Also wvw is competitive if you don't like it get lost. Don't pander to the needs of the minority of crap players that get a meta pve builds but refuse to I'm wvw then cry when they suck at it. Tell you what... Give me access to your database on player time, I'll give you a report of top wvw play time and if they lead a squad then I'll send u a list of wvw actual players that you can discuss this with and not turn this into another pve fest.... God damn anet you really know how to piss off the wvw core lmao