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  1. In my opinion, the simplest and cheapest solution for crafting exotic level gear with selectable characteristics is crafting this thing: lunatic gossamer insignia. Well, all related recipes can be bought from merchants during the Halloween event. The main thing is to spend the resources gained during the events on the purchase of crafting recipes in the first place, they will be useful to you for the future
  2. There was not talking about localization, and the addition of support for the Cyrillic alphabet. Chat will not only Russian, but also other communities whose native alphabet based on the Cyrillic alphabet.Anemone wasn't talking about localization, but also about alphabet - greek has its own, if you didn't know. That is the core of the problem, i guess - once you add one, you have to add all of them. Not just Cyrillic. And the often brought up case of the Polish language? That was almost certainly simply a sideeffect of adding german diacritic support. I'm pretty sure that wasn't intended at all (i doubt Polish comunity is big enough to even be considered for that), and i'm quite certain that Anet doesn't really want players talking in any language other than officially supported (and moderated). Not strongly enough to actually forbid or actively hinder it, but just enough to not want to offer any help to players doing it on their own. You won;t get them to tell it to you outright, though, because saying it in the open would be bad PR. Bulgarians, Macedonians, Serbs, Croats and Montenegrins use the Cyrillic alphabet.And? I don't see how that has anything to do with what i said, much less actually counter anything i mentioned.Hmm ... I just supplemented your comment and did not refute.
  3. You would have to be extremely carefull saying this as its a very important thing in Greece to not say this wrong. North Macedonia (former Fyrom) uses the Cyrillic alphabet. Macedonia is a region in Greece which has nothing to do with North Macedonia and Greece does not use a Cyrillic alphabet either. You don't want to offend anyone by calling the countries and its citizens wrong. Naturally, I'm not going to offend anyone. I do not have the opportunity to know the mentality of each ethnic group, so do not rephrase or give a negative meaning to my words. The essence of my words is quite simple, it is that the Cyrillic alphabet is used not only in Russia. Here I tried to list the peoples of Europe. I did not include here the countries and peoples of the CIS, which you probably have not even heard of..
  4. Well its not only that, they will have to have support persons that read Cyrillic.Incase of people asking for help or reporting abuse, so yes it will cost more money if they add it. No, they wouldn't. They are only asking for the option to write in Cyrillic alphabet in game with their friends. All support interactions and in-game text will stay the same. So, when someone reports a player that is being abusive in chat, what then? Cyrillic users get free reign? :) I think here is the solution to your phobia of Russian insults https://imgur.com/RG4OpUY This is not a solution and you know that. A solution would be a “hide Russian” because if you play in Germany for example you have “show only German” but like most of people in (western) Europe we can also communicate in English and some also in French. So show only German would not be good.And your nonsense about phobia of Russian is stupid and propaganda. yes, here you are right, I went into the game and checked the chat settings for the German language. In this case, the solution to this problem would be the option to "show only Latin." But your expression "hide Russian" sounds russophobic.P.S. I didn't know that the settings for other languages would be similar to English. To you, dear yoni.7015 personal question: what I'm advocating? I don't get it here. and please don't call me "stupid" anymore.
  5. The fact that I am the largest blogger in Russia for this game suggests that I appeal not only on my behalf, but I represent the interests of the whole community.Most of the big bloggers and streamers think that way. That doesnt make it true.Hint: it wouldn't be surprising if there were more people thinking they represent the russian community (in fact, i am 99% sure thare are others). And i am sure that all those people can't really agree on what those interests are. @Drevin.5392 said: There was not talking about localization, and the addition of support for the Cyrillic alphabet. Chat will not only Russian, but also other communities whose native alphabet based on the Cyrillic alphabet.Anemone wasn't talking about localization, but also about alphabet - greek has its own, if you didn't know. That is the core of the problem, i guess - once you add one, you have to add all of them. Not just Cyrillic. And the often brought up case of the Polish language? That was almost certainly simply a sideeffect of adding german diacritic support. I'm pretty sure that wasn't intended at all (i doubt Polish comunity is big enough to even be considered for that), and i'm quite certain that Anet doesn't really want players talking in any langage other than officially supported (and moderated). Not strongly enough to actually forbid or actively hinder it, but just enough to not want to offer any help to players doing it on their own. You won;t get them to tell it to you outright, though, because saying it in the open would be bad PR.Bulgarians, Macedonians, Serbs, Croats and Montenegrins use the Cyrillic alphabet.
