[energy cost and cool downs]

Its a call back to GW1 style of play, if it doesn't appeal to you. There are 8 other classes. I've played Rev since HoT launch and it feels good in PvE, my only complaints about it are the lack of weapons and elites spec that dont suit my taste. But I understand that should issues are my problem.

[Official Ritualist thread]

@Lily.1935 said:

@draxynnic.3719 said:

@Lily.1935 said:Ritualist summons the dead. The revenant has no such limitations. This might be hard for you to hear this, but the only limitation the Revenant has is that the person they're channeling has to currently be in the mists. It doesn't mean they have to be dead. We saw this with Palawa Joko in the Living story and its likely that the revenant could channel someone like Arkk who never technically died but is lost in the mists. You want to hyper narrow the Revenant's scope to the Death magic that the Ritualist and Necromancer both share. When there is no such limitations. Revenant magic is chaotic and unstable. The stabilizing element is their Legend which grants them access to their abilities. They are more akin to a Blue mage. I will not ignore some of the similarities they have with both necromancer and Ritualist, they do have some. But I also can't ignore the Identity of the ritualist which is that of a Shaman dancer, using bones and ashes to commune with the dead.

I think it's a bit deeper than that. Revenants have to channel someone which had a significant enough impact to leave a strong echo in the Mists. Joko, for instance, is an individual who has shaped Elonian history for centuries, and not just in the obvious way - the rise to power of the Ossa family and the founding of the Order of Whispers were both in response to him. He's definitely a revenant legend candidate, albeit probably one the PC will never use thanks to that "ugh, never again" response. There are actually pretty strong signs that, contrary to what the PC thought, Joko had already left the mists at that point, but there was still enough there to use.

Characters whose main claim to fame is opposing a particular villain, however, do not seem to qualify - in these cases, it's the villain that created a big enough impact for the legend to form around. For instance, Shiro represents the events of Factions and the Jade Wind - Vizu, Archemorous, and the others are part of Shiro's legend. The exception seems to be when the primary actor is of the power level of a god or Elder Dragon, or is a dependent champion of an Elder Dragon, such as the Great Destroyer. Now, I don't think ArenaNet has explicitly stated that these are the requirements, but it does seem to fit what we've seen thus far - a legend must have had a significant impact on at least one culture, and they have to do so at least partially on their own initiative rather than simply trying to stop someone else.

Ironically, if we were to have another legend focused around summoning spirits, I could see it being King Adelbern.

There is a problem with this hypothesis of yours. And that's Mallyx. Mallyx is not a significant demon in the lore of Tyria and had little individual impact on the story. Varesh Ossa on the other hand was quite prominent. There is no suggestion that the Revenant can channels legends that are currently in Tyria, although considering that Time is irrelevant to the mists, they could channel a version of King Adelbern. Although if you wanted to play like the king he'd function more like a Minion Master as opposed to a Spirit spammer since he's acting as a commander of forces not a conjurer of the mists.

The Legends must be significant enough in some way. Either powerful or legendary. Much of what the Revenant does would technically allow them to act as any profession in the game, They could channel a necromancer or warrior just fine and gain there abilities. Arkk is a legend that could be channeled. If personal legend is a factor, he's known among Mist being. Otherwise his mother who spearheaded the fractals project in the first place would be a legend enough to be called on.

Usoku Is such a legend that would satisfy your criteria though. His actions are influenced by Shiro, but Shiro's actions were influenced by a minor demon in the story.

Um yes Mallyx was huge tho, He was a last general of Abaddon and was out to kill Kormir AFTER she had ascended to godhood. A feat well within his capabilities. He was lvl 33 in Hard Mode meaning he was stronger than Abaddon himself. He was damn near unkillable in GW1. No, he was part of the main story but he did play a huge part of the story in the Realm of Torment. I like the fact the GW2 gives him a nod as rev is suppose to be a veteran class its nice to see hardcore GW1 stuff acknowledge. Varesh was just a traitor by comparison and not even relevant in term of power.

[Official Ritualist thread]

It just dawn on me, but I'd love the next elite spec to be Nika and for or it be really power offensive. While, id prefer Greatsword I think it would be ok if we got dagger for both slots. Shiro imo for pve doesnt really go well with much and we basically just camp sword / sword. (I'll reiterate im talking for power here).

It terms of ritualist tho, they should add a legend to core for invocation filling that fantasy and add scepter/ focus / dagger with that. God knows rev is seriously lacking in the customization and its mainly due to our inability to customize our skill bars and extremely small weapon pool.

