What this guy wants is in another game, it’s called “Ahead of the curve”. You get an achievement in wow for beating a raid before the standard nerfing of it like 6 months down the road. No, we do not need this kind of thing in Guild Wars, you have your turtle and you know you did it the harder way, that should be enough. There are many other difficult titles you can earn that will garner the respect you are so desperate to attain, I suggest getting one of those.