[Hot Take: Boon Strips/Corrupts are not the solution.]

On 4/17/2024 at 9:02 PM, ShadowStep.3640 said:

It feels like everyone wants the amount of strips/corrupts to be buffed way up to previous levels and even surpassing it. But combating boon bloat with massive strips just causes the flow of combat to feel like pendulum which is chaotic and wouldn't feel good. The better solution is to change the ways boons are generated, and primarily, shared to other players in WvW. 

Currently, boons are shared giving both the caster and the recipients the same boon duration. Example: Stand Your Ground gives 5 second Resolution and 6 seconds Stability to both the user and allies. Instead boons should give original duration to the user and half duration to allies. If you grant yourself 10 seconds regeneration, allies gain 5 seconds. You grant 4 seconds protection allies receive 2 seconds. This should obviously only be implemented in WvW as it would ruin PvE. Concentration would still benefit boon duration. 

 

Pros:

-Nerfs boon ball while still allowing for lots of boon generation.

-Makes counterplea easier and gives more value to corrupts and strips as boons are more valuable.

-Doesnt affect roamers/users generating boons. Allows them to still feel full impact of their abilities. 

-Raises skill ceiling of coordinated groups needing instances of stability/other high value boons rather than just vomiting them continuously. 

-Keeps individual player agency while still being able to generate support for allies but not allowing it to be excessive. 

-Encourages players to bring their own survivability in the form of utility skills (more value to bring my own stability vs relying on someone else)

Cons:

-Support players will feel their impact go down

-Players would need to adjust

-Low duration boons would be difficult to share

-Does not touch mechanics like barrier, auras, stealth

-idk maybe others.

This game mode needs diminishing returns on CC for and reduce CCs with removing stability to balance things up. stunlocks should not happen nor access to loads of cc by ONE class.

[Can we get a DEV response?]

11 hours ago, misterman.1530 said:

This will get moved to the WvW forums, but since it appears that DEVs rarely dip a toe into that forum, I figured I would ask here:

Can we please get a DEV response/explanation of the WvW changes foisted upon us? These are NOT good changes.

Nope, they keep promoting brainless gameplay, blob up use your face side to side on the keyboard and see who wins first on the boonballs. And you will get blocked here reported etc for saying they are doing a terrible job in the game mode and dont give 2 craps about players here. 10 years and they just do not care.

[Does this really need to be in the game?]

12 hours ago, Angryjanitor.5940 said:

I get pulled off towers all the time by an animation I can't see by an ability that should require line of sight.  This kitten makes me Alt+f4 the game every single time it happens.

 

 

Heres a tip, assume theres a necro somewhere with GS 5 that will pull you. dodge stealth stability block invuln etc.

[World Restructuring Beta will run from January 12 to February 2!]

Enought of this SH... beta and never to return or implement this is not gonna help wvw if anything ever will. Enough.

[Willbender still needs a nerf [Merged]]

9 hours ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

I appreciate the reply and clarification. I am also not a fan of runaway builds either, it just encourages me to create more counters. Do I think Willie has counters, yes. But I can appreciate your point on risk versus reward in light of your replies. Based on the thread, would I call them BiS? Currently still no but we can agree to disagree there.  Thanks for sharing more details on your view point and I will wish you good hunting!

Glad I managed to clarify my intent and point. Thanks for the clean chat.

[Willbender still needs a nerf [Merged]]

On 1/4/2024 at 7:27 AM, TheGrimm.5624 said:

lol, so are you having issues with old Willie or not? You are saying you are OP on core and on DH, yet you said Willie is OP. Are you asking for general Guard nerfs here? I already made the point above about all of our nerf bats due to the 2020 patch so not going to cover that again. So you want to clarify?

Dude. My opinion is the same since beggining of this thread. I would prefer to solo roam as core and DH but due to everything outperforming these specs myself and most guardians are forced into WB. I like Wb but I like core and dh more. 

[Willbender still needs a nerf [Merged]]

On 1/4/2024 at 7:19 AM, TheGrimm.5624 said:

I don't think I misread your words as you did it again. 'Everyone' thinks its OP. Keep it less of a blanket statement and wouldn't be such of an issue. I enjoy the videos but I dislike how players assume afterwards and the content gives them groupthink issues. As others have stated, and I agree with, the Socratic method is better when approaching issues but these days Groupthink applies more, and with video content people just assume on what's provided. I don't agree there.