  6. Well its not only that, they will have to have support persons that read Cyrillic.Incase of people asking for help or reporting abuse, so yes it will cost more money if they add it. No, they wouldn't. They are only asking for the option to write in Cyrillic alphabet in game with their friends. All support interactions and in-game text will stay the same. So, when someone reports a player that is being abusive in chat, what then? Cyrillic users get free reign? :) I think here is the solution to your phobia of Russian insults https://imgur.com/RG4OpUY
  7. There was not talking about localization, and the addition of support for the Cyrillic alphabet. Chat will not only Russian, but also other communities whose native alphabet based on the Cyrillic alphabet.
  8. yoni.7015, do not confuse, speak English and write in Cyrillic. The big difference between Cyrillic and Latin. The Latin alphabet is not suitable for writing in Russian, since twice as many letters are required. My case is far from infrequent. People have different levels of language training and pedagogues are different.In a nearby branch, the Italians asked for localization and you will say that in Italy, is there a problem with the English language? Well, let's say otherwise. So, you speak English, would you be comfortable playing a game where everything is in German and even chatting is only necessary in German?You ask, English is in the game, but they answer you - learn German. I would most likely play something I understand, but you guys seem diffrent since you all have played gw2 without your language in a time span bettwen 7 years and 1 day.EditDo you also go into a pizza place complaining that they dont sell traditional russian food aswell? no, but I can ask the cook to add some Russian ingredient to pizza) How many pizza places store russian ingredients to put on the pizza? :) Im more curious what these ingredients are that we dont have in the rest of the world.this is a metaphor. I answered by comparison to comparison. but if you want, I will explain what I meant. The cook is arena.net, pizza is gw2, the Russian ingredient is our request for the addition of the Cyrillic alphabet. but if you want to talk about cooking ... do you add pickles to the filling? no, not marinated. exactly salted? do you add a few grams of vodka to the pizza dough? Believe me, it will become more magnificent and softer. and a little about marketing. and if you are an American businessman and set up a pizzeria in Brooklyn, on Brighton Beach? because many Slavs live there. why don't I go meet customers?
  9. yoni.7015, do not confuse, speak English and write in Cyrillic. The big difference between Cyrillic and Latin. The Latin alphabet is not suitable for writing in Russian, since twice as many letters are required. My case is far from infrequent. People have different levels of language training and pedagogues are different.In a nearby branch, the Italians asked for localization and you will say that in Italy, is there a problem with the English language? Well, let's say otherwise. So, you speak English, would you be comfortable playing a game where everything is in German and even chatting is only necessary in German?You ask, English is in the game, but they answer you - learn German. I would most likely play something I understand, but you guys seem diffrent since you all have played gw2 without your language in a time span bettwen 7 years and 1 day.EditDo you also go into a pizza place complaining that they dont sell traditional russian food aswell?no, but I can ask the cook to add some Russian ingredient to pizza)
  10. Well there is no problem if I dont understand it aslong as you and your friends do. why then do you talk about communication on transliteration? if you don’t understand?
  11. tā它zài在shī zǐ獅子de的gǒng mén拱門shàng上 This is an example of Chinese transliteration. feel the difference? no? maybe you are not Chinese. also with Russian transliteration, you are not able to understand, because you are not Russian.
  12. Yes, there is often justified arena.net silence that is not economically viable. Add support for the Cyrillic alphabet. Very hard to justify, if this is the reason. But I do not think so) In one of the posts of someone calculated the approximate cost of the work required. And we agreed to donate this amount. Still no answer. It's not in the finance and economic benefits. Then something is wrong ... And enough about Discord! We know what it is. You offer the following: let's say I want to answer the question, the player in the game, who wrote to me in the chat. In response, I print it: Bro, here is the link - an invitation to my Discord, come in and there I will answer you! Well, it's ridiculous, agree. To communicate through Discord need to agree in advance, or spam ads chatting - "follow the link, I'll answer all your questions, you can install the program on the link ...!" And what about the spontaneous meetings? Discord is not the way out here.
