glory to finish my 2nd Mystforged legendery set, then i'll turn off PvP on the Wizard's vault and never touch PvP again.
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12 minutes ago, Drapoyo.8150 said:
Instead of weapon swap, I would like kits to be in F1-F4 slots. This leaves the skill slot for utility skills.
That would mean loosing toolbelt skills and by extension would mean no kits on mechanists. Not having to use utility skills for kits would help balance that.
My main issue with 0 weapon swap in combat is if you enter combat with the wrong weapon set equipped you could be stuck as ranged or melee when you want the opposite or may not be able to generate alacrity or quickness.
Always having 4 kits would solve the range issue but wouldn't solve the alac/quick issue.
Even just having the weapon swap on a longer cooldown (like 60s) would be something-
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Just now, zeyeti.8347 said:
If engi gets a weapon swap so do ele will deserve one too , yes we have 20 weapons skills , and you think as healer or dps we use all of them ? weaver condi go earth and fire , thats 10 weapon skills who arent used (even more with 2x attunement) , healer maybe utilize 10 skills either you play staff or dagger/Scepter/warhorn , and don't forget engi has his toolbelt , thats 5 more skills to use , i know some of them are really not appealing and get no use depending of your utilitys ,
If all weapon skills had a shared cooldown then yes, give Ele's a weapon swap too. That would help make Ele's more accessible and give people more options. All good
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Guardian has Tomes on Firebrand Spec
Warrior has Gunsaber on Bladesworn
Ranger has Celestial form on Druid
Thief has Shadow Shroud on Specter
Elementalists have 4 elements per weapon AND can Conjure Weapons
Necromancers have 3 types of Shrouds
At this point only Mesmer and and Revenant don't have some form of weapon kit.
So why is Engineer the only one that can't change weapon during combat?
If they're concerned about people swapping weapons too much to avoid weapon cooldowns then they should just make weapon cooldowns per slot.
Example, use skill 5 and it goes into a 20s cooldown, change weapon, you still have to wait 20s for that to recharge.
It would make it so much easier to balance damage around that and make Elementalist a far more accessible profession too. Everybody would win-
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Just now, Dante.1508 said:
If PvP and WvW are required now i'm done, i'll do the expac story and move on.
Well you can untick those and opt out of them completely but you'll still need to complete all 3 of the 3 assigned PvE tasks and you will not have the option to go do an easy WvW or PvP daily instead and basically those game modes will have even less value.
That seams to be where is this heading, people will hard commit to 1 game mode.
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4 hours ago, Ashen.2907 said:
Anyone see a scholar relic? I've a power burst build that is weaker without it. Perhaps one of those posters who repeatedly said that we would not be weaker after the relic implementation could point out where I can get back my +10% health on my tanky characters too.
Actually, I think/hope this was intentional. That 5% damage >90% health was far too much of a go to that nobody was going to pick anything else. I would hope it leads to power builds using more varied choices. Relic of the Thief and Relic of Fireworks are going to be a good choices for a lot of people.
I wish they had kept a max health boost option, especially for the low health classes but the ones with pet bonuses are far more of a shame. Maybe they wasn't the best in high end content but they were fun to use in PvE and added a bit of character.
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Question for those that are reacting as confused:
Have you tried the new system? What game modes did you pick? Will it change what you are going to play?
Were you doing dallies every day before? If so are you still going to complete them every day now you don't have any freedom and must complete the 3 assigned tasks for 1g?
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You have to hard commit to a game mode to even choose that game mode as an option.
There is no flexibility to do some things from one game mode and some things from another how you feel. You can't choose to just do the PvE based WvW rewards. You can't opt in to do PvP without being forced to do PvP and have less PvE rewards for it.
It's going to do a good job at getting people to pick one game mode to commit to (PvE) and stop playing the others.-
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When we had a choice I mostly played a PvP match or 2 as i'm also needed Ascended Shards of Glory for a legendary set and then I could concentrate on PvE knowing I had my 2 gold nice and easy. I occasionally went to WvW but just for the PvE parts like Veteran Creature, Ruins, Camps, Caravans and don't have any interest in the rest.
But now because you have to do all of the dailies you are assigned and have no choice I've dropped WvW completely and probably am just not going to play it at all anymore.