Hence my question to you since you have now said that twice. I understand you are also implying other builds might be OP, I get that. You stated yourself in other threads you build toward glass. So is this a glass versus glass issue? Hence why I raise the issue. I appreciate content creators but when its all about takedowns and not other fights, forum posters tend to use those shots as see we need nerfs. That's were I see issues. We all got the 2020 nerf due to too many people not considering their builds and all the glass on glass interactions and we ended up with the great 2020 nerf patch. We can't use glass on glass as balance nor can we use overskilled player versus average players when considering balance. We need apples to apples. I have seen great WBs that will tear players up and I have seen terribad WBs that die in 1 v 5s. If they were dominate though, we would have nothing but them. This is where we disagree. Though personally after these types of posts see more Willies so all the better since it makes killing them all the easier on various builds. 

 

To simplify, imo WB is low risk high reward on almost any gear build used. Too much out of jail free cards with too much burst potential and tools. Basically has litle counters same as the other OP( imo again) classes/builds. No class should be able to junp into the midle of outnumbered 5+ and able to get a kill or more and still run away. Even if all 5 suck. (IMO again)

[Willbender still needs a nerf [Merged]]

On 1/2/2024 at 6:23 AM, XenesisII.1540 said:

youtube.com

I'm not going to research builds for you.

Just because you think you personally can't roam on Core or Dragonhunter or Firebrand doesn't excuse that Willbender needs to be OP, every class has this problem, every class has also had OP specs, and every class has had their OP specs toned down over the years. Willbenders and Harbingers are next in line for a very long time now, it's been almost two years. You can't handle being criticized for playing Willbender, that's your problem, I'm not the only one that thinks they're broken OP. They should have never been given all that mobility with all those defenses and burst potential, period.

Insert your Willbender confused emotes -->

Ok, so please myself and other guardians are waiting on that special builds, if you like you can even see my videos on how OP I am on core and DH at oneshoting (meme builds that do not really work for roam seriously). 

I d say next 24h should be enough for you to show a proper build for core and dh that does not have a video showing beatting people that are terrible and barely move.

[Willbender still needs a nerf [Merged]]

On 1/2/2024 at 7:38 AM, TheGrimm.5624 said:

Hi! Welcome back. Everyone? What is your criteria here, you have my attention. I appreciate we didn't agree on one shots but you have once again made me question, "Everyone". Since you post various videos, which classes and builds are you are having the most issues with against Willies? I played Willie some to see what was what to help my various builds consider it. I have seen both good and bad ones, be that across all classes personally. 

So the issue here is they ran away? Are you asking that all options to run away be nerfed? I admit I am terribad at thief since I agree. If I start a fight I think it needs to finish. That doesn't mean I played smart it means I didn't use the mechanics that were there. That also means when on builds that are meant to target run-aways I will stack options to catch. Willie is the the thief counter build that people have asked for. I disagree they are the be all end all on fast movers though and are death on wheels. I also disagree they dominate roaming. But if you want to build their ego please do since it will mean more to find while roaming on various builds.

Dude you are misreading or misunderstanding, read the whole debate from beggining, I think WB is op yes as everyone but it is OP the same as the other classes also have specs that outperform to the point of near broken, so, ALL of them need nerfing hard.

and this person is complaining more about wb so I was asking, what else do we guardians play as efectively as wb and all the other op broken things or if he just wants guardian players to be reduced to depending on everyone else to hit and run or survive.

[Willbender still needs a nerf [Merged]]

On 12/26/2023 at 6:23 AM, XenesisII.1540 said:

Willbenders have more mobility and defenses than all those classes, while also being able to burst. Mirage had Jaunt, 3 charges 20s cooldown, it was nerfed multiple times to 50% damage, 30s cooldown, and 2 charges in a year. I have yet to see any type of balance like that on Willbender almost two years in.

You play Willbender you get carried, just like everyone cried about Condi Mirage.

/taps watch, we're still waiting on Willbender and Harbinger balance.

You did not reply to what I asked, 

Dont reply and wine about WB and how OP it is again, EVERYONE knows this, just tell me and other guardians the magical build spec/gear for DH or Core that works to be AS effective for solo/roaming in WvW as either core guard or DH with the disengage and survival potential ALMOST on pair with the likes of thiefs mesmers rangers warrior mechanics etc etc??  

