Fire X.5184

I give it a week, after that I will take my gaming elsewhere. I give it a week because it says that there is 4 more days till they remove the 30 pack adoption mount papers and maybe then they might say something after they are done milking the whales.

And this is basically why there's been some backlash against players who feed into this. I don't think anyone's gonna argue that those players are doing so with the ill intention of ruining the game for others. Maybe they're just much better off than a lot of us or enjoy it enough to not mind the cost, but it doesn't change the fact that this money grabbing tactic is a problem. Say other players explain to them and they even start to sort of agree; it doesn't affect them enough to be vocal about it. It's unfortunate that it's come to this but rather than a bunch of us "expendable" players whining that it's having a negative effect on the game and community, ANET's cash cows are also joining the discussion because it's now also affecting them. A better business model for this fiasco would hurt literally none of the players, and even if ANET takes a financial hit, I imagine it would be incredibly marginal once you take into account all of the boycotting players are now willing to drop cash and buy stuff again. None of the players are at fault here, ANET's the one pitting the players who care and the players who don't against each other by doing something completely unnecessary. Again never thought of it that way. Dang you guys are good at this o.o

Hm...never thought about it that way till now...tip of the hat my good sir

I'm on it!

I agree. See if they make it that I can choose what skin I want then no problems here (other then 2000 gems is a bit much). It's the RNG hands down that is getting everyone upset. If there was no RNG loot boxes this hole outrage would never have happen.

That's how I feel mate. Good on you.

Oh dang we are getting into RL territory here.

You're saying they're not at fault, but they are.... they did vote with their wallets, for a long time possibly, and here we are. Alienate the player base does do something - and it's a direct result from ANet's actions, and those that "voted"... Aka "people thinking their opinion is automatically righteous".My "vote" is equals to yours, if I didn't have a problem back, I don't have to automatically have one now because you just realized now that RNG is a thing. People blamed everything they could possibly blame. Anet of course, but also gambling itself, even though so many things in this world are subject to gambling.No selling gambling things to kids? What do you of trading cards?What do you do with RNG items you get in game with gold?What do you of ecto gambling?What do you do of BLC keys?What do you of RNG loot in general? EVERYTHING is RNG, paid or not, hidden behind "gold" (so potential irl money) or not.And yes, even if you can buy the infamous permanent bank access, given its amount, if you strictly talk gem value it's much higher than these skins, yet somehow it's still wasn't a problem back then. So KICKING people now, because somehow now the general consensus is that players decided this one wasn't going to pass, while they let it go for years, is absolutely stupid. It's stupid, it alienates players, and that's not gonna get you what you want. You can either be a silent guy who simply give the feedback that they won't buy mounts until they can select, or you can find people to blame.Blaming it on gambling in general or whales is simply unacceptable. I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point... Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins? Not yet - but hey that's one way to further the message. I think people are doing that now as we speak. I herd from a friend that people are being kicked from guilds because buying the RNG loot box skins is hurting the game. Congratulations, these people are hurting their own cause.Shame on Anet they said? Nope. Shame on these people. Hey love hurts as they say. Sometimes you need to have some tough love to know you did something wrong. They didn't do anything wrong for getting skins they wanted.If you want to show anet they did something that is alienating the playerbase, this is definitely the worst way of doing so, by forcing your opinion down the throat of other players.Next time start kicking people having lots of merchant express or perma bank or whatever. And see how long it lasts. Did nothing wrong? If you spend any money on something that is this type of RNG loot box corruption, taking advantage of people's addictions and so on your not helping by giving the company who made this gambling system your money. Your part of the problem or you have a problem. But hey i'm just one guy on the net. But I know who can help in this situation. Jim take it away I am addicted to gambling, I simply won't take the easy path and blame each and every company that uses gambling methods. If you actually open your eyes, gambling is everywhere and this mount thing is the least hurtful we've gotten in a while. Also it's a funny thing, you basically say that these gambling addicts are victim, but somehow it's not a problem to kick these victims in the name of revolution?Which side wins? Kicking these people or considering them victims? Also, everyone is responsible for their actions, I am responsible for my addiction as much as a smoker is responsible for his. Well I am sorry you have a gambling problem but let me be clear. The guild kicking I don't like but the party kicking like many have been saying, some people don't like to play with people who ruin the game for others. I have seen many players in LA saying they don't care what there doing is good or bad for the game so in term why should I or anyone else care if they get kicked from a party. Guild is one thing but party, there are more fish in the sea as they say. All this mentality of "I don't care I get skins now" is telling anet "hey guys they love this new system let's keep doing it". What is going to happen when the next RNG loot boxes is added? And the next one? And the next one? It will spiral out of control and who will suffer from this? People who have gambling problems and people like myself who love the cosmetics they make and it's all thanks to the people who told me today "I don't care". Well, if you can successfully delude yourself into thinking that by buying mount skins those people are ruining the game for others and are wrong to do so but your choice to ostracise them based on their gem purchases isn't ruining the game for others and you are right to do so... assuming this isn't just attention-seeking idiocy you're spouting, then I really think you would benefit from some self-reflection. You don't know how loot boxes work do you....I mean it's not like EA and Activision have had a big controversy over this all ready...oh wait! But all sarcasm aside it is a slippery slope. First it's RNG boxes for skins for mounts, then its RNG boxes for out fits, then its RNG boxes for dye's...oh wait..they already have that...then it's RNG boxes for and dare I say it, gear. So when I and many other's feel buying the RNG loot boxes for skins will hurt gw2 you better believe it because we have seen it before and if you don't think it will hurt the game/community I implore you to look into the EA and activison controversy It's exactly because of their big recent controversies that I think that most of this "outrage" bullkitten is misplaced and coming from people who, quite honestly from their posts in this thread, don't know how loot boxes work.They're jumping on an outrage bandwagon because it feels nice, with no actual understanding of the underlying principles or the shades of grey, and a bullthick refusal to educate themselves when they could just instead rely on emotive diatribe, broad sweeping statements and the use of fashionable buzzwords. It's because people had enough is all. But anyway i'm going to leave it at that, Have a good one.