I've picked PvP because I'm still playing PvP and they seam nice easy stuff to do just from playing a few matches as normal and i've picked PvE because that is where I spend most of my time.
I can't opt out of PvE because then I wouldn't get any rewards for PvE (and the Weekly PvE stuff looks more fun) but because I'm opted in for PvE I get less rewards playing PvP and am now forced to do at least 1 PvE task as well (and for less reward)I'm getting close to finishing this PvP armor set and then I have to consider if I want to opt out of PvP completely too and just stick to PvE so I'm not forced to do both.
Only having 3 dailies assigned and having to complete them with no choice is just going to push people out of playing game modes completely. It's just too much of a commitment to play something you might not want to do that day.
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20 hours ago, Kracion.3025 said:
the fact that robot can not be used underwater
Actually...............
Try getting on a Warclaw and then jumping straight into the water...
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To be fair, they could just up the map close timer to 2 hours. That would prevent issues from meta's
I still want to see a fix so fishing buffs carry over too though, that one ruins fishing for me
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I sort of like that quickness generation here looks so passive, that should make it easy to balance too
If they made it the same on all professions for their quickness/alac then it would be easy to balance it so you needed full celestial or something to keep it up
Also, 600 range should be the standard, let people move and dodge and end stacking
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This may be a bit of a hot take but..................
Remove group alac and quickness from traits completely and put it on Relics..........
They're adding Relics to unlink rune effects from runes, as well as big bonuses to damage, health, movement speed ect.They could add ones like "When you grant barrier you also grant Alacrity", "Your pets gives quickness to nearby allies", "Wells give alacrity to nearby allies" etc. etc. just a whole bunch of options that give you different options for both.
That way you can just play whatever spec you want and just pick the relic that matches you play style. You wouldn't be able to use the damage boosting Relics so there would be a trade off but they can balance that easily.
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6 hours ago, Noxin.9276 said:
Fun in your book was pressing gyros on cooldown?
It's not that pressing gyros is fun, it's that you can don't have to worry about pressing a whole bunch of different skills in spread between you utilities, weapons, weapon-kits, and toolbelt, in a specific order and can concentrate on using your weapon, using the skills you want to use, moving and dodging and resurrecting people..........the actual fun stuff
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6 hours ago, Eugenides.1274 said:
think you're a bit too optimistic with this being a "1 go" sort of fix.
Do you think the current thief would be playable with 10 second revealed? There would have to be significant overhauls to our traits and abilities if we were no longer able to rely on stealth and stealth attacks. I'm not saying that would be a bad thing but changing revealed duration is not an insignificant change.Would there?
No high end builds are using stealth anyway because of the loss of DPS from spending time hiding or running away. Your team would rightly kick you for being a waste of space.
The only real usage for stealth is PvP decapping and running away from fights. This wouldn't stop it people doing this, it would just make them have to think about attacking out of stealth when they have no intention of winning a fight and are just intending to run away after 3 seconds anyway.10 seconds of Revealed might slow down a Deadeye against some weaker enemies but not so much again larger enemies and 10 seconds of Revealed Training would be a nice boost to make up for any slowdown.
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2 hours ago, Zizekent.2398 said:
No
To be fair to them that took 2 thieves with some serious coordination and as a result they had almost 0 DPS. Giving thieves traps back, with or without stealth from Rune of the Trapper would not have made this any worse.
Either way though, increasing Revealed to 10 seconds would end this silliness in 1 go.
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15 hours ago, Eugenides.1274 said:
Trapper thief was the ultimate gimmick build and you want to bring that back.
Right now Ranger and Guardian are doing stealth traps anyway, what what would this change really make? It would make stealth more accessible to thieves and make work less hard on combo fields to keep up stealth. Being able to use Rune of the Trapper isn't going to make them do any more DPS or anything. It wouldn't change PvP or WvW in any meaningful way.
9 hours ago, DeceiverX.8361 said:Should they have just removed/reworked trapper runes to no longer provide stealth? Yes. But as it stands, it's a horrible idea to re-implement traps on the thief for a ton of reasons.
TBH, either or.
