Elixir E

does it give really a barrier???because i never see it in the combat log! as instead see corona burst barrier as other barriers incoming....

ANet traded us 3 seconds of invulnerability for 3k barrier and 3s protection. 3k barrier is in most scenarios 1-2 autoattacks (even with protection). This trait should at the very least get a stun break, and either keep the barrier and lower the CD, or give 200% more barrier.

i think it doesnt give any barrier! corona burst is shown in log when it gives a barrier, as when i get a scourge barrier, as using scrapper traits that gives barrier....elixir E as wrote in the thread, doesn't give a barrier.... how much it lasts we all know in wvw or pvp....

It does give the barrier (in WVW). "You grant yourself barrier for 3275 using [Elixir E]" it says.Maybe the log is not the most reliable source ? I dont know if it registers everything all the time.

@santenal.1054 said:I dont know if it registers everything all the time.

It doesn't. There are plenty of things which aren't shown in the log.

sure that log doesn't register everything everything.i still have doubts if this barrier is applied.

sure 100% it triggers when hgh is traited and it is shown in the combat log....did someone tested it with purity of purpose or iron blooded?regards

Absolutely ridiculous. It's the same as when they nerfed Dragonhunter traps. It went from 1/2sec Stun to Slow... I would have atleast tried changing it to 'interrupts on activation' with some cooldown of when they can be interrupted again, before reducing it even to Slow. In this case we go from THREE seconds of Invul to 3k Barrier?! Like even HALF a second of invul would be a significant nerf. Or increase the recharge time, or change both the Elixer S skill and the trait to 1 second invul. There are so many things they could have done, but no, nerf it to oblivion.

They could at least make it give the maximum barrier possible. Would still be a nerf from invuln, but at least it would be enough to have some effect. You would still be vulnerable to control effects which was the main reason why the invuln was so powerful. 3K barrier is nothing. There literally isnt any good options in master tier alchemy, even the adept traits are objectively better now.

It's a bit undertuned, but does help you live about 1 second longer...

This latest nerf to Alchemy was the last straw: actually stopped running alchemy entirely. Asside from HGH it really isn't all that useful anymore. As a P/P condie engie who likes zerg fights (yes I'm a masochist) it just means I have to be even further out at the fringes of combat clearing out downs. Anet is definitely showing a lot of Holo tunnel vision when it comes to balancing the engineer.

To be fair, sometimes you get hit so hard that the 3k barrier that you don't even notice that the barrier was there. I can confirm that it appears just stick to 1v1s and you might, depending on how hard you get hit, be able to notice it.

they could put Elixir E as two traits of two other classes:

warrior : Defy Pain Cast Lesser Endure Pain when struck while below the health threshold. Health Threshold: 50% 4s and it breaks stun.

ranger: Stoneform - cast lesser stone You and your pet take no damage from attacks. You and your pet are still susceptible to conditions and control effects.(5s): Take no damage from incoming attacks when under 50% health.

in both case most important THEY DON'T GET DIRECT DAMAGE!!!

Or they could make Backpack Regenerator good. You know, so you have a choice.

@LilBiM.3581 said:Or they could make Backpack Regenerator good. You know, so you have a choice.

Make backpack regenerator good, and make PF trait off kit traits, not toolbelt traits.

I think that it's fine that PF (Photon Forge) is on the elite toolbelt and not another kit. Let's try to stay focused here however and make E either clear movement impairing conditions such as immob, chill and cripple OR debilitating conditions such as weakness, poison and chill OR restore endurance.

As for Backpack Regenerator, it's a Major Trait that competes with Comeback Cure and it simply needs to offer more. Perhaps it should do what it currently does and offer a temporary buff of 250 healing power for 6 seconds, 6 sec ICD OR also when you get Vigor you also gain Regeneration for 3 seconds.

Just checked, it does give a 3k hp barrier.

However, Elixir E is not affected by the -20% cooldown from HGH, which is clearly a bug and needs fixing asap.