You're saying they're not at fault, but they are.... they did vote with their wallets, for a long time possibly, and here we are. Alienate the player base does do something - and it's a direct result from ANet's actions, and those that "voted"... Aka "people thinking their opinion is automatically righteous".My "vote" is equals to yours, if I didn't have a problem back, I don't have to automatically have one now because you just realized now that RNG is a thing. People blamed everything they could possibly blame. Anet of course, but also gambling itself, even though so many things in this world are subject to gambling.No selling gambling things to kids? What do you of trading cards?What do you do with RNG items you get in game with gold?What do you of ecto gambling?What do you do of BLC keys?What do you of RNG loot in general? EVERYTHING is RNG, paid or not, hidden behind "gold" (so potential irl money) or not.And yes, even if you can buy the infamous permanent bank access, given its amount, if you strictly talk gem value it's much higher than these skins, yet somehow it's still wasn't a problem back then. So KICKING people now, because somehow now the general consensus is that players decided this one wasn't going to pass, while they let it go for years, is absolutely stupid. It's stupid, it alienates players, and that's not gonna get you what you want. You can either be a silent guy who simply give the feedback that they won't buy mounts until they can select, or you can find people to blame.Blaming it on gambling in general or whales is simply unacceptable. I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point... Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins? Not yet - but hey that's one way to further the message. I think people are doing that now as we speak. I herd from a friend that people are being kicked from guilds because buying the RNG loot box skins is hurting the game. Congratulations, these people are hurting their own cause.Shame on Anet they said? Nope. Shame on these people. Hey love hurts as they say. Sometimes you need to have some tough love to know you did something wrong. They didn't do anything wrong for getting skins they wanted.If you want to show anet they did something that is alienating the playerbase, this is definitely the worst way of doing so, by forcing your opinion down the throat of other players.Next time start kicking people having lots of merchant express or perma bank or whatever. And see how long it lasts. Did nothing wrong? If you spend any money on something that is this type of RNG loot box corruption, taking advantage of people's addictions and so on your not helping by giving the company who made this gambling system your money. Your part of the problem or you have a problem. But hey i'm just one guy on the net. But I know who can help in this situation. Jim take it away I am addicted to gambling, I simply won't take the easy path and blame each and every company that uses gambling methods. If you actually open your eyes, gambling is everywhere and this mount thing is the least hurtful we've gotten in a while. Also it's a funny thing, you basically say that these gambling addicts are victim, but somehow it's not a problem to kick these victims in the name of revolution?Which side wins? Kicking these people or considering them victims? Also, everyone is responsible for their actions, I am responsible for my addiction as much as a smoker is responsible for his. Well I am sorry you have a gambling problem but let me be clear. The guild kicking I don't like but the party kicking like many have been saying, some people don't like to play with people who ruin the game for others. I have seen many players in LA saying they don't care what there doing is good or bad for the game so in term why should I or anyone else care if they get kicked from a party. Guild is one thing but party, there are more fish in the sea as they say. All this mentality of "I don't care I get skins now" is telling anet "hey guys they love this new system let's keep doing it". What is going to happen when the next RNG loot boxes is added? And the next one? And the next one? It will spiral out of control and who will suffer from this? People who have gambling problems and people like myself who love the cosmetics they make and it's all thanks to the people who told me today "I don't care". I don't think many people are telling you they don't care. I do care. I wish my casual friend could get back in game, get the mount he wants and have fun with it. I get it.What I don't get, nor accept, is the total overreaction on this particular topic.We HAVE to be honest here, it's less about the fact it's a new RNG and more about the fact that this time around, really a LOT more people want these skins for many reasons (cause mounts are cooler than gliders, cause it's really new, cause there's no alt skin in game) etc. And lots of these "people" aren't used to gamble for what they want, like some of us are. This doesn't mean they get to step in and call Anet (and other players) names. I do support every person in this thread coming up with ideas to make this system better - while still making it a win for Anet. The solution HAS to be a win for Anet too, because it's in our interest as players to have a game that last for a long time.There were quite a few interesting solutions, and I'm sure they're looking at it right now.But let's be honest, involving infamous youtubers that will compare this to EA/Activision level of BS was taking it too far. Kicking people is taking it too far. The top 1 priority for Anet will be to make money, it's how it is and we have to accept it, now we just need to convince them that the way for them to make more money is by trusting all these people who calmly said they would support anet if they drop RNG... and not fighting each other.It needs to deescalate or everyone will lose.I can some what agree with your points but why I and many people are bring in the EA/Activison thing into this loot boxes is because loot boxes have been around for years and the people have had enough. They had enough of the gambling and the people who support the gambling. So when anet show's even a small bit of loot box gambling yes people will get upset and say "that's enough". Bring the youtuber's like jim is happening because they been hitting the nail on the head for years and yet people Still STILL to this day will defend the gambling system. If people don't want to play with other's because they feel there hurting there game they love its up to them to do so. Hell I don't join guilds because I don't trust them but that's just me. People had enough of the loot box gambling system and of the people who support it. but this will keep going on for ever. I have my opinions and you have yours. I am going to leave it at that. Have a good one.