Thieves are meant to be the stealth class but right now it's far easier to do stealth on other classes.They could make it easier to do it on thief and balance around that with changes to Revealed
Or they could just remove the stealth on using a trap skill effect. Hey, with Relics coming, maybe they'll just cut that effect from the game, problem solved. Rune of the Trapper will still be a good rune with just the extra condi damage and duration.
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4 hours ago, DeceiverX.8361 said:
I meant on thief in general
Stealth Thief is a gimmick build anyway. If your playing stealth thief you have already given up on doing any serious level of DPS or doing anything else well apart from running away and the odd bit of decapping in PvP
At least a decent amount of Revealed would get you a nice damage boost from Revealed Training to make up for it. Stealth might actually be worth it for high end content then.
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11 minutes ago, DeceiverX.8361 said:
10s of Revealed is more or less a death sentence these days lol.
Yes! The is the point!
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Now just about every profession in the game can do stealth and do it easier then a thief, isn't it time we get trap skills back?
The issue they fixed is now so beyond broken that there really doesn't seam to be an issue with theives having access to more stealth now.
I do think changes to balance stealth could be made but a far better way then limiting stealth would be to increase Revealed to 10 seconds.
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The latest patch has brought us underwater mechs!
Unfortunately it seams to be a bug. Walk into water and you mech disappears.
Get on a Warclaw (and only a Warclaw but it can be in WvW or PvE) and jump into water so you dismount and your mech will appear underwater with you!!!!!!
The F1 and F3 keys are greyed and your mech will not attach but it will still follow you around as if it is flying and Barrier Signet will cause Barrier around the mech as if you was above water.
Depth charge also seams to still work too.It actually looks pretty awesome with it's thrusters firing underwater. I really hope ANET make this a legitimate thing soon!
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On 5/28/2023 at 8:46 PM, CalmTheStorm.2364 said:
Here's an idea for you all:
0 pips for loss
6 pips for close loss
10 pips for win
1 pip per stat category if you get at least 20% of your team's value (i.e., you "pull your weight" in that category).
1 additional pip per category if you got top stats in that category.
I would go further in that 2 pips per 100 points your team has. That way there is always an incentive to do something now matter how far behind your team is. It also would mean in Legacy of the Foefire, your team is above 450 points and you kill the lord and end on over 600 points there would be an extra reward for that.
To counteract anyone AFKing while their team gets 100 or 200 points and still getting a reward I would just say no rewards for players that don't meet some minimum participation requirement in at least 1 of the stats.
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6 hours ago, Myror.7521 said:
the only Shadow Side of this rewarding system would be ....... you could actually have no (yes I mean No) top Stat in a Match but still carry it. For example a Warrior as a Sidenote would go for 1v1 or Just 1vX this leads into him gain no top Stats cause his Point will maybe be Always captured (cause he won every matchub). In this case he does not gain any top Stats while get the Point tick for His Team the whole Match (and also kill peops there). Plus let His teammates maybe gain the upper hand by duelling another Person or simply two persons at the Same time.
Just to say it in short you could absolutely carry a Match without any top Stats gained. So with your system, If you want to get rewarded you would need to use mid Fight only classes in a Gamemode that is played with +1/Sidenote/midfights/Roaming roles.
To be clear I am not talking about actually using the Top Stat aware itself but they could give idea's of categories that get rewarded for. Part of it could be based on how much you contributed to the team as a % but part of it could just be a flat reward based on what you did and nothing else.
In your example a sidenoder would almost always be capturing or defending a node, they would be doing DPS on anyone they are fighting and kill at least a few people.
The aim would be that even if you are the worst player in the game or have a team of AFKers or whatever you are always better just carrying on and having a go because the more you play the more you earn.
Right now people just see that they're loosing and give up because there is no reward for trying.
What Can ArenaNet Actually do To Make PvP Better? (A Thread for Thoughts)
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But the problem is your insentified to play ranked which is so full of toxic players, afks, match fixing.
I might actually enjoy playing unranked if it didn't have those things but while i'm farming Ascended Shards of Glory it would just be slowing me down
You know what, the one PvP map I actually enjoy is Battle of Champion's Dusk, the Stronghold match type is actually far more interesting then Conquest (Legacy of the Foefire is at least a bit interesting).
If PvP actually had a future they should really swap to Stronghold matches, they would be far better for getting teams to work together. (Assuming they actually did something about all the AFKs and matchfixers)