[What if I told you there is an actual "I Win" combo in this game that makes it pointless for the target to have a keyboard? 🧪🐤💀]

that doesnt bother me nearly as much as thief or any other CC heavy class spamming cc and adding cooldowns on the already existing cooldowns from the last 5 inturrupts. this could easily be fixed so that at least if you stunbreak the cc you reset the cds instead of also having to wait and probably get cced again.

[Roaming and oneshots Video with WB, DH and core guard]

10 hours ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

So you consider one shot as combos? How many were one skill activations against a target with no debuffs and no prior buffs on your toon? 

Is there a point to this or just to criticize and stating you disagree with the term oneshot as I see fit?

[why isnt willbender nerfed in wvw? ​​]

26 minutes ago, Palikka.8249 said:

I cant take willy qq serious when we have perma-stealth thief, cele harbs, cele renegades and virtuoso. There are so many busted speccs its nightmare to balance.

Preach

[Roaming and oneshots Video with WB, DH and core guard]

2 hours ago, TheGrimm.5624 said:

Mind sharing your definition of one shot? Is it one ability? Or a sequence of actions?

The true one shot in my video are the long bow ones, then there os the core "oneshots" that basically are a combo of 2 burst skills, either focus 5 + GS2 or hammer 2.

[Roaming and oneshots Video with WB, DH and core guard]

2 hours ago, Gotejjeken.1267 said:

Why is the one with the Druid in there--you run in, fail to...do anything really...stay a bit and then run back to zerg...lol.  

Because its to show off how sometimes u fail and try to escape. Most times people just show the success and not failure.

[why isnt willbender nerfed in wvw? ​​]

On 11/14/2023 at 8:17 AM, Sansar.1302 said:

Thief is so op that it ruins all fun in wvw

fixed it

[Roaming and oneshots Video with WB, DH and core guard]

Before nerfing WB nerf thiefs. Enjoy

 

 

[Willbender One Shot montage]

20 hours ago, Kirevey.5079 said:

For the sake of keeping information clear:

• Sword 2 needs a target to teleport.
• Flash Combo's Repose only works if you hit the target with all Flash Combos attack.
• Whirling Light actually does not work like that, even if the tooltip says so, it just extends the AoE range of the skill.
• Judge's Instervention needs a target to teleport.
• Merciful Intervention needs an ally target to teleport.

As for the usual builds people are having trouble with, which is Sword/Sword + Greatsword, in most cases the only port utility they are running will be Judge's Intervention, and the others are gonna be Whirling Light for Damage and Contemplation of Purity for massive cleanse/breakstun. Elite will be Renewed Focus so that they can reset the virtues.

Now imagining an scenario where you are not just getting jumped out of nowhere and you are actually fighting the willy, this to watch out for so people understand better what they are fighting:

• Judge Intervention into Advancing Strike: People need to recognize if they got immobed and cleanse fast so they can dodge the rest of the combo that comes after. people usually follows up with something like Executioner's Calling and a weapon swap to proc Hydro Sigil then do something like Greatsword 2 or  Whirling Light. Executioner's Calling needs to hit the first time to hit the second time (the real damage) and Hydro proc won't hit you on a dodge frame. So, against like 80% of willys that are just button smashers a cleanse + a dodge at the start of the fight will pretty much negate all their initial burst.
• The only Stab that most willys get is the traited Courage from Virtues trait line and is only 3 stacks and last 4s with no boon duration. This means that most of the time the willy is very weak against CC. Also, Courage becomes a stun break if traited, so if you can manage to make them use it for a stun break, you have a huge advantage.
• If the willy is running Reversal of Fortune (2 charges, negate next attack and heal double if attacked during channel) then watch for the buff they get on and try to not attack them. The base heal is like 2k health, if hit is 4k.
• If the willy is running Litany of Wrath (dmg transformed to heal) watch for that buff too and try to manage accordingly.
• Most willys want to fight in melee. That usually means that dropping stuff at your feet will help a lot in dealing with them.
• If they are running heavy damage, that also means they are running way less blocks. 
• Learn to deal with Blind, it will come from F1, Sword 2 and GS 3. A lot of people just use big CDs when they have blind and miss an opportunity, usually just spamming an extra auto attack will get rid of that for you.
• If you are roaming, you usually should bring (and every class has) stuff that would help you in any kind of fight. You always want to have more stun breaks, some form of condi clear, and access to protection. Energy sigil for an extra dodge is a must at this point in the game for a lot of classes.
• Willy is very melee, try to keep some distance and adapt your builds if you are having too much trouble with it. A lot of complains I get come on the form of "Why can't I kill this guy on the build I'm running?" In WvW if you see that you are fighting the same guy many times and losing, you should adapt a bit.