Every person that buys into this is yet another reason for ANet to not only keep it, but do it again. This is bad for the playerbase. Hurting the playerbase hurts the game in the long run. There's a saying I've loved from the first time I read it. "No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood." Everyone that buys into this is in part responsible for it. It also means that they don't care all that much about the impact of their choices on other players, or they simply don't have the best judgement. Hardly something you want in a teammate, right? It's like kicking people that refuse to have correct gear for a raid or high level fractal because they're okay with everyone else on the team taking on more of a burden due to them. Now, with all THAT said... bad behavior is bad behavior. Being a kitten is being a kitten. Don't be a badly behaved kitten.(We have real kittens for that, and I can guarantee they're cuter.) The thing is, with statements like And if you're kicking people from parties/guilds because they don't share your opinions that's like... Trump levels of wrong. And adding to the fire aka paying anet for a bad system does nothing to help the game. And really...really...you had to put trump into this... >.< What can I say, I thought the most bafflingly ridiculous thing I'd hear all week had come out of his mouth, but you managed to... trump him. =PI can only give you props for the pun and that's it

You're saying they're not at fault, but they are.... they did vote with their wallets, for a long time possibly, and here we are. Alienate the player base does do something - and it's a direct result from ANet's actions, and those that "voted"... Aka "people thinking their opinion is automatically righteous".My "vote" is equals to yours, if I didn't have a problem back, I don't have to automatically have one now because you just realized now that RNG is a thing. People blamed everything they could possibly blame. Anet of course, but also gambling itself, even though so many things in this world are subject to gambling.No selling gambling things to kids? What do you of trading cards?What do you do with RNG items you get in game with gold?What do you of ecto gambling?What do you do of BLC keys?What do you of RNG loot in general? EVERYTHING is RNG, paid or not, hidden behind "gold" (so potential irl money) or not.And yes, even if you can buy the infamous permanent bank access, given its amount, if you strictly talk gem value it's much higher than these skins, yet somehow it's still wasn't a problem back then. So KICKING people now, because somehow now the general consensus is that players decided this one wasn't going to pass, while they let it go for years, is absolutely stupid. It's stupid, it alienates players, and that's not gonna get you what you want. You can either be a silent guy who simply give the feedback that they won't buy mounts until they can select, or you can find people to blame.Blaming it on gambling in general or whales is simply unacceptable. I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point... Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins? Not yet - but hey that's one way to further the message. I think people are doing that now as we speak. I herd from a friend that people are being kicked from guilds because buying the RNG loot box skins is hurting the game. Congratulations, these people are hurting their own cause.Shame on Anet they said? Nope. Shame on these people. Hey love hurts as they say. Sometimes you need to have some tough love to know you did something wrong. They didn't do anything wrong for getting skins they wanted.If you want to show anet they did something that is alienating the playerbase, this is definitely the worst way of doing so, by forcing your opinion down the throat of other players.Next time start kicking people having lots of merchant express or perma bank or whatever. And see how long it lasts. Did nothing wrong? If you spend any money on something that is this type of RNG loot box corruption, taking advantage of people's addictions and so on your not helping by giving the company who made this gambling system your money. Your part of the problem or you have a problem. But hey i'm just one guy on the net. But I know who can help in this situation. Jim take it away I am addicted to gambling, I simply won't take the easy path and blame each and every company that uses gambling methods. If you actually open your eyes, gambling is everywhere and this mount thing is the least hurtful we've gotten in a while. Also it's a funny thing, you basically say that these gambling addicts are victim, but somehow it's not a problem to kick these victims in the name of revolution?Which side wins? Kicking these people or considering them victims? Also, everyone is responsible for their actions, I am responsible for my addiction as much as a smoker is responsible for his. Well I am sorry you have a gambling problem but let me be clear. The guild kicking I don't like but the party kicking like many have been saying, some people don't like to play with people who ruin the game for others. I have seen many players in LA saying they don't care what there doing is good or bad for the game so in term why should I or anyone else care if they get kicked from a party. Guild is one thing but party, there are more fish in the sea as they say. All this mentality of "I don't care I get skins now" is telling anet "hey guys they love this new system let's keep doing it". What is going to happen when the next RNG loot boxes is added? And the next one? And the next one? It will spiral out of control and who will suffer from this? People who have gambling problems and people like myself who love the cosmetics they make and it's all thanks to the people who told me today "I don't care". Well, if you can successfully delude yourself into thinking that by buying mount skins those people are ruining the game for others and are wrong to do so but your choice to ostracise them based on their gem purchases isn't ruining the game for others and you are right to do so... assuming this isn't just attention-seeking idiocy you're spouting, then I really think you would benefit from some self-reflection.You don't know how loot boxes work do you....I mean it's not like EA and Activision have had a big controversy over this all ready...oh wait! But all sarcasm aside it is a slippery slope. First it's RNG boxes for skins for mounts, then its RNG boxes for out fits, then its RNG boxes for dye's...oh wait..they already have that...then it's RNG boxes for and dare I say it, gear. So when I and many other's feel buying the RNG loot boxes for skins will hurt gw2 you better believe it because we have seen it before and if you don't think it will hurt the game/community I implore you to look into the EA and activison controversy