  13. Oh ... there is still debate continues) I want to tell you about their thoughts on the above (one particular do not mean just a quote from there, here a quote ...)I love the English language, I love and study it for the few independently (by the method of Pimsleur and so forth.). But my knowledge is not yet sufficient to freely and easily communicate, so use a mechanical translator. And I try to articulate thoughts just choose my words to the translation of the meaning is not lost what I have said.• It seems to me that the community, whatever it may be, large or small, has the right to live. 40 000 people who signed the petition - I do not think this is an exhaustive figure. I think we have a lot more. And these 40,000 people is not a crowd of young people with unstable mentality and mature people who give an account of their actions (more or less). And to explain it simply. The very model of the game Payment (Buy to Play) explains it, because we have in Russia is not everyone can afford to buy this game. And also, a factor which eliminates frivolous, lazy players, this language barrier. Yes, the game is in English, and localization in the Russian language will not be, we know it! And this is good, it spurs to learn English.• I admit the possibility that the addition of the Cyrillic alphabet in the chat a little worsen the communication with other players. Just a little, I do not take into consider. But I see the chat messages in German, Spanish, French. I see the announcement for admission to the guild in Polish and other languages, which I could not identify. People communicate in their own language, to find his countrymen. Here are the lucky ones, I guess. But they all have an alphabet based on the Latin script and do not experience any problems with this. One day I saw an advertisement for the set in the Russian-speaking guild and it was written in transliteration, the message is very easy to miss and do not give it a value, as it is not immediately clear what kind of language is this)))• I was in a huge amount of a variety of groups to communicate in their native language. I do not understand German, French, Spanish, but the question in English, in such groups I answered in English. And this is good. It is an international language, which aims to facilitate mutual understanding of each other. I'm not against. And if suddenly the game will add the ability to communicate in the Cyrillic alphabet, the group consisting of Russian-speaking players, there is someone who asked to answer in English for English This is my vision of the future. This in fact possible?• All unwilling to see the Cyrillic alphabet in the chat will be sufficient to choose the menu option 'Show only English "I think this option is already chatting. Correct me if I'm wrong• About the abuse and did not understand them if they are expressed in Russian ... Seriously? If you are a mature and independent person, what difference there shouting this bully, this upstart? Do not pay attention, maybe he's not talking to you!• I recently came to a head one guess. About Arena.net silence towards our community. Yes, I know about the events within the company and a difficult period. I know about the care of some important people in the company. I understand. I do not understand why there is no answer? It only takes 5 minutes. It's easy, just say, "yes, there is Cyrillic" or not, is not the Cyrillic alphabet, and do not dream "Others answer we also arrange!. What's the matter? In international politics and stereotypes about the Russian? I do not think management should be apolitical and loyal to the players of different nationalities and point. And here's my guess: it is in the business model of the game? Buy to Play? Arena net not important community, it is important only to the number of sold copies of the game and quarterly financial reports? Let's say I bought the game, the developers have thanked me for the support and all the ... more I do not wonder. Sorrowfully.• • My conjecture can be verified. I played in the Free to Play projects, I played in Pay to Play projects, the majority are located in my native language, and almost everyone has a Cyrillic chatting! Teso, Wow, Terra, Black desert, and so forth.• P.S my thesis can be fragmented and do not follow each other, but I think you get my point. Good luck to all! See you at the expanse of Tyria.
  14. Of course, but Arenanet can take action easily since English is the language of the company and every employee of the company is able to speak it. So, overall you don't need specific personnel for that. You don't understand. It won't matter to me. That's a difference. A russian player would be able to insult me and I just wouldn't care because - as you have pointed out correctly - I don't understand his expressions. Maybe I would block him if he's spamming but that would be a different thing and not the main problem here.The thing is: What is Arenanet doing if that player insults his own community, so to speak members that communicate(d) with him in russian language and he is getting very abusive? Therefore you should need support because otherwise this player will harm the game experience of other russian speaking players.Inb4: "But he could do that now with latin letters as well." - I'm aware of that and I'm sure Arenanet as well but why open another Pandora's box if things are working without it. It's not that the russian speaking community isn't able to communicate in English as almost everyone in this world is doing nowadays when affected with globalization. :) We all have freedom of speech (as some people like to say here). This is called democracy. We have the right to ask for the addition of Cyrillic in the chat. At least because the official game purchase page for the Russian community is made in ... guess what language? Someone in this thread against our appeal? Explain the reason sincerely please. and don't be afraid to get a warning.
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