Now, for the actual things that need balance in my opinion:

• Crashing Courage should do no damage if traited with Indomitable Courage. With that trait the skill is way too powerful (high damage, shadow step, break stun, stab, and the extra effect from the active)
• Righteous Instincts: This is not too bad on power willys, but if you start adding boon duration, people can easly keep 10+ stacks of might. (cele bros)
• Absolute Resolve: this trait when playing willy makes the skill too overloaded. Flowing resolve then can cleanse 5 condis in 1 button (2 from trait + immob, chill, and cripple from the virtue). I feel like if running the trait with willy, Resolve should have only 1 charge.
• Advancing Strike should not have a slow.
• Power Scaling for F1 (Rushing Justice) should be brought down a little.
• Hydro Sigil is kinda busted. For me, is an average 4-5k AoE proc every time and that is not even with full might.

As a general note, the problem with balancing Willy specifically is that Radiance and Virtues traitlines just make the low cooldown virtues be too overloaded, but is difficult to balance those traits withouth killing them for other elite specs. 

Also, one of the main problems with the game in general is overload. Too many things traited or not can do too much stuff with the press of 1 button. Every time that some trait adds something to a skill it should also make it lose something. It should change how it works, more than just adding stuff to it.

I'm prolly missing a lot of stuff, but I think the actual "willy problem" is 2 parts: a lot of people don't know how to approach the fight against them, and there is a couple of skills that do too much.

 

heres the thing, if these nerfs happen then thiefs all other classes with same level of skill required for same result need nerfing too. if no willbender what guardians have to successfully roam smallscale and not be shutdown?? I try with core and DH as dps option and its just a matte rof time till cooldowns kill me. 

[Willbender One Shot montage]

On 11/24/2023 at 1:34 PM, RaveOnYou.2819 said:

willbender high reward low risk class. they have too much runaway options, leaps, blocks, invuls, boons. ie. thief is balanced in my opinion since it has only stealth.

Funniest post ever, thief the king of smallscalle roaming 1vs1 since launch. Same level of skill players against one another and the one playing thief will have the upper hand always, against some classes more than others but overall all thiefs specs/profession is near equal in success while guardian has only wb for roaming /smallscale  successfully since launch. DH was ok when launched but then the cries of thiefs made the nerf hammer rain down on them untill unseen in wvw almost completly for years.

[Willbender One Shot montage]

On 11/22/2023 at 1:24 AM, Junkpile.7439 said:

I don't like these builds that can fight back if one shot fails. Real manly one shot builds have only one trick.

My latest example. this is more one shot with either pass/fail chance.

 

[WvW willbender]

On 11/16/2023 at 5:51 PM, Axelteas.7192 said:

Please nerf WB soon, this is becoming unplayable as thief

this must be a joke.

[Boonstrips]

On 10/28/2023 at 6:51 PM, XenesisII.1540 said:

Hey to the guys who were suggesting changes to concentration...

• Relic of the Herald: This relic now also grants its bonus when applying boons to yourself. Increased the concentration per stack from 15 to 25. This relic no longer has an internal cooldown.

You see Anet listens! Enjoy! LMAO! 🤭

• Null Field: Increased the cooldown from 35 seconds to 45 seconds in WvW only.
• Phantasmal Disenchanter: Reduced the number of boons removed from 2 to 1 in WvW only.

Oh hey Anet, save everyone some time, Just remove boon strips entirely next patch thanks. 🤷‍♂️

They do need to nerf the dps / survival oriented mesmer elites all together tho, that class abuses in every single way smallscale and roaming and solo, its beyond broken.

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Just now, albertalbertson.4217 said:

Bruh, come on. They have less than a few hours downtime in 10 years. I think you'll be fine.

An they have 10 years of failing to solve imbalances and meme stuff/builds in game. If they respected players would be fine.

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Same, thanks anet, love these updates that waste my free time.

[We Need NEW CONTENT in WvW, not new match making systems]

Alpine border lands are way too old and outdated, same thing afte 10years, desert is not as fun for people who are lazy, altho i would agree to closer spawn points in order to get into fights a bit more quickly,that being said it is the best looking and diverse map of all.