Every person that buys into this is yet another reason for ANet to not only keep it, but do it again. This is bad for the playerbase. Hurting the playerbase hurts the game in the long run. There's a saying I've loved from the first time I read it. "No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood." Everyone that buys into this is in part responsible for it. It also means that they don't care all that much about the impact of their choices on other players, or they simply don't have the best judgement. Hardly something you want in a teammate, right? It's like kicking people that refuse to have correct gear for a raid or high level fractal because they're okay with everyone else on the team taking on more of a burden due to them. Now, with all THAT said... bad behavior is bad behavior. Being a kitten is being a kitten. Don't be a badly behaved kitten.(We have real kittens for that, and I can guarantee they're cuter.) The thing is, with statements like And if you're kicking people from parties/guilds because they don't share your opinions that's like... Trump levels of wrong.And adding to the fire aka paying anet for a bad system does nothing to help the game. And really...really...you had to put trump into this... >.<

You're saying they're not at fault, but they are.... they did vote with their wallets, for a long time possibly, and here we are. Alienate the player base does do something - and it's a direct result from ANet's actions, and those that "voted"... Aka "people thinking their opinion is automatically righteous".My "vote" is equals to yours, if I didn't have a problem back, I don't have to automatically have one now because you just realized now that RNG is a thing. People blamed everything they could possibly blame. Anet of course, but also gambling itself, even though so many things in this world are subject to gambling.No selling gambling things to kids? What do you of trading cards?What do you do with RNG items you get in game with gold?What do you of ecto gambling?What do you do of BLC keys?What do you of RNG loot in general? EVERYTHING is RNG, paid or not, hidden behind "gold" (so potential irl money) or not.And yes, even if you can buy the infamous permanent bank access, given its amount, if you strictly talk gem value it's much higher than these skins, yet somehow it's still wasn't a problem back then. So KICKING people now, because somehow now the general consensus is that players decided this one wasn't going to pass, while they let it go for years, is absolutely stupid. It's stupid, it alienates players, and that's not gonna get you what you want. You can either be a silent guy who simply give the feedback that they won't buy mounts until they can select, or you can find people to blame.Blaming it on gambling in general or whales is simply unacceptable. I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point... Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins? Not yet - but hey that's one way to further the message. I think people are doing that now as we speak. I herd from a friend that people are being kicked from guilds because buying the RNG loot box skins is hurting the game. Congratulations, these people are hurting their own cause.Shame on Anet they said? Nope. Shame on these people. Hey love hurts as they say. Sometimes you need to have some tough love to know you did something wrong. They didn't do anything wrong for getting skins they wanted.If you want to show anet they did something that is alienating the playerbase, this is definitely the worst way of doing so, by forcing your opinion down the throat of other players.Next time start kicking people having lots of merchant express or perma bank or whatever. And see how long it lasts. Did nothing wrong? If you spend any money on something that is this type of RNG loot box corruption, taking advantage of people's addictions and so on your not helping by giving the company who made this gambling system your money. Your part of the problem or you have a problem. But hey i'm just one guy on the net. But I know who can help in this situation. Jim take it away I am addicted to gambling, I simply won't take the easy path and blame each and every company that uses gambling methods. If you actually open your eyes, gambling is everywhere and this mount thing is the least hurtful we've gotten in a while. Also it's a funny thing, you basically say that these gambling addicts are victim, but somehow it's not a problem to kick these victims in the name of revolution?Which side wins? Kicking these people or considering them victims? Also, everyone is responsible for their actions, I am responsible for my addiction as much as a smoker is responsible for his.Well I am sorry you have a gambling problem but let me be clear. The guild kicking I don't like but the party kicking like many have been saying, some people don't like to play with people who ruin the game for others. I have seen many players in LA saying they don't care what there doing is good or bad for the game so in term why should I or anyone else care if they get kicked from a party. Guild is one thing but party, there are more fish in the sea as they say. All this mentality of "I don't care I get skins now" is telling anet "hey guys they love this new system let's keep doing it". What is going to happen when the next RNG loot boxes is added? And the next one? And the next one? It will spiral out of control and who will suffer from this? People who have gambling problems and people like myself who love the cosmetics they make and it's all thanks to the people who told me today "I don't care".