Imo I want the legend to be a memorable character with a SOLID weapon and skill set. Kalla was awful because she came from no where im terms of gw1 lore, her weapon shortbow was wonky (bloodbane path of frustration and seven arrow of missing) and the spirits that suck with geometry. It was half decent at condi but has always felt like hybrid. I really hope the 3rd elite will do better because kalla and glint have honestly been a such a hard let down.

[How would you redesign the revenant?]

@Orpheal.8263 said:

@Ashantara.8731 said:I hope the next Elite Spec will be more like the Ritualist. A Revenant, after all, is someone who has returned from the Mists. There should be something creepy to it (in relation to spirits and ghosts) rather than evoking some lame legends.

the only class that ever should receive a Ritualist Spec is the Necromancer - Ritualist as like Necrmancers are OCCULTISTS, they belong together, commanding ghosts or undeads is basically the same, just that ghosts are still souls that are bonded by emotion to this mortal world, until they can do what bonds them to the world to find their peace so that they can finally rest in the mists... thats also why the ritualist ghosts were all based on negative emotions, like pain, sorrow ect.

They were separate classes in GW1, why would they now be the same class? That doesn't make sense. The rev is the spiritual successor for Ritualist and should move in that direction.

[GEMSTORE REQUESTS: New Items; Items offered again - [Merged]]

Foefire Wraps reappear pleaseeeeee!! Its been like 2 years, its time remember Ascalon

[Official Ritualist thread]

I agree that Rev has inspiration from Ritualist. As for the weapon I'd like greatsword as a fast paced ranged / minion option. Imagined when you shealth the weapon it becomes enchanted and starts moving around on its own and aiding you in combat. (think like how balthazar's sword moves around ) . when drawn it can be a fast paced melee power weapon thats damage comes from its skills not its AA. I mean sword does a good amount of sustain but its boring and no more legendary really compilements shiro well. I mean glint is kinda meh if you have a good build for might and jalus is ok but very passive.

Honestly a think rev could use a little love in the skills offered by most of its legends.

[Things that make me sad about the new Expansion announcement]

I'm from Trinidad where the exchange rate is 1 USD to 7 TTD and its not an issue for me to afford a game. Imo OP just doesnt want to pay for the expansion. Its like he says tho he refuses to pay and thats cool he'll just wait however long till a sale I guess.

[Returning Player thinking about Rerolling (Revenant to Mesmer) Thank you for the help!]

Hi, First I want to say thanks for giving your time to read this!

My Main is a Revenant with full ascended gear + 4 extra inventory expansion slots also have a legendary sword. I've played alot of MMOs and usually enjoy playing tanks. Pre-HoT I thought a heavy armored class would of been a tank for raiding and crafted Ascended heavy and after seeing Elite specialization previews I though Guardian / Herald would of been the tank. I was wrong and soon left the game (due to unrelated reasons).

So now I'm back with some time and looking at mesmer as a tank for raiding. However, I'd like some community feedback on if this actually is worth it. In terms of all the gold I've invested for ascended, in essence I'd have to craft all of my armor over and purchase new bag slots (Ikr i dont HAVE to but come on 4 20 slots is torture). I am assuming Ascended is still a difficult and expensive venture. Any advise? (Am I overestimating the cost of ascended? does exotic really do fine and ascend is just a nice bonus? is Chronomancer ACTUALLY A TANK?!?)

Also since the last time I played was PoF (beat the expansion) would it wise to actually lvl my mesmer or should I just boost it is 80? ( I have one boost just lying around)

[Your -realistic- wishlist/expectations for Expansion 3?]

Personally, I'm not a fan of adding a Orge race mainly because they do not really work with our current races (lorewise) or have alot of lore around them in general. The same could be said about the centaur, no way the humans are just going to up and ally with them. As for orcs they dont even exist in this universe. (as far as i'm aware).

The Largos is an extremely interesting race imo with lore and hints at the beginning of GW2, I really think they were the 6th race that got cut. Additionally they also have a close to human skeleton (Disclaimer: I do not know how the GW2 engine works) but I assume that will cut down alot of development time as they may be able to reuse many assets.

The Tengu is another one that would be good alot of older players would like if it was well designed (yea I know that is as vague as it gets). There is also the possibility that existing races like the Sylvari will get more customization options in Cantha because of the Kurzicks (if they still exist).