I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point... Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins? Not yet - but hey that's one way to further the message. I think people are doing that now as we speak. I herd from a friend that people are being kicked from guilds because buying the RNG loot box skins is hurting the game. Congratulations, these people are hurting their own cause.Shame on Anet they said? Nope. Shame on these people.Hey love hurts as they say. Sometimes you need to have some tough love to know you did something wrong.

I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point... Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins? Not yet - but hey that's one way to further the message.I think people are doing that now as we speak. I herd from a friend that people are being kicked from guilds because buying the RNG loot box skins is hurting the game.

I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA. Meh... Honestly the thought of not inviting people with skins into parties/booting them from parties is kind of lingering at this point...Wait people boot people from parties because they got the new skins?

I totally agree with you, I feel the same :angry: Oooooh trust me my good sir. I have seen to many people who have fallen into this trap today in LA.

Says:You're luckyYou have money to spendYou're encourage further cash shop development of this kind. (Thanks buddy! You're partially the cause of this thread and where the industry is headed in general) That sums it up lol

@Fire X.5184 said: Someone did not see the star wars battlefront 2/COD loot boxes system controversy I see. Or Activistion matchmaking patent - that encourages microtransactions.... (Things are heading down hill)Oh yes I forgot about activistion matchmaking good eye man.

Someone did not see the star wars battlefront 2/COD loot boxes system controversy I see.

If they were going to change something during that update, they'd be working on it by now. They'd know they're doing something by now. And they'd be able to say something about it by now. It's 6pm at ANet. They're going home. There is no change coming. They don't have to say it at all though.They sure as hell did not say skritt before this popped up.Could easily quietly fix this and hope to slide it under the rug. Once again, I'm like 85% sure they won't (would say 100% but I rather not Asura myself on this as it could easily be changed as I don't know anything on the whole situation as I don't work for them), but it's better to at least wait and see than anything. The skimmer's handlebars were glitched up to hell and back on the halloween mounts when they 1st came out, and in the last update they fixed it.Yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a bug fix and not even related to a store thing, but the thing is they never really mentioned that they fixed this or not.Well if they wont change it then it's time for me to find another game to play. If this is the future of there skins and how to get them then no ty I will play wow before I concede to this gambling practice. I am curious to see how this pans out. Will anet smarten up and do whats right or will they go down in history as many gaming companies have done and soiled their reputation. There is a saying. When the business is hot you can do no wrong, when the business is cold you can do no right. What it mean's is when things are going good and you have a good reputation you can do no wrong as people will let it slide because you did right for so many years. But when you mess up so much and it starts to stick no matter how many time's you say sorry the people wont care, your business is cold now. Is this the straw that broke the camel's back? Who know's but the rot can set in at any moment even when your on the high train and if you don't stop it when it show's it's ugly head it maybe to late.

Yup. This is a trash bin now. They are not reading this despite what Gaile said. I'm out if they don't say anything by tomorrow. I here you

This burned me so bad on AION (another NCSoft game) that I quit and I don't gamble like that anymore. And considering that the reason I bought this game was to a) support ANet and b) mounts mounts mounts, I'm seriously pissed. I was in LA and people were saying the hole loot boxes RNG is not bad....well it was fun while it lasted gw2 :(

If they don't fix this I will be taking gw2 off my pc and will not pay for the next big DLC they make.

I can't go into LA with out seeing the new mount skins and being frustrated. Some are really good skins and I want them but I wont buy RNG loot boxes to get the skin I want. I wont be playing till this